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Monk/Coltrane vs Bird/Diz

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  1. 1. Which one describes you?

    • I think the Monk-Coltrane is the more significant find, and I like it the most.
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    • I think Bird-Diz is the more significant find, and I like it the most.
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    • I think Monk-Coltrane is the more significant find, but I like the Bird/Diz the most.
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    • I think the Bird-Diz is the more significant find, but I like the Monk-Coltrane the most.
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Should we have an option for "I don't care either way?" I can't choose...

That being said, there was something really "fairytale" exciting about the Bird/Diz set... it didn't hurt that the Uptown release was a more grassroots project, goaded forward by the mutual enthusiasm of hardcore jazzbos. The Monk/Coltrane release just didn't have that--the whole project seems rife with marketing design and timely, self-propelled buzz. This doesn't affect the music of course... but the Uptown release was a fan baby. Just a little more fun--and inspiring, I guess.

That being said, I'm a sucker for Monktrane, so...

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BTW, what is this fund drive Dan and GOM are doing.  Haven't been on the board too much lately so I may have missed something.

We're collecting money for stressed-out Bosox and Yankee fans in need of psychological and "recreational" counseling. :cool:

Actually, my NPR station is gearing up for fund-drive, and our jazz director is trying to choose between the two for our premium "thank-you gift." That's why I was intrigued by this thread.

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This feels like Sophie's Choice. I can't pick between the two.

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I've got to admit, I've been listening to the Monk/Coltrane more often lately.

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So any guesses as to which will be "reissue of the year" in various polls?

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So any guesses as to which will be "reissue of the year" in various polls?

Neither one is really a re-issue.

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We could call each, perhaps, a finally-issue.

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So any guesses as to which will be "reissue of the year" in various polls?

Neither one is really a re-issue.

OK

So which do you think will get the most "cd of the year" votes?

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My guess would be the Monk/Trane would stand a better chance, just because of the major label hype machine.

My personal feeling is that the Bird/Diz is more 'important', but I've been enjoying the Monk/Trane a lot. But then on the other hand... :P

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I am not buying either one so I don't have to make any more critical judgements. :w

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If there was a recording of Monk at age 16 playing "'Round Midnight" one could say it was as significant as the Dizzy Gillespie Quintet with Charlie Parker at Town Hall discovery. Without question the Bird and Diz IS the record of the year. And the Monk Quartet with Trane at Carnegie Hall is a close second. What a great year (for Beethoven, too).

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I am not buying either one so I don't have to make any more critical judgements. :w

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It's a tie, no vote from my side. I like both a lot. Do we need a ranking for everything?! -_-

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If there was a recording of Monk at age 16 playing "'Round Midnight" one could say it was as significant as the Dizzy Gillespie Quintet with Charlie Parker at Town Hall discovery.

Damn! On that acetate I picked up at a yard sale, he's only 15. :angry:

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It's a tie, no vote from my side. I like both a lot. Do we need a ranking for everything?!  -_-

That's the 9th silliest question I've seen on this thread! :P

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If there was a recording of Monk at age 16 playing "'Round Midnight" one could say it was as significant as the Dizzy Gillespie Quintet with Charlie Parker at Town Hall discovery. Without question the Bird and Diz IS the record of the year. And the Monk Quartet with Trane at Carnegie Hall is a close second. What a great year (for Beethoven, too).

Indeed. But I'm still waiting those lost manuscripts of the completed 10th, 11th, and 12th symphonies to be uncovered.

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It's a tie, no vote from my side. I like both a lot. Do we need a ranking for everything?!  -_-

That's the 9th silliest question I've seen on this thread! :P

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If there was a recording of Monk at age 16 playing "'Round Midnight" one could say it was as significant as the Dizzy Gillespie Quintet with Charlie Parker at Town Hall discovery. Without question the Bird and Diz IS the record of the year. And the Monk Quartet with Trane at Carnegie Hall is a close second. What a great year (for Beethoven, too).

Maybe not so "significant" but this was a pretty nice discovery/surprise:

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Bird and Dizz were definately more important to the creation of bebop. First of all, Trane wasn't with Monk that long, compared to how long Bird and Dizzy were together. But I love that Carnegie Hall concert. I think if Bird lived longer, he would of made some better quality recordings with the advance of recording technology, and I would like their stuff more than Monk and Trane's recordings.

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I've been listening to both of them a lot recently and though I think the Bird/Diz is of more importance historically I find myself looking forward to re-hearing the Monk/Coltrane even more.

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