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I had DB subscribed in the late 70´s early 80s. Once saw a 50´s reader´s poll and I saw names I never heard of and they were listed on top places, having better votes than other who really were legends. But I also must admit I sometimes had the Impression that those who voted didn´t really know many musicians, they voted for the only Artist the new. Like let´s say Jimmy Smith. Since most of the Folks didn´t know another Name of an organ Player, Jimmy Smith would be first for decades. Oscar Peterson the same. Folks who voted didn´t know another Name of a Pianist than Oscar Peterson so he got the most Votings.....

@Justin V :I remember I also have one LP from that Vanguard gig. Don´t know exactly what day it was. But I haven´t listened to it very very much. During that time I had another Pepper Album 1979 in Japan "Landscape" which I love much more and still listen to it. On the Vanguard LP what I didn´t like so much was an over Long composition something called "My Friend Stan". For my tastes it´s too much of a composition, too Long. I like much of Art Pepper´s playing, mostly from the later years , but I´m not the biggest fan of his own compositons, which are sometimes too Long, it´s hard to solo on such a Long theme, you might be forced to read it from sheet rather than get it into your head just to improvise on it as is usual on stage….

Agreed. And an interesting version of "Flowers for Albert" is also on a Henry Grimes CD I have, some live stuff from Finland from about 2005 when I saw them live: Henry Grimes, David Murray and Hamid Drake, wonderful ! And since we are talkin also about Sun Ra´s ESP record. And me talkin about Henry Grimes: A good suggest for listening is also Henry Grimes ESP album "The Call" with Perry Robertson and ....... ah....... a drummer I forgot his name.......

Yes, I wouldn´t say, Pope and Hill are not excellent Players, but Maybe I had to get used to that strange bassoon like Sound Pope has on Tenor, and the somehow colder more Electric sounding bass amplifier Calvin Hill used. I think I heard them on a later Occasion also, then Calvin Hill was replaced by Fender Bassist Tyrone Brown. Now back to "Peaceful Heart"...….. some idea in what measure it´s written ?

The forerunner of the first quintet ! Other than on the pre 1955 Recordings, here you allready have the classic harmon mute Sound of Miles on "A Gal from Calico" and "The first time I saw your face before me" , with Red Garland it allready sounds like the later 1956 Prestige Records, and it´s interesting how Miles choose to include at least one tune from the Gillespie Charts, here Night in Tunisia and listen how Miles does the intro, it´s a very individualistic manner how he does it. This one allready has Red Garland and Philly Joe Jones, and the choice of Oscar Pettiford before Paul Chambers came in, is an interesting one. I purchased it together with the Miles and Milt Jackson Album. I think both of them were japanese Prestige Recordings, in 1978. This second Album also is very interesting with Jackie McLean, two of his tunes, Milt Jackson great as ever, and the very very fine piano of Ray Bryant.

I must have been something like "the Musidisc Man" since I purchase so many of them. While the former postet Tadd Dameron-Fats Navarro was live material from the Royal Roost, this one is studio material from Savoy records. Mostly it has the 1946 stuff featuring also Sonny Stitt and Kenny Dorham (Boppin a Riff Part 1 and 2, Everything´s Cool Part 1 and 2 etc ).

Saw him only once, with the Max Roach Quartet. I liked the Roach Quartet with Billy Harper and Reggie Workman more than the later replacements Odean Pope and Calvin Hill. With Harper and Workman it was a warmer sound. And I remember the only Billy Harper composition I am aware of was "Peaceful Heart". But I couldn´t figure out what measure it is......

This photo and some others from the same night are in the photo and memorablia book "To Bird with Love", done by Francis Paudras and Chan Richardson, Parker´s "widow". Sure I have that book ! On the other photos you also see the other musicians involved: Bud, Kenny Dorham, Charles Mingus, Art Blakey. Too bad it was not recorded. I have read somewhere that at least the first night was okay, only on the second night it became a fiasco. But still I have read About so many fiascos and if you listen to it it sounds great now…… like "Mingus´ Town Hall Concert". You can listen now to it and say you enjoy it. One Special photo from that night Shows Bird while he bends over the piano to say something to Bud. Yes, Bird Looks bloated on this, too much booze. I saw photos of Bud from About a few months before he died, same Thing, bloated by too much alcool. Those are the famous Raymond Ross photos……..

During the last 2 weeks I have listened to a lot of Miles Davis records. This is one of my early favourits. I heard the title tune on a sampler when I was a Boy and it´s that tune that made me listen to jazz. And Sid´s Ahead is a great after Hours Blues, Coltrane is fantastic on this one. I only think that the trio tune "Billy Boy" could have been omitted. Otherwise I really love Red Garland, with his light tough and his Trademark chords, but on this silly tune he really sounds like he overdoes it and bangs them chords in a manner that´s not really typical for him. But then Comes that medium tempo "Straight No Chaser" which is Beautiful...….

Here another of my early treasures. You will find most of the material on the Milestone CD "Fats Navarro" but not all: The vocals, listed on that Musidisc done by an "unknown" actually are by Kenny Hagood, anyway he is one of the most easy recognizable vocalists. "Pennies from Heaven" is done in a slow manner, and "The Kitchenette Across the Hall" is a rare Dameron song with the lyrics also by Dameron. All Play great here. Fats is in top form and Plays some of the best bop trumpet I ever heard, Allen Eager is beautifully relaxed, and you can hear some short piano solos by Dameron. On the last track "Wahoo" there´s no Fats, it´s Kai Winding and Allen Eager….. We called this "the blue Tadd Dameron-Fats Navarro Album"...…..

Sarah Vaughan is always great , but what I noticed most is the "Heads of State". I have both albums of them, since each of the players, especially Al Foster as one of my favourite drummers, they all are fantastic musicians. I had hoped they will do a third album

@Big Beat Steve: Yes I was sure if you see the hidous cover art you will remember those records. Well, it seems in Austria LPs were more expensive. Once in the 70´s I went as far as making a trip on Train to Köln, because during ski week I kissed a German Girl and she didn´t slap me like Austrian Girls would do. So I made the trip up North to see her only to find out that she got another friend. But I was consoled by the fact that I got a whole Batch of in Austria hard to find LPs at "Saturn" in Köln. And actually they were cheaper than in Austria. Back to the "Jazz Track" series: If you say the word "Jazz Track" in a sloppy Austrian manner it sounds like if you say "Scheissdreck". I remember we later said "the Scheissdreck Serie", but nevertheless bought them since they were cheap and had some Music we "needed".....

This is the LP I mentioned. There were others from that series, one was Dizzy Gillespie, and one was Brubeck live from some College or University, I think with a fast and strong Version of "Lullaby in Rhythm". I´m not really a Brubeck-fan, that was not so much part of our tastes, but I liked that Brown record since it was quite Swinging and an exiting live atmosphere. This was a cheap Bellaphone series. I think on Album was About 101 Shillings, like Musidisk, it was 101 Shillings, while the normal Price of an LP (let´s say labels like CBS) was 163 Shillings.

Monk tellling Bud "I´ll make the Aeroplane for you" . You remember this remark ? Monk made a weird Sound on his piano, which was coverd with a lot of glasses and dishes and Bud was fascinated by this Sound. Bud playing "Ruby My Dear" at Birdland 1964, and when they listened back to the tape at Ornettes place, Bud said to Monk " Hey Monk get us some wine"

one of my favourite Miles records. It´s so great. I think I first got acquainted to it thru the sampler "Greatest Hits" which has "Valentine" and "All Blues". Incredible that fast Version of "All Blues".

@Big Beat Steve: A very good Point: I also Questions from what Sources they had their material. And yes. The Coltrane Album I have from that label "Tanganyika Strut" is the sessions with Wilbur Harden for Savoy. It´s the only Studio Musidisc I have, the others a live Albums and Maybe the gave them other Dates and other personnel just to make People believe it´s something they didn´t have allready. In my case, the "Bird Fats Bud" stuff, because datet as "1949" and with Tommy Potter and Max Roach (instead of 1950 and Curley Russel and Art Blakey) got me "trapped". I purchase it in spite of the fact that I already had the "A Night at Birdland 1950" from the CBS double Album (the one with the Beautiful painting of bird with the Saxophone. Musidisc, Kings of Jazz, and Bellaphone were the cheaper LPs , very easy for us to purchase. Do you remember those Brown LPs on Bellaphone "Jazz Tracks". I had the one of Bird, it has the Sides at Carnegie Hall with Diz (but with some of Diz soloes edited), then some from the 1947 Dials with Miles and J.J., and the last three tracks is Maybe the last time Bird was recorded live. Autumn 1954 with John Lewis, Percy Heath and Kenny Clark, doing "My Funny Valentine", "The Song is You" and "Cool Blues". This is almost Bird´s "swan song".

oh sorry, wrong thread

I have listened again to this one, which is one of my favourite Albums. Actually the first time I had a taste of it was in the 70´s when there was a sampler on CBS "Miles Davis Greatest Hits" wich had two tunes from that Album: My Funny Valentine and the Ultra fast Version of "All Blues". And Right now while I read this I remember I actually saw all members of the second Miles Davis quintet live , each of them with their own later Groups: Miles anyway on several occasions, George Coleman , the short "replacement" Sam Rivers, Wayne Shorter of Course, Herbie, Ron, Tony, and the unit as VSOP .

Another "treasure" from the old days: The famous "Musidisc Series", also a cheap way to purchase some good stuff, mostly bop live. This Bud Powell recording is completly mistitled, it tells us "From Birdland 1956 with Paul Chambers and Art Taylor" but actually it´s from february 1953 at Birdland with Oscar Pettiford and Roy Haynes. Now you might find it on ESP as "Winter Sessions". And here is another one from Musidisc: Charlie Parker, Bud Powell, Fats Navarro, mistitled as Birdland 1949 while it actually was 1950. I also have the double Album CBS with the whole concert, but my copy must have a fabrication failure since it sounds too sharp, almost painful for the ears. I have to turn the basses completly up and the treble completly down and it still sounds sharp. So the musidisc has a better Sound Quality. On the Musidisc are only four titles: "Move" "Streetbeat" "Out of Nowhere" and "Cool Blues". It´s remarkable that Fats leads the Proceedings on Move and Streetbeat. I think those are among the best of Fats, even so late in his Career. Bird is very lyrical here, it´s remarkable how relaxed he starts his solos. Bud is Wonderful. I rate this higher than his trio Recordings, Bud who Always had the highest Level of playing Standards got even more inspired if he played with other horn Players. And especially for @Big Beat Steve: Me and my Frieds called this one the "orange Album" . It was our late night stuff . Especially on vacation when we stayed in a small wooden house in the mountains and came home after fishing trouts in the lake. So this was our "after Hours" live Music Party.

Since Im absolutly an ignorant with all what´s not jazz , I don´t really know what it was with the Beatles, but I think what you want to explain to me is how we boys in highschool swapped records or someone borrowed you the record and you made a cassete recording out of it. During intermissions when we went down in the school court to smoke (yeah that´s how it was) this guy and that guy came to you and asked "Do you already have ....... this, that ? I´ll never forget about "Filles de Kilimanjaro". I thought that means "Vieles vom Kilimanjaro" . And our no knowlegde of french and mixed with that "terrible Viennese Slang" they said "hast Du schon die Fil-les de Killi-Mann-Tscharo" ?

@Referentzhunter: You are Right, now I remember it, it was my same Impression on first Hearing. I think one must understand under what circumstances the Album was made, it was just the movie score for that Film Noir. For my personal tastes, I also prefer the other records that Miles made during that period, the first quintet, the Prestige and Columbia Albums.

a classic !

Oh thank you. I´m sure this must be the same session I have on the italian LP. Those live sessions from Miles from the early 50´s all are really treasures and it´s completly different to the "Birth of the Cool", it´s pure be-bop. I have the Juni 1950 sessions with J.J. Johnson and Brew Moore, the Miles-Stan Getz also 1950, the 1951 stuff and one CD which has 2 sessions one from 1948 with Lee Konitz at the Roost and 1952 with Jackie McLean from Birdland. A lot of Hours of early Miles live. Not to Forget the 1949 Paris stuff.

@AllenLowe: Agreed : Sue Mingus´ book is Wonderful, but it also made me sad , to read how much poor Mr. Mingus had to suffer from that terrible terminal illness, I mean wheelchair is one Thing, but not even able to move your Hands that´s too much. About Jo Jones: Once there was a German old time Pianist and writer his Name was Gunter Boas I think and he wrote an Essay About a visit he made to Harlem, where he met Milt Hinton and others and told About a bar where Jo Jones sat at a table drinkin and drinkin. This was in the late 70´s. And he stated that he was warned to try to make a conversation with Jo Jones, since this could become a very unpleasant experience. But strange: On a Dizzy Video from 1982 (Dizzy´s Dream Band) Max Roach Plays a Hi Hat solo dedicated to Jo Jones and then they brought Mr. Jo Jones out for Applause. He was top dressed, had a cane and took a bow, but he did not Play...…..

It seams I was quite conscious About that band yesterday, since I had "Sue´s Changes" in my head (it was the most celebrated Mingus tune the band with Adams/Pullen played). After work and after having coffee I sat down at the piano and played "Sue´s Changes" from ear, and my wife who is not necessarly a big jazz fan but digs some of the stuff, came into the room and said whats this you never played it, sounds very fine……, well it was the slower more lyrical part of "Sue´s Changes".