Nat and Ron seemed to imply that it was that they felt Jazz came from an "unsavory" background.
Nat brought up the fact that a poet, Sterling Brown, told him that in the 50 years he taught at Howard University, they never let him teach a course there that had anything to do with jazz, because of the unsavory background thing.
Then he said that "Adam Clayton Powell had a paper in NY in competition with Amsterdam News. I knew the editor and had seen him at jazz clubs- but he never used jazz, and the implication was that it wasn't right for the image".
Then he says to Ron Carter, "So what you said in that interview was that 'the black press,the black media, has a great deal of responsibility in the lack of, and the possibility of. increasing the visibility and viability of jazz.' "Is that still the case?
Ron Carter says: "The only difference is that if I were writing it out verbally, I would underline all those words."
Yeah, it sounds like that jerk that yelled that out wound up contributing to CT's act!
I held off on the Crossland but got the other two, then at the "last minute" added these two:
Phil Haynes Liberty Now! https://philhaynesmusic.bandcamp.com/album/liberty-now
Roots Rocking Zimbabwe - The Modern Sound of Harare' Townships 1975-1980 (Analog Africa No.41)
https://analogafrica.bandcamp.com/album/roots-rocking-zimbabwe-the-modern-sound-of-harare-townships-1975-1980-analog-africa-no-41