Vincent, Paris

BYG Actuel Series

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Does anybody know why the Jimmy Lyons title never made to CD? Is his estate in good control of his material? I think Lyons and Cecil Taylor might be my favorite new artistic-taste experience since I got back into jazz listening in '99 with the help of Miles and Mingus.

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I don't think that's one of the LP reissues either. Strange. Oh well, better to stick with the Black Saints, Hat Huts and the Ayler box.

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Lester Bowie told me of the various "sideman gigs" on Byg and America, Lyons was the only leader to hold rehearsals.

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...better to stick with the Black Saints, Hat Huts and the Ayler box.

Must respectfully dissent on this. OTHER AFTERNOONS is a great record, imo.

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Must respectfully dissent on this. OTHER AFTERNOONS is a great record, imo.

It is at least very, very good. I have a habit of losing concentration on other Lyons dates (may be my flaw, but real).

My "very, very good" qualification is 'cause I don't think he ever made the "best" recording in him.

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Good point.

What about JUMP UP, WHAT TO DO ABOUT? That and OTHER AFTERNOONS are the Lyons-as-leader sides I consistently reach for.

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Too bad the Jones didn't make it to CD. Great record.

Yes. :tup

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My "very, very good" qualification is 'cause I don't think he ever made the "best" recording in him.

I completely agree.

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...better to stick with the Black Saints, Hat Huts and the Ayler box.

Must respectfully dissent on this. OTHER AFTERNOONS is a great record, imo.

Totally agreee!

One of the major scandal in jazz recordings is the lack of attention that Jimmy Lyons got from the US labels, big or small. Not a single one bothered to give him a leader's date while he was still around!

And the new issues still come from outside the USA!

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Late as ever but another vote for Other Afternoons. I haven't heard it in a long time (Anyone help me there?) but I prefer it to pretty much everything else I've ever heard from him including the classic stuff with Taylor.

How is the Ayler box? Worth the outlay?

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How is the Ayler box? Worth the outlay?

I'm glad I picked it up. Some damm good blowin' here.

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... finally put my order in for Way Ahead and New Africa.

:wub:

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I thought Brandon told you to get the Coursil like a year ago!

He did. (I said "OK.") But my resistance to authority kicked in at the time. ^_^

Then I finally realized that if I wanted to hear more Arthur Jones (what little there is on record), I'd better capitulate.

:rhappy:

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You'll be glad you did.

He's also on Yasmina and Frank Wright - Your Prayer among a few others, and gets prominent solo space (as does Coursil) on the latter.

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After I collect my thoughts, I will post about this too. I was a CBS employee at the time and I know one of the guys got away with $75,000.

this was a very interesting thread! i really enjoyed the don cherry (MU).

chuck - hopefully you have collected your thoughts by now! i am curious to hear the story!!

:excited:

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Instead of the Paul Bley, or even one of the AEC albums, I wish Universal France would have reissued Arthur Jones' Scorpio in the new Free America line. The one track I have ("Brother B") is something else — I keep coming back to it. Is the rest of the album as good?

So has Scorpio ever been issued on cd??

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Nope.

Only one track — "Brother B" — has made it to compact disc. It's a damn, damn fine track. It's available on this box set, which is well worth picking up:

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It's also the only way you can get Kenneth Terroade on cd.

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Bummer.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Anybody familiar with the supposedly 24 bit remastered mini sleeve editions on Sunspots label? Have these BYG/Actuel albums ever sounded good on CD? Most of the recordings I have sound brittle, but I couldn't resist the new Charly Art Ensemble 3-fer, and Shepp Yasmina/Malcolm CDs when I spotted them this past weekend in a local store.

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As far as I know all of the cd reissues are needle drops. The master tapes went missing a long time ago.

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