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Sarah Vaughan is always great , but what I noticed most is the "Heads of State". I have both albums of them, since each of the players, especially Al Foster as one of my favourite drummers, they all are fantastic musicians. I had hoped they will do a third album

@Big Beat Steve: Yes I was sure if you see the hidous cover art you will remember those records. Well, it seems in Austria LPs were more expensive. Once in the 70´s I went as far as making a trip on Train to Köln, because during ski week I kissed a German Girl and she didn´t slap me like Austrian Girls would do. So I made the trip up North to see her only to find out that she got another friend. But I was consoled by the fact that I got a whole Batch of in Austria hard to find LPs at "Saturn" in Köln. And actually they were cheaper than in Austria. Back to the "Jazz Track" series: If you say the word "Jazz Track" in a sloppy Austrian manner it sounds like if you say "Scheissdreck". I remember we later said "the Scheissdreck Serie", but nevertheless bought them since they were cheap and had some Music we "needed".....

This is the LP I mentioned. There were others from that series, one was Dizzy Gillespie, and one was Brubeck live from some College or University, I think with a fast and strong Version of "Lullaby in Rhythm". I´m not really a Brubeck-fan, that was not so much part of our tastes, but I liked that Brown record since it was quite Swinging and an exiting live atmosphere. This was a cheap Bellaphone series. I think on Album was About 101 Shillings, like Musidisk, it was 101 Shillings, while the normal Price of an LP (let´s say labels like CBS) was 163 Shillings.

Monk tellling Bud "I´ll make the Aeroplane for you" . You remember this remark ? Monk made a weird Sound on his piano, which was coverd with a lot of glasses and dishes and Bud was fascinated by this Sound. Bud playing "Ruby My Dear" at Birdland 1964, and when they listened back to the tape at Ornettes place, Bud said to Monk " Hey Monk get us some wine"

one of my favourite Miles records. It´s so great. I think I first got acquainted to it thru the sampler "Greatest Hits" which has "Valentine" and "All Blues". Incredible that fast Version of "All Blues".

@Big Beat Steve: A very good Point: I also Questions from what Sources they had their material. And yes. The Coltrane Album I have from that label "Tanganyika Strut" is the sessions with Wilbur Harden for Savoy. It´s the only Studio Musidisc I have, the others a live Albums and Maybe the gave them other Dates and other personnel just to make People believe it´s something they didn´t have allready. In my case, the "Bird Fats Bud" stuff, because datet as "1949" and with Tommy Potter and Max Roach (instead of 1950 and Curley Russel and Art Blakey) got me "trapped". I purchase it in spite of the fact that I already had the "A Night at Birdland 1950" from the CBS double Album (the one with the Beautiful painting of bird with the Saxophone. Musidisc, Kings of Jazz, and Bellaphone were the cheaper LPs , very easy for us to purchase. Do you remember those Brown LPs on Bellaphone "Jazz Tracks". I had the one of Bird, it has the Sides at Carnegie Hall with Diz (but with some of Diz soloes edited), then some from the 1947 Dials with Miles and J.J., and the last three tracks is Maybe the last time Bird was recorded live. Autumn 1954 with John Lewis, Percy Heath and Kenny Clark, doing "My Funny Valentine", "The Song is You" and "Cool Blues". This is almost Bird´s "swan song".

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I have listened again to this one, which is one of my favourite Albums. Actually the first time I had a taste of it was in the 70´s when there was a sampler on CBS "Miles Davis Greatest Hits" wich had two tunes from that Album: My Funny Valentine and the Ultra fast Version of "All Blues". And Right now while I read this I remember I actually saw all members of the second Miles Davis quintet live , each of them with their own later Groups: Miles anyway on several occasions, George Coleman , the short "replacement" Sam Rivers, Wayne Shorter of Course, Herbie, Ron, Tony, and the unit as VSOP .

Another "treasure" from the old days: The famous "Musidisc Series", also a cheap way to purchase some good stuff, mostly bop live. This Bud Powell recording is completly mistitled, it tells us "From Birdland 1956 with Paul Chambers and Art Taylor" but actually it´s from february 1953 at Birdland with Oscar Pettiford and Roy Haynes. Now you might find it on ESP as "Winter Sessions". And here is another one from Musidisc: Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Fats Navarro, mistitled as Birdland 1949 while it actually was 1950. I also have the double Album CBS with the whole concert, but my copy must have a fabrication failure since it sounds too sharp, almost painful for the ears. I have to turn the basses completly up and the treble completly down and it still sounds sharp. So the musidisc has a better Sound Quality. On the Musidisc are only four titles: "Move" "Streetbeat" "Out of Nowhere" and "Cool Blues". It´s remarkable that Fats leads the Proceedings on Move and Streetbeat. I think those are among the best of Fats, even so late in his Career. Bird is very lyrical here, it´s remarkable how relaxed he starts his solos. Bud is Wonderful. I rate this higher than his trio Recordings, Bud who Always had the highest Level of playing Standards got even more inspired if he played with other horn Players. And especially for @Big Beat Steve: Me and my Frieds called this one the "orange Album" . It was our late night stuff . Especially on vacation when we stayed in a small wooden house in the mountains and came home after fishing trouts in the lake. So this was our "after Hours" live Music Party.

Since Im absolutly an ignorant with all what´s not jazz , I don´t really know what it was with the Beatles, but I think what you want to explain to me is how we boys in highschool swapped records or someone borrowed you the record and you made a cassete recording out of it. During intermissions when we went down in the school court to smoke (yeah that´s how it was) this guy and that guy came to you and asked "Do you already have ....... this, that ? I´ll never forget about "Filles de Kilimanjaro". I thought that means "Vieles vom Kilimanjaro" . And our no knowlegde of french and mixed with that "terrible Viennese Slang" they said "hast Du schon die Fil-les de Killi-Mann-Tscharo" ?

@Referentzhunter: You are Right, now I remember it, it was my same Impression on first Hearing. I think one must understand under what circumstances the Album was made, it was just the movie score for that Film Noir. For my personal tastes, I also prefer the other records that Miles made during that period, the first quintet, the Prestige and Columbia Albums.

a classic !

Oh thank you. I´m sure this must be the same session I have on the italian LP. Those live sessions from Miles from the early 50´s all are really treasures and it´s completly different to the "Birth of the Cool", it´s pure be-bop. I have the Juni 1950 sessions with J.J. Johnson and Brew Moore, the Miles-Stan Getz also 1950, the 1951 stuff and one CD which has 2 sessions one from 1948 with Lee Konitz at the Roost and 1952 with Jackie McLean from Birdland. A lot of Hours of early Miles live. Not to Forget the 1949 Paris stuff.

@AllenLowe: Agreed : Sue Mingus´ book is Wonderful, but it also made me sad , to read how much poor Mr. Mingus had to suffer from that terrible terminal illness, I mean wheelchair is one Thing, but not even able to move your Hands that´s too much. About Jo Jones: Once there was a German old time Pianist and writer his Name was Gunter Boas I think and he wrote an Essay About a visit he made to Harlem, where he met Milt Hinton and others and told About a bar where Jo Jones sat at a table drinkin and drinkin. This was in the late 70´s. And he stated that he was warned to try to make a conversation with Jo Jones, since this could become a very unpleasant experience. But strange: On a Dizzy Video from 1982 (Dizzy´s Dream Band) Max Roach Plays a Hi Hat solo dedicated to Jo Jones and then they brought Mr. Jo Jones out for Applause. He was top dressed, had a cane and took a bow, but he did not Play...…..

It seams I was quite conscious About that band yesterday, since I had "Sue´s Changes" in my head (it was the most celebrated Mingus tune the band with Adams/Pullen played). After work and after having coffee I sat down at the piano and played "Sue´s Changes" from ear, and my wife who is not necessarly a big jazz fan but digs some of the stuff, came into the room and said whats this you never played it, sounds very fine……, well it was the slower more lyrical part of "Sue´s Changes".

@medjuck: You are Right: Now the best way to listen to it is the Blue Note CD, because it also has a second unreleased set from the first band, and the unreleased "Lady Bird" with the Big Nicholas-Lockjaw Tenor Tandem. But for nostalgic reasons I still spin sometimes the "Red Miles Davis Album". If I want to listen the the whole Music, I listen to the CD. Hey, here´s another one from that series: Miles with Stan Getz from february 1950, also at Birdland, featuring also J.J. Johnson, Tadd Dameron, Gene Ramey and of Course Art Blakey. I don´t know if this set was issued on CD also. Anyway, this is an LP from the same obscure Italian Label "Kings of Jazz" and the title is "Here are Miles Davis and Stan Getz at their rare of all rarest Performances". We called this "The Grey Miles DAvis Album". So, you had to listen to the red and the gray Miles DAvis album

I love this record. I think when I first heard the title tune "E.S.P." it was on a Miles Davis Sampler "Greatest Hits". Then, this was a cheap way to buy some Miles. Later I bought all the Albums of Course. From the first CBS "Round Midnight" until the last "Agharta". I think I like most the Albums from 1963 on, the live stuff and the Studio productions with the second great quintet.

This was a classic when I was at high School. Those Italian LPs were legendary , "Here is Miles Davis at his rare of all rarest Performances" (Kings of Jazz Series). Actually it´s a very boppish Miles from 1951 at Birdland, on Side 1 with J.J.Johnson, Sonny Rollins, Kenny Drew, Tommy Potter and Art Blaker (really an All Star Band), and on Side 2 also an Allstar Band Miles with Eddie Lockjaw Davis, Big Nick Nicholas (on the Album cover wrong: Sonny Rollins), Billie Taylor, Charles Mingus, Art Blakey. The tunes is: "Half Nelson" "Mike´s Blues" (wrong title, the tune is "Down"), "The Squirrel" and "Move". This is Miles playing very high Register and fast. Like Diz or Fats. I think, he is really very strong here and this is first class be bop. The Album...….. then more than 40 years ago we just said "The Red Miles Davis Album"...…. Play that "Red Miles Davis Album" again…..

Looks like Elton John...…

From about what period is it, late 70´s ? I don´t have that but have one from that mini-label "Impro" which is dedicated to Bird "Bird Fire" with his working quartet he had then: German-French pianist Siegfried Kessler, Bob Cunningham and Clifford Jarvis. (Lover Man, Au Privave, Parker´s Mood, Now´s the Time). I saw that group in spring 1979 and it was one of the greatest live concerts I saw. Something I still remember 40 years later.

I love those Steeplechase live albums of Dexter. Recently listened to "I want more" which is great. "Cheese Cake" is also one I love very much. Great record and very interesting since it seems to be the only occasions where Bud played "Stockholm" (a wonderful version) and "Satin Doll" . This is one of the most brilliant trio recordings. And the good thing is it has a drummer one can HEAR. Not like many of his mid 50´s recordings where you don´t hear what the drummer does. Do you also have "Writin´ for Duke" on Mythic Sound, which is from the same session ? (unissued material).

And how about "Wah Wah Watson" ? At least that´s the one I know from the famous Herbie Hancock stuff "V.S.O.P" , the first record they did.Anyway this is a bit more Miles related, especially the first part of the concert where they play the music of the "2´nd classic quintet" with Hubbard replacing Davis. And the only "guitar" Watson I know, the "Wah Wah Watson" is on the more funky stuff from the other part of the concert. I really love that record which celebrated 3 creative periods of Hancock and his fellow musicians...... And I think I saw Wah Wah Watson live when Hancock did a kind of "Headhunters 2" decades later with saxophonist Bill Evans (also a Miles´ man) on tenor......

Well even if they were well known in Europe, I don´t know much about other music than jazz. Yes, the book about Tadd Dameron is Paul Combs book. I also have another larger format book about Tadd Dameron, but it doesn´t have as much informations like Paul Combs´ book.

I remember well when I was younger somebody borrowed me a book written by Ronnie Scott which was very interesting. Great stories About musicians who played there, I think the late Coleman Hawkins, Bill Evans , and many others. A friend of mine was on London during the time Dizzy played at Ronnie Scott I think with a larger Group with Al Gafa on guitar, About the stuff he recorded for his Pablo Album "Bahia"......

Very interesting back-ground info ! I have thought he had "lost" Milcho Levieff, but sure....... he played a lot with George Cables. George Cables was a very very fine pianist and composer, his was with Dexter, and by the way, Dexter also was on schedule in Velden 81, then with Kirk Lightsey......