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[randyhersom]

Timings and a quick compare lead me to ID 2 as The Barbara Song composed by Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill.

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If six was nine ... well it is.

 

Edited November 3 by randyhersom

[Dan Gould]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

 

There ta'go. Now to find the album this version is on?

 

I'm not that concerned unless it's something with a lot of orphan tracks that don't exist elsewhere.

[randyhersom]

Also track 4 on Black Forrest

[JSngry]

18 minutes ago, randyhersom said:

Also track 4 on Black Forrest

There ya go! As good as the first-releawd takes. Mostly just balance issues ( like this one) and raggy heads that got them shelved 

It's a most worthy addition imo 

2 hours ago, randyhersom said:

Timings and a quick compare lead me to ID 2 as The Barbara Song composed by Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill.

 

From The Threepenny Opera, that's it! But there's one notable party not yet named...

[randyhersom]

On 2, Wayne Shorter does solo on tenor eventually.

Edited November 4 by randyhersom

[JSngry]

Exactly! One of his most ephemeral solos, perhaps the most. It is almost inaudible when it ends, dissipating into the mist even more slowly than it enters it.

[randyhersom]

9 is Helena, the last track (#8) from El Chico.  Chico and Gabor, but no Dolphy

[JSngry]

50 minutes ago, randyhersom said:

9 is Helena, the last track (#8) from El Chico.  Chico and Gabor, but no Dolphy

Correct again!

The flutist may come a surprise to some, but the bassist shouldn't.

[B. Clugston]

Track 4 is from André Jolivet’s Pastorales de Noël. Nice post-Debussy vibe. I have no idea who is playing but my wild guess is it’s members of Ornette Coleman’s one-time backup band, the Philadelphia Wind Quintet, plus Marilyn Costello on harp. 

[JSngry]

2 hours ago, B. Clugston said:

Track 4 is from André Jolivet’s Pastorales de Noël. Nice post-Debussy vibe. I have no idea who is playing but my wild guess is it’s members of Ornette Coleman’s one-time backup band, the Philadelphia Wind Quintet, plus Marilyn Costello on harp. 

Right on all counts!

[tkeith]

track 01 - Can't make out what's being said, here.  Connected to speakers, too.

track 02 - Well, certainly sounds like Gil Evans writing, but not sure what it is.  Guy's writing is always interesting.  Probably doesn't hurt that he always works with killin' musicians, either.  Case in point, that certainly sounds like Wayne Shorter.  I know two things:  1) I don't have this, 2) I need this.  4.5/5

track 03 - My first thought was Heinz Sauer on tenor, but it's not him -- cleaner sound.  Definitely someone with that European influence.  Maybe Sean Bergin?  No confidence in that guess.  Phrasing has Shepp's influence at times (hence the Sauer connection).  Not sure how often I'd dig this out, but in the right mood, this is excellent.  Non-standard instrumentation.  Getting a slight Frank Carlberg vibe from the piano, but this pianist is more melodic.  This works. 4/5

track 04 - This one is it bit too programatic for my taste.  Interesting composition, stellar musicianship, but not hitting me in the feels. 2.5/5

track 05 - Odd composition.  Durge-y, quirky, but also musical.  Horn arrangement is pretty straight ahead, but dense.  I don't want to say Gil, again, but what else could it be?  I don't know this.  At 2:45, that line the horns are playing teases Mingus, but SCREAMS Gil.  If I had any guts, I'd make the claim, but I'm struggling to commit.  I mean, if it's Gil, it's likely a band with Knepper, Rehak and company, so... would explain why it works.  3.5/5

track 06 - Brash tenor.  Cookin'.  Sounds like Jimmy Forrest to me... a LOT.  I'd give time off my life to be able to play like that.  Fearless.  A-HA!  At 2:40, there's a tell -- that's Grant Green, for sure.  Ah!  Okay, this is in my stacks.  Forgot about the drummer (shame on me!).  It's track A4 from this. 4/5

track 07 - A little clavé.  No idea who it is, but I really like this.  Drawing full blanks on the tenor.  My guess is these guys are from the 60s.  The feel is all there.  I'm not getting clear pings on who they are, but that pianist could fit easily into one of Bobby Hutcherson's bands (and probably has).  Hand drums feel a bit stiff, but I bet this band caused a little shake in person.  Got to see Tito once, and man, am I ever glad I did.  That music needs to be EXPERIENCED! 4/5

track 08 - I'm sensing a trend!  (just call me Deanna Troi).  Live (boot?).  Has the feel of somebody like Hal Springer.  Pianist has very deliberate phrasing.  Makes me wonder if this is a newer recording.  McCoyisms in the piano, but also some Kenny Barron influence.  Mayhaps a student of the latter?  HEAVY McCoy influence.  So, an alto (sound was so bad, couldn't be sure on the head).  Only guy I've heard approximate that Blakey-shuffle convincingly was Ralph Peterson.  Could be him.  Alto isn't ringing any definitive bells for me, but is for real.  Not Garrett -- more individual to my ear (and less beholden to Trane).  Guy is completely putting out there, though.  Certainly a post-Coltrane guy, but getting the utmost out of that.  4/5

track 09 - There's a giant hole in my collection to be filled by stuff like this.  I don't have enough stuff with flute lead.  This is authentic, so it's Latinx musicians doing there thing.  I'm woefully unversed in the genre, though.  Very tight band, the hits really work.  4/5

track 10 - Wow.  Brutish tenor.  Almost sounds like Sonny Criss might sound on tenor.  Got that little lilt in his phrasing like Sonny.  Am I crazy or do I actually know this tune?  Something mighty familiar about that line.  Man!  This is KILLIN'!  5/5

Two things not a surprise:  1) A lot here I don't know, and 2) A lot here worth listening to.  Well played, sir... well played.

[JSngry]

3 hours ago, tkeith said:

track 01 - Can't make out what's being said, here.  Connected to speakers, too.

Cigarette? Nah, you're young enough to not do that. Good choice!

track 02 - Well, certainly sounds like Gil Evans writing, but not sure what it is.  Guy's writing is always interesting.  Probably doesn't hurt that he always works with killin' musicians, either.  Case in point, that certainly sounds like Wayne Shorter.  I know two things:  1) I don't have this, 2) I need this.  4.5/5

I'm a bit surprised that you don't have this, but since you don't, yes, it is Gil (and Wayne,) and yes, you need this!

track 03 - My first thought was Heinz Sauer on tenor, but it's not him -- cleaner sound.  Definitely someone with that European influence.  Maybe Sean Bergin?  No confidence in that guess.  Phrasing has Shepp's influence at times (hence the Sauer connection).  Not sure how often I'd dig this out, but in the right mood, this is excellent.  Non-standard instrumentation.  Getting a slight Frank Carlberg vibe from the piano, but this pianist is more melodic.  This works. 4/5

Not any of those people, but an interesting reaction, nevertheless. You can read up-thread who this is and when it's from. I think that alone makes it interesting, I think a lot of people make generalizations about the leader based on their work up to  a certain point. But a LOT came after that point, such as this.

track 04 - This one is it bit too programatic for my taste.  Interesting composition, stellar musicianship, but not hitting me in the feels. 2.5/5

It's not jazz, if that matters.

track 05 - Odd composition.  Durge-y, quirky, but also musical.  Horn arrangement is pretty straight ahead, but dense.  I don't want to say Gil, again, but what else could it be?  I don't know this.  At 2:45, that line the horns are playing teases Mingus, but SCREAMS Gil.  If I had any guts, I'd make the claim, but I'm struggling to commit.  I mean, if it's Gil, it's likely a band with Knepper, Rehak and company, so... would explain why it works.  3.5/5

You are at once so right - and yet so wrong!!!!

track 06 - Brash tenor.  Cookin'.  Sounds like Jimmy Forrest to me... a LOT.  I'd give time off my life to be able to play like that.  Fearless.  A-HA!  At 2:40, there's a tell -- that's Grant Green, for sure.  Ah!  Okay, this is in my stacks.  Forgot about the drummer (shame on me!).  It's track A4 from this. 4/5

No hammer needed for you - you done got it nailed!!!

track 07 - A little clavé.  No idea who it is, but I really like this.  Drawing full blanks on the tenor.  My guess is these guys are from the 60s.  The feel is all there.  I'm not getting clear pings on who they are, but that pianist could fit easily into one of Bobby Hutcherson's bands (and probably has).  Hand drums feel a bit stiff, but I bet this band caused a little shake in person.  Got to see Tito once, and man, am I ever glad I did.  That music needs to be EXPERIENCED! 4/5

Definitely from the 60s, and the pianist did play on a Bobby record. Congero is the leader! Horns are not totally unknown and have been on some Blu Note records - but...yeah, pretty much unknown to most.

track 08 - I'm sensing a trend!  (just call me Deanna Troi).  Live (boot?).  Has the feel of somebody like Hal Springer.  Pianist has very deliberate phrasing.  Makes me wonder if this is a newer recording.  McCoyisms in the piano, but also some Kenny Barron influence.  Mayhaps a student of the latter?  HEAVY McCoy influence.  So, an alto (sound was so bad, couldn't be sure on the head).  Only guy I've heard approximate that Blakey-shuffle convincingly was Ralph Peterson.  Could be him.  Alto isn't ringing any definitive bells for me, but is for real.  Not Garrett -- more individual to my ear (and less beholden to Trane).  Guy is completely putting out there, though.  Certainly a post-Coltrane guy, but getting the utmost out of that.  4/5

Your IDs are all wrong, but your impressions are all solid! This one is theoretically identifiable, but only if you know one of the names of one or two of the players.

track 09 - There's a giant hole in my collection to be filled by stuff like this.  I don't have enough stuff with flute lead.  This is authentic, so it's Latinx musicians doing there thing.  I'm woefully unversed in the genre, though.  Very tight band, the hits really work.  4/5

There are some Latin players on here. But there's more non-Latin ones (and some names you'll know). But it groove like fuck either way, eh?

track 10 - Wow.  Brutish tenor.  Almost sounds like Sonny Criss might sound on tenor.  Got that little lilt in his phrasing like Sonny.  Am I crazy or do I actually know this tune?  Something mighty familiar about that line.  Man!  This is KILLIN'!  5/5

You're asking two seprate questions, neither of which I can answer  Really not expecting any IDs on this one either, but that's not really the object of any BFTs of mine, not nearly as much as is giving some reactions about the music(s), and that you have done spendidly.

Two things not a surprise:  1) A lot here I don't know, and 2) A lot here worth listening to.  Well played, sir... well played.

You will know it all soon enough. And most of it is readily available for streaming or for actual purchasing!

And again - very acute and sensitive responses, even when not getting the specific IDs. Well heard, sir!