JSngry Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Good to see you here, Frank. Lyles says "hi". You keep in touch w/Dixon any these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkimbrough Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Hi Jim - I'm hoping to see Dixon this week - playing some concerts in NC, and he mentioned that he's going to try to make one of them. Hi to Lyles - it's been much too long......hope to meet you someday too. If I hear any more about the upconing record date from Andrew I'll let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Just answering Bertrand's question, from the other Conn thread... Rooster, Did Michael C. confirm that this is exactly what will be on the Mosaic select? It seems like there is more than 3 CDs worth of material. Thanks, Bertrand. I have not confirmed anything specific, track-wise, with Michael. The set was so far off in the future, it seemed a bit too early to get into specifics. He did say that it would (supposedly), be everything thus far not yet released on CD, including all the unreleased sessions. Whether that's every track from every session, I couldn't say for sure. Looking at the sessions (see the first post in this thread), I do believe that everything could possibly fit on 3 CD's. I haven't look in a while, but I remember glancing at everything, and thinking it was plausable that it would all fit. Remember, there's up to 79 minutes per CD, which is a total of about four hours of music. Looking at the sessions, and the number of tunes at each session -- I think four hours would probably cover all of it. Anyone else think otherwise?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) Looking again at the sessionography (up in the very first post of this thread), I think there are basically five albums' worth of material there --- with two of those "albums" probably clocking in with around 50 to 60 minutes of material each. (I'm counting the two sessions with Tolliver as being one long-ish "album" --- and then the two sessions with String Quartet as also being one long-ish "album".) If the remaining three sessions (meaning the first three sessions) are about 40 minutes each (average), then that's... 60 + 60 = 2 hours 40 + 40 + 40 = 2 hours ...4 hours total. Not knowing anything about the lengths of each session, there could possibly be up to "four-and-one-half" hours of music here. But my guess is that there's closer to four hours, and possibly just shy of four hours (which would maybe fit perfectly on 3 CD's). Also, nothing to say that they couldn't make an exception with this particular Select, and have it be 4 CD's long. Edited September 4, 2004 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 So any idea when this might be released?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 I'm certainly hoping for "quantity over quality" - three "full" cds will attract me AND do lots for Mr. Hill's reputation. "If it is on tape, I want it." Andrew needs every minute he can get. B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 less is more - often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yeah, but I'd rather hear Andrew Hill's imperfections than a lot of people's perfections. The lyrics I'd reference in this regard in order to make my point are those of "Then I'll Grow Tired Of You". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yeah, but I'd rather hear Andrew Hill's imperfections than a lot of people's perfections. Me too!! And come to think of it, "perfection" isn't all it's cracked up to be either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted September 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 To elaborate a bit further. As much as I like Andrew Hill's music (the actually music itself), what I love is the process of listening and getting into Andrew Hill's music. His records always reveal themselves to me over time - and sometimes a long period of time. And if I haven't heard them for two or three months -- it's halfway like a brand new experience putting them on. (Or at least this is true to a much greater degree then almost any artist I can think of.) I'm not sure if Andrew Hill music is "all that, and a bag of chips" --- but my experience trying to get into it certainly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 It will be interesting to hear the trio session. Some of the horn sessions do flag at times, and there won't be that problem. I am very fond of the "Smoke Stack" album, even though "Wailing Wall" is a bit gruesome. Let's hope that Malcolm Addey is given the remastering job. (Not wishing to drag that discussion on again!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted December 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 (edited) This just in from Mosaic... February/March Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill (MS-016) (3 CDs) $39 Only six of the 31 selections on this set have been previously released. This Select gathers the remaining five Blue Note sessions by the innovative pianist/composer that were wholly or partially unissued. Settings vary from trio to septet to quartet with string quartet. Sidmen include Robin Kenyatta, Sam Rivers, Carlos Garnet, Bennie Maupin, Woody Shaw and Charles Tolliver. There are 32 titles listed in the discography, so it sounds like we're getting nearly everything. Edit: Full discography for the Hill Select sessions can be found in the first post in this thread. Edited December 7, 2004 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.L.M Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 (edited) Session #5: August 1st, 1969 Bennie Maupin-1 (fl, ts) Andrew Hill (p) Ron Carter (ba) Mickey Roker (dm) Plus a string quartet: Sanford Allen, Al Brown, Selwart Clarke, Kermit Moore (v, v, viola, cello) 1. Poinsettia - 1 - previously released on "One For One" double-LP 2. Fragments - previously released on "One For One" double-LP 3. Not So 4. Illusion - 1 - previously released on "One For One" double-LP 5. Soulmate Who's really the drummer on this session? MICKEY ROKER as listed here or FREDDIE WAITS as indicated on my copy of ONE FOR ONE? Edit: spelling corrections. Edited December 7, 2004 by P.L.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 4, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 (edited) Looking back through the sessions (first post in this thread), I had forgotten that Robin Kenyatta was on not one, but TWO sessions from this set -- both of the sessions with Sam Rivers. Though I've heard Kenyatta on Hill's "Sprial" (from the mid-70's), I'm otherwise not at all familiar with Kenyatta. (I'm listening to "Spiral" now -- hadn't in ages.) And what's the story about the drummer Teddy Robinson????? He's on the first three sessions that'll be on the Hill Select (both the dates with Kenyatta, and the trio date). Poking around on-line (Google and the AMG), and in my Complete BN discography/book (the 2001 edition), and I can only find four dates (total) that he recorded on – and three(!) of them will be on this Hill set. The other date he's on is Donald Byrd's "Chant", recorded in 1961, but not released until 1979 (on the LT series). Is that it?? 1) Are these four dates really the only things Robinson ever recorded?? (Can't imagine this is so, but stranger things have happened, I suppose.) 2) And if so (a mighty big "IF"), then how does a guy's entire recorded output as a sideman happen to be on four dates that all sat in the vaults (and were unreleased) until 18 and 38 years after they were recorded?? Edit: Counting the minutes until somebody posts a huge Teddy Robinson sessionography that I overlooked. Edited January 4, 2005 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 A quick look at Lord reveals Herbie Hancock Trio (Live In St Louis)- one track on VGM003 Donald Byrd/ Pepper Adams; Hip Entertainment (Live In St Louis) VGM 002 Bryon Allen Trio; ESP 1005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 (edited) A quick look at Lord reveals Herbie Hancock Trio (Live In St Louis)- one track on VGM003 Donald Byrd/ Pepper Adams; Hip Entertainment (Live In St Louis) VGM 002 Bryon Allen Trio; ESP 1005 Judging from the on-line clips of the Byron Allen ESP date (found 'em HERE, on the AMG), which I've never heard before --- Teddy Robinson seems like he was a mostly pretty "progressive" drummer in the mid-to-late 60's (or at least attempted to fulfill that role). So, given how little of his work was ever recorded (or so it seems), getting THREE unreleased Andrew Hill dates with Robinson could perhaps turn out to be even more interesting than we might have expected. These three Hill dates alone will practically double his entire recorded output (at least according to Lord). Edited January 5, 2005 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Don't have the Allen, but do have the VGM sides, and Robinson didn't quite seem ready for prime time. But that was earlier than these other dates, and things do change, doncha' know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Just copying this over from the other Hill Select thread... I heard all 3 disks a few days ago, though it was in a passive environment.....I don't think anybody will have too much to complain about - it struck me as very vital, with great playing by Andrew and sidemen alike. There is some sloppy stuff there, but everything I heard was definitely worth hearing. Can't wait to hear it!!! B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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