AllenLowe

your mother sows socks that smell -

I understand, but I think that what the oil companies do does not conform with those laws - it subverts, inverts, and perverts them - we'll have to pull John Kenneth Galbreath in here -

I have lots of old CDs with many scuffs - never had a problem playing them -

well, now my head is spinning, and that's not a pretty sight - when it comes to energy prices, I will say, if you think it has anything to do with the market and supply and demand than you haven't lived through the last 40 years of oil company lies and profiteering - basically what happens is that the companies (which control ALL ends of the market - it's called vertical integration) invent fake shortages, wait until the prices go up and stay stable, and than say, good, supplies are fine. We can argue this all night and day, but that's the reality. Now, saying that all of this price gouging is inevitable and that there's no solution except natural market selection is like saying, well, crime is inevitable, you just have to let it play out in nature's natural way - B.S., I say. Do we let people rob liquor stores just because shit happerns and it's hard to prevent? No, we pass laws and we regulate. Now, with Mosaic it would be impossible to regulate; it can't be done and it would entail the klind of repressive laws that you and I do not enjoy. So what's left? Buyer rationality; personal ethics. Live by your word. I do - I sell things and I charge a fair price for them and I don't gouge no matter how desparate people are for them (and I think this is confirmed by my recent dealings withpeople on this site). Sell things for whatever you want; get a fair profit; but don't delude yourself into thinking that, in the big world, things run by the rules of economics 101 -

I havent heard the Walter Bishop, but I must admit I find much of his later stuff a bit disjointed - it's funny, I worked with him for a few weeks in Hartford in the early 1990s (I think it was) - and at times he could really nail the bebop thing in a beautiful and deep way, at other times he was just a bit out of synch - another older musician lost in trying to sound "contemporary" - wonderful guy, though, and talking to him was the closest I ever got to Bud Powell - -

all right, I'll leave the economics to the college boys - the somewhat ironic thing in all of this is that I don't own a single Mosiaic - nothing against the label, I just have a mild aversion to boxed sets, and have tended to own most of what they offer in other formats that I purchased earlier. Nothing against the label, as I said, and I knew Charlie Lourie, who was a sweetheart of a guy.

this is unfortunate. I remember seeing Don Byas on PBS in the late 1960s - likely that's gone, too -

now wait a minute - I can't aggree with that -

From the web: "The Law of Demand: quantity demanded in inversely proportional to price. Simply put, the higher the price, the lower the demand and the lower the price, the higher the demand. " so - look at oil - cold winter - plenty of oil - at a HIGH price - and, what do you know, there's plenty of demand - kind of makes you think there's something out of wack with the law of supply and demand - because there are certain things it does not take into account - like Nat's solo on Body and Soul, which is one of the most perfect things I've ever heard - and which many people may never hear because of the butcheries of late-dynasty capitalism - very truly yours, Allen Lowe

supply and demand is the general description of what we're talking about - THE LAW of supply and demand says that supply and demand acts according to certain laws - like supply high, demand high, price low - which is BS when you look at oil and gas prices - you are confusing the concept of supply and demand with the law of supply and demand -

that show probably exists on tape - I saw it at the time, as I recall Barry Harris was on piano. Hawk was basically just breathing through the horn - I would assume that public tv still has a copy of it -

he can reissue them from Tahiti - public domain there is about 3 days -

and by the way, I did check under this guy's bed - he's got 235 copies of Nat Cole there -

actually, even with a 50 year public domain, publishing would be paid. And it's not a Euro ripoff if it's legal. And that would allow someone to reissue Nat Cole legally and undercut the rip-off market (and there would not be an ethics issue once Mosaic has stop selling it). And enough of this supply and demand talk. Sometimes it applies, sometimes not. Something is worth what someone will pay for it, regardless of supply and demand. It has nothing to do with demand, it has only to do with what the seller wants to make and what some crazy person is willing to pay.

well, I'm wide awake here - what would be my solution? Personal responsbility, personal ethics, buyer rationality (because this is a two-way street) - and a 50 year public domain music law as in Europe -

wait - supply and demand says that when supply is low and demand high, prices will go up - "what the market will bear" means that people charge as much as they like, even if the demand is high and the SUPPLY is high - that is contrary to the law, which says if demand is high and supply high prices will go down or at least stay even - hence gasoline and oil where prices have gone up and up even as supplies have been steady - so the market does not really necessarily observe supply and demand -

Barry Harris told me that when Hawkins heard him play he said "oh you Detroits; you play the piano like a piano, not like it's some damn drum."

sellers manipulater supply all the time - like oil companies, etc. I'll bet this guy has 250 Nat Cole sets under his bed -

by the way, I'm very glad we can have a civilized conversation about economics - I think I'll dedicate my posts to the memory of Robert Heilbroner, who just passed a few weeks ago -

c'mon now, don't give me that supply and demand cheese, Ron - the rule is not supply and demand but whatever the market will bear - basically, meaning that people will get as much as they can for anything from key chains to heating oil -

and while we're at it the price for the Percy France CD has gone up to $200 - and that doesn't include postage or handling (do you think this is a charity?)

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like more than a few musicians I've known Percy was very comfortable in his hometown, had his own little niche, and may have been just a little bit nervous about trying for wider exposure - I've seen this in more than a few musicians who just didn't want to deal with a lot of the business aspects of the music and the complications of greater fame -

well, philosophically we're starting to starting to exceed my intellectual capacity here. It's just that to me there is really no such thing as a free market. The market has many ties on it, many restrictions (like, as I mentioned, copyright which prevents me from simply reproducing the Mosaic box) - I just think that there are ethical standards of fairness and there is a not-so-fine line that can be crossed into greed. That line has been crossed here - no, not just crossed but stomped on and erased - oh, and here's that extra GREED -

GREED is an ethical issue - that's how - GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED GREED - everything else is music -