Gheorghe

Obviously a great trumpet player. Sure one I would have liked to meet and play with, from all you tell me about him. The situation with good good trumpet players over here in Europe was not so great when I was young, now we are blessed with many talents. If he chose to stay in his hometown, what was the reason, did he teach ? Without teaching I doubt many jazz musicians today could survive....

I´m glad I saw both "Spoon" and "McShann" live, but not together, but in different concerts. What´s new for me is, that those old 40´s recordings are on Black Lion. I always had considered Black Lion as a label of the sixties, which recorded American Expatriats in Europe, like Don Byas, Dexter Gordon, Coleman Hawkins in Germany, Bud Powell, Philly J.J, and so on. Is this an unknown session ? The last Leo Parker I have is those two BN "Rollin with Leo" and so. I kike Leo Parker from the good old bop days, with Tadd, with Fats and so, and of course those two BN, though I would have wished to hear him with a better rhythm section. oh yes, this one, then the Spotlite live stuff , and all of Dizzy´s 40´s big band stuff. I love it all. For several purposes: First of all, if you are an instrumental player, just listen to the ballads like Billy Eckstine does them and you get a lot of feeling you can transpond in your one axe, And as small band player you can learn a lot about bop too, a lot of them heads, out chorusses, those typical Tadd Dameron voiced fill in´s , it´s really so lot stuff and learning potential, I love it.

just read that you ask for swing big bands of the post war era. Can´t contribute much, I mean I hear the Mr. B´s fantastic big band and Dizzy´s Bigband, and swing......well they swing like mad, can´t stay still on something like that, I start to move around in the whole room !

One of my favourite McLean records, oh yeah, Woody Shaw , "Sweet Love of Mine" , and that sound, that´s the quintessence of my estetic feelings. Only the Music. The cover is more like a Miles Davis 70´s ear cover. I like the face of the woman, that´s my kind of type, those faces that look a bit like a Raffael Madonna...... But back to the music ! One of the best things of the late 60´s . Oh boy I love this ! All love for Pharoah Sanders ! I´m so happy he was long enough around. Since I had "Live at the East" when I was in my early teens, Pharoah became a favourite of mine. I didn´t grow up with more polished mainstream, I grew up with music like that..... , and Jackie McLean and Dolphy etc.....

Is Fritz Pauer on piano ? He was my favourite pianist and my real mentor, no Pauer, no Gheorghe.....😀 Erich Kleinschuster was ok, I heard him do some really slippery trombone on a rapid version of "Move". He was mostly a teacher to. But if I ever would have wanted to get formal teaching I would have preferred to be taught by Fritz Pauer. I saw him almost every day to hang out and talk about music, he let me sit in when I was 18....dig that !

I still have the 2 LPs, it´s very fine and goes into further directions. Agitation I think is a very fine track. But I don´t think I re-buy another version of something I already have. Would be too much for me, but good idea, sometimes I´ll go back and listen to those two old LPs. Or was it a double album, whatever.....

I´m not a big connoisseur of 80/90´s fusion. I had to play in that period in a fusion band and maybe listened to some stuff, some sounds to enlarge my horizont. I think there was a Don Cherry record with more fusion instruments, and of course there was Ornette´s Prime Time", and I still liked very much the Miles of the early 80´s mostly 81 or so, when it still had more spontanious elements and was not such a "stage show" with a lotta syhthisizers how it was from the mid 80s on. I think I had a James Blood Ulmer thing also. But I was not really a listener then, I was too busy to handle my own stuff until it got worn out....

I remember I purchased it when it was brand new. First listening to it I was shocked because there was only some french voice and some terrible cracking and the most annoying thing for me then at 17 was that the band had already played the head of "Rifftide" and was into Miles´ solo and this Frenchman still was tellin some stupid stuff about gothic catedrales, fugues of Jean Sebastian Bach and Mozard . But the band is topnotch bop. Miles got almost as much dexterity as Diz or Fats and playes some top bop trumpet. James Moody is extraordinar here, it almost sounds like a forrunner of Trane in the 60´s or my then favourite of the 70´s Dave Liebman. And a fine occasion to hear the fine piano of Tadd Dameron, whom Miles always praised "a very fine piano player". The fast numbers are exactly the bop I love, and the ballads are really strong. Davis even announces the tunes which he never did again. But it must have been annyoing that if he is so kind to say "now Don´t Blame Me" and the french MC repeats the title with a french-accentuated English.... Another favourite of mine. Carter Jefferson was so strong ! Wonderful music.

I got this very very late, just a few years ago and was a bit disappointed. I don´t get the same feeling I would get with Miles and Trane with that fantastic rhythm section. And considering all that Pepper horror stories that are told about the days before this session, you just hear at any moment that the stuff is not well prepared. Jazz me Blues and Waltz me Blues just are not the stuff I want to hear. It does not fit together with that rhythm section and that "Waltz me Blues" or how it is titled is just a bit ridiculous, there are much better 3/4 time jazz pieces on records. I think when I was a teenager it had a white bird and some blue sky and so. Bird is great, maybe that much guitar solos is a bit too overwhelming. Then it was told it was from Birdland but later I learned it was at Rockland and I have the double CD. I love it, and so good british musicians on it.

As much as I remember Don Ellis had much followers in the 70´s but somehow I never heard it,

I have this on CD, I think the Conn reissues. It had not been reissued when it was recorded. The mood is quite similar to "Idle Moments" from the same period with the same musicians. Very nice music in my case more for back ground listening, since for my tastes the rhythm section Pearson-Cranshaw, Harewood" is a bit too mainstream-ish. I love Hutch´s following albums much more, especially one with Sam Rivers and Andrew Hill ....

Those were the days when you were waiting for the next album of Sonny Rollins and when you saw him live playing you would get live renditions of just recently recorded tunes. This is one of my favourite Milestone albums of Rollins. I heard him play the "Isn´t She Lovely" shortly after that recording, with Mark Soskin, Jerome Harris and the great Al Foster. Same was after the "No Question" album with Larry Corryell, just great times.

I´ve never heard that. Maybe only a duet would be a bit too spartanic for me. I think both at that time were a bit past their prime, at least Dizzy mostly had bands, where he was "supported" by fellow trumpetists like Sandoval, John Faddis etc, so I always wondered how they could manage to make a full album . I had seen a video of Diz with Max also from the 80s, where Diz had a big band and then a vintage bop quintet with the interesting choice of Mulligan on bs, and Max was on drums and it was a wonderful set of some of the best bop standards, almost as good as the "bop session 1975".

It is possible that I have this one somewhere. Then I had bought it mostly because of the rhythm section. I think I remember on this one is a composition titled "My Friend Stan" or so.... and I was somehow puzzled since this, like some other Art Pepper compositions from his last years is just too long. I think the longest theme stuff I soloed over is something like "Cheek to Cheek" with 72 bars, but this one seemed to have hundreds of bars, I couldn´t solo over such a long theme. I have some of those "Widow´s Taste" Pepper CDs and some stuff is fine, but sometimes he repeats too many phrases. As his alto sound, he tries to have a very piercing sound and seems to want to outdo Jackie McLean but I love Jackie´s Sound and his natural soul. Sometimes he tries to get modal like Trane...

same here !

Great ! Are there more photos from that date ? I mean also with Monk ?

Never saw that . Is this the original quartet or is it augmented and if yes, with whom. Where was the Bill Hardman discussion on the forum ?

Sorry I can´t follow the link properly , but tell me a bit about the music ...... Is it Horace Silver tunes on it. What instrumentation ? I don´t have very very much Horace Silver in my repertory, two things I LOVE to play is "Strollin´" with a fine quintet, or "No Smokin´" a thing you really can burn on it.

I can´t say it is my favourite guitar player or in general my favourite music. I think I saw "Oregon" once since it was on schedule of a jazz festival but can´t remember much. And I never was a real guitar fan with the exception of sounds of Charlie Christian, Kenny Burrell, Wes Montgomery and Mike Stern when he was with the 1981 Miles band...... Somehow I don´t really like acoustic guitar.

Not a recorded track but a live track: Two days ago I listened to the trio of my favourite Austrian pianist Oliver Kent ("Triple Ace" with Uli Langthaler who also plays with me on many occasions, and the great Serbian drummer Dusan Novakov) and they did a fantastic version of that old pop song "Tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree" , but as a fast waltz, with extended solos of highest quality and going modal with a bit McCoy feeling, but very very individual. I could have listened for hours only for this tune. As I mentioned in my thread "A Great Day...in Vienna" I have the highest praise for Oliver, such a wonderful musician an human being, and it´s a big honour for me that he praises my own playing too.

I kinda had blinders regarding other music than jazz, but once a chick took me to that film "Last Waltz" which I remember quite well, though sure I was more interesting in dating that chick than in the music. In any case .... a remarkable career but of course it´s a drag if you disband a successful unit as early as at age 35.....

fantastic !!!!

The high noon of ECM was also in the late 70´s . "We" were that gang that listened to more hard driving or hard funky stuff, Bird Diz Monk, Messengers from the oldies, VSOP from neo bop acoustic, Electric Miles and Ornette´s Prime Time, and there was another group, more the first "alternative thinking" folks with more medidation or so, who loved only ECM, Jan Garbarek, Eberhard Weber and so on. This was two different worlds.

Interesting descendance. So Lituania during that time was part of the URSS ? Yeah, I also knew people who took vodca for breakfast. But gettin´ blind is a drag, really, but remarkable that he still checked his team´s work. Blind from alcool ? I heard things like that. But sure it was other causes....

From the most popular early electric "jazz-rock" formations of the ex-Milesmen Chick Corea (RTF) and Herbie Hancock (Headhunters) I think I liked them both, but I dug Headhunters more at that time. The nonplusultra Chick Corea fans were other folks then that the Hancock-folks. I think the Chick Corea fans I got to know had a more philosophical thing goin on like "Why do I live" and "How can I become a better human being" while we Hancock-fans were more "earthbound" . But both were great. It was also that the ECM buyers were other folks than the CBS, BN and Prestige-buyers. I must admit it took me decades to dig again into Chick Coreas music, when my wife chose the newer 2000´s thing featuring Jean Luc Ponty as a winterholidays present for me. I was always delighted about such surprises, which pulled my coat into other directions, like when I got "Jimmy Giuffree trio in Graz" or "Stan Kenton live 1972" , things that until then were holes in my discography. Strange that I missed to see Chick Corea live with one exception when he sat in with the Miles Davis band. I´m still pissed off that I missed the larger RTF-world tour band in 78 with Dave Liebman in it. Didn´t even find a record of that stuff...... Cumbia was one of my favourite things then, This was the times when somebody like Mingus was alive and you could find him on all European festival gigs each year. I practically witnessed the live version of the touring band since they played that almost 25 minutes long version of it with his steady quintet (Walrath, Ford, Neloms, Danny) and THEN the record still wasn´t on the market. But Mingus announced it as "Something we just recorded, it´s from a Movie Score". I think I remember the large band studio recording was a bit slower than the live version, but also the live version had all them subtitles, first the drum settin the groove, then that call and response thing with the ostinato bass, then the straight ahead passages and the Db two beat based "Mingus Rap" where he snarls "Who said Mama´s li´l baby likes shortin´ bread ?" and the strong tutti sections after that and that incredible bass solo up into the highest possible register of the bass. Wonderful, and livelong memory from the teenage days.....