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Claus Ogerman

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I've been listening to cop some of his stuff for my own string writing. He is so pristine and clear---and can say so much more with simple unisons (especially with strings) than other over-writing arrangers who write more notes and use more trick bags. It's like if Pres were an arranger. He touches my heart.

To start out I would recommend the album Francis Albert Sinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim; and the two Jobim collaborations: Stone Flower and Wave. 

http://www.amazon.com/Francis-Albert-Sinatra-Antonio-Carlos/dp/B000006OBR

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fasstrack, I'm not all that familiar with Ogerman -- but I agree with you that Wave and Stone Flower are both something special. :) 

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10 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

fasstrack, I'm not all that familiar with Ogerman -- but I agree with you that Wave and Stone Flower are both something special. :) 

I think he's retired, but when active did great work with not only the above, but Wes Montgomery, Oscar Peterson, and many others.  

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8 hours ago, fasstrack said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tt3c4Ed5kQ Antonio Carlos Jobim: Desifinado and Meditation. Arranged and conducted by CO.

The correct title of the recording is: Antonio Carlos Jobim - The Composer of Desafinado, Plays

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I found this LP in my shelf:

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CLAUS OGERMAN / MICHAEL BRECKER: CITYSCAPE. WARNER BROTHERS RECORDS WB K 57 014 [1982]

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57 minutes ago, fasstrack said:

Danilo Pérez remembers me at Bill Evans. Filed under 'E' I find this LP in my shelf:

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BILL EVANS TRIO WITH SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA ... CONDUCTED BY CLAUS OGERMAN. VERVE/POLYDOR FRANCE 2304 525 (POL 340) [1966]

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PS. The video with Danilo Pérez is not available in Germany: 

Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar, da es Musik von UMG enthalten könnte, über deren Verwendung wir uns mit der GEMA bisher nicht einigen konnten.

A picture only in this window - not more!

 

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2 hours ago, optatio said:

PS. The video with Danilo Pérez is not available in Germany: 

Dieses Video ist in Deutschland leider nicht verfügbar, da es Musik von UMG enthalten könnte, über deren Verwendung wir uns mit der GEMA bisher nicht einigen konnten.

A picture only in this window - not more!

 

Really? I was able to hear it. Sorry, man.

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14 hours ago, fasstrack said:

Really? I was able to hear it. Sorry, man.

There is a dissent because of unclarified usage rights between UMG and GEMA, the German ASCAP!

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optatio, there is an easy way to download and see the videos on youtube that are "not shown" here in germany: put in the search-bar a "ss" before "youtube". like this:

"www.ssyoutube.com/...."

after that you can select various download options.

 

keep boppin´

marcel

 

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2 hours ago, bichos said:

optatio, there is an easy way to download and see the videos on youtube that are "not shown" here in germany: put in the search-bar a "ss" before "youtube". like this:

"www.ssyoutube.com/...."

after that you can select various download options.

 

keep boppin´

marcel

 

Wonderful, it works! Thanks a lot. Best greetings to Münster.

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One of many favorites from Ogerman:

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Found this excellent 2-CD anthology for $3 in a used bookstore last year... if you see it cheap somewhere, highly recommended as a good overview of Ogerman:

A Man And His Music

 

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Try Bill Evans Symbiosis on MPS.

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On ‎1‎/‎25‎/‎2016 at 11:28 AM, optatio said:

Wow! I never knew.

But composers do that a lot, and arrangers also 'ghost' a lot. Bob Brookmeyer wrote some uncredited charts for Ray Charles I know. I forgot who got the byline. Billy Byers, maybe?

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1 hour ago, fasstrack said:

Wow! I never knew.

But composers do that a lot, and arrangers also 'ghost' a lot. Bob Brookmeyer wrote some uncredited charts for Ray Charles I know. I forgot who got the byline. Billy Byers, maybe?

Ogerman is credited on Drifters singles (reissues on Atlantic) in my collection, that's how I knew.

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3 hours ago, fasstrack said:

Bob Brookmeyer wrote some uncredited charts for Ray Charles I know. I forgot who got the byline. Billy Byers, maybe?

Very interesting! Background details here:

http://www.jazzwax.com/2009/06/interview-bob-brookmeyer-part-3.html 

Compare with the results:

http://www.discogs.com/Ray-Charles-The-Genius-Of-Ray-Charles/release/3454564 

http://www.discogs.com/Ray-Charles-The-Genius-Hits-The-Road/release/689827 

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Well, Ralph Burns ain't no Quincy Jones...is he?!?!?!%=&

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Ogerman has died in March - seems the rumour was out among friends and musician colleagues, but it only just got public.

http://www.jazzwax.com/2016/10/claus-ogerman.html

 

I have to confess it took me quite a while to develop an appreciation for his art - when I got into jazz my rigorously opinionated teenage-self would not hold much interest in singers and would snarl at "with strings" albums (Clifford Brown's album was an early exception), when I wanted Wes Montgomery I went for Riverside, not Verve etc. But I did somehow always like Diana Krall. She was there and I knew her when I started getting into jazz, so I kept buying her CDs for a few years - and when she made that diva album with Ogerman arranging, I kinda slowly started figuring out that some of it was pretty good and the arrangements really didn't get in the way ... eventually, Ogerman kept popping up on all kinds of albums I bought, so there's that.

Not love, I guess, at least no all the time, but truckloads of respect.

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Interesting that they kept his death under wraps, likely some complex, or potential litigation issues.

 

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