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I've got the Baker, Cole, Hartman, O'Day, and Fitzgerald (two) versions of "Lull". Ella did it on her ballad album with Getz and the Frank DeVol orch for Verve- "Like Someone In Love", which is how I became acquainted with it. I See Your Face Before Me from "Dippin'' is one of my favorite Mobley ballad performances from ANY period. There's also "The Good Life" from "Straight No Filter".

I agree with you. I've tried to rationalize the decision about the forwards and this is what I've come up with. Ching was picked as a replacement for McBride. If McBride goes down, really Ching is his best replacement. He's a bigger target than Twellman and also has that passing ability you mentioned so I can justify his inclusion. Right, and Ching is not a bad finisher at all (better than Wolff, that's for sure). Good point about Twellman's lack of speed (relatively speaking, of course). That and his lack of experience was probably the clincher. I like Noonan too, and I think he's only going to get better with time. Ralston is probably not as versatile or dangerous as Noonan, but I still think he was ahead of Pat in the pecking order in terms of his experience, his importance as a role player (putting in those great balls from the right flank), and the number of solid contributions he's made in MNT matches over the past few years. Hey, I'll take 'em no matter who scores 'em! I see your point, and I agree in principle, but in a tournament like this, I think all that matters is getting enough goals to win- whether they're coming from McBride and Johnson or Onyewu and Lewis (btw, did you see Eddie's free kick for Leeds this week?). Then again, maybe Cherundolo will get a few more like the one he scored against Germany in March. I think that's what everyone is wondering... I hope and suspect that he'll be ready to go after the camp in NC. With his experience, he can probably afford to rest any injuries more than some of the younger players. Looks really good Scott... I know you like SPEED! I think I'd try it like this: Keller Cherundolo, Onyewu, Pope, Bocanegra (or Lewis... tough call) Reyna, Mastroeni Donovan, Dempsey McBride, Johnson It's hard to leave O'Brien out of the starting lineup, and he may get the nod at the beginning due to his experience, but I think we're really going to need Dempsey's creativity and attacking ability. He's young, but he's proven his mettle. I'd put him out there. I still see Mastroeni as an important defensive player, and I think Beasley would serve better as a sparkplug type of reserve player for situations where we need to run at people. And you know what? I hope Josh Wolff proves us both wrong. He's got some good qualities, a lot of experience, and if the ball rolls right for him maybe he can put a few in the net. I'd be very happy for him, because I think he's a good guy who has worked hard. Fun to speculate about this, and man does it feel good to have some depth.

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I've been slowly pondering the recent announcement of the U.S. roster... For the most part, it was pretty clear who was going to make the team, but there were a few surprises (and from what I've read, I'm not the only one who is surprised). I don't want to criticize Bruce Arena too much, because he and his staff obviously know what they're doing... but just for the sake of discussion: Josh Wolff makes the squad while Taylor Twellman does not... although the experience factor is an obvious advantage for Wolff, I'm surprised and disappointed by this particular choice. Wolff may have certain skills that Twellman lacks, but what we're desperate for are people who can score goals. In my opinion, Twellman has far more ability to put the ball in the net. Period. Wolff is more of an assist man, and I think he already have enough of that coming from the midfield players and overlapping defenders. I'm very pleased to see Brian Ching make the team, although I didn't exactly expect it. I think his passing ability (and vision, which goes hand-in-hand with that) is superior to most of our other forwards, and if he gets a chance to play, it might pay off for us to have he and Donovan working their former magic together again. I expected McBride (obviously) and Johnson to make the roster. Along with Twellman and Chris Rolfe (who looks pretty good but is still a bit "green"), our other alternate is Connor Casey... which I do not understand at all. In the midfield, things were fairly clear-cut... the only surprise for me was Ben Olsen. I think he only made the team due to Steve Ralston's injury situation, which is unfortunate. I have to say, though, that Olsen performed very well when he got his chances to play this year. Armas and Noonan are good to have on the alternates list, and I hope they would be chosen before Chris Klein, if it becomes necessary to choose one. Things were a bit less obvious in terms of which defenders would make the team. I'm very satisfied with the selections (not a big fan of Berhalter, and the other alternate- Todd Dunivant- is promising but still relatively inexperienced). Too bad for Frankie Hejduk that he got hurt... would have been good to have him on the squad again. I'm not sure Chris Albright can replace him, but Albright may not even get to play. We have a good pool to choose from. I think Corey Gibbs' inclusion was a good move. Goalkeepers... basically a no-brainer. Kind of strange to have a starter who was on the roster for 1990 (! wow he's old ) 1998, and 2002 and finally getting the nod.

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I got the impression, watching the tv film, that the plan was to take back the plane, when one of their number said he had a pilot's license. That plan seemed to have been seen to be unworkable because the passenger's experience was on single engine planes. I didn't really hear/see it that way... I thought the real emphasis was on the communication from the families that the plane was headed for an occupied target. ... and potentially a lot of people on the ground.

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This is where you are flat out wrong. We KNOW that the passengers knew what had already happened. We KNOW from their families what motivated them to act. It was to PREVENT the terrorists from reaching their target. It may not have been "patriotic" but it was sure as hell self-sacrificing. The way it was presented in the A&E film, it was basically a common sense decision aided by the telephone conversations with family members- try to prevent the hijackers from taking the plane to their planned crash site. Nothing about "do this for America" or anything overtly "patriotic". I guess I'm just observing a distinction between being "patriotic" and being humanitarian. Also, the tv film gave a sense that they all (or most of them) knew they were going to die one way or the other. So, I'm not sure that "self-sacrificing" makes sense to me in this situation, in terms of the outcome of the action they decided upon. They died sooner than they would have otherwise, I suppose, but is that "self-sacrificing"? Not only that, but by choosing to try to take back the plane, they at least had some (albeit miniscule) chance of surviving.

Sorry, but I have to call BULLSH*T. Your post - #52 - came at 9:29 AM. It was edited at 10:19 AM. At 10:50 AM you posted: Regardless of what your earlier remarks were, you responded to my post this morning and then "upped" the thread thirty minutes after you edited your remarks and not even 90 minutes after you had posted them. I didn't notice the edit... sorry.

In case it helps, I just wanted to mention something. I was confused by the exchange between Dan and Patricia regarding how soon the thread was "upped". As I see it, you were both wrong (unless something is escaping me, there were approximately 1 hour and 21 minutes between posts 52 and 53). It appears that Dan was wrong when he said "30 minutes, but it also seems to me that Patricia was wrong (or misunderstood Dan's point regarding the elapsed time between 52 and 53). ??? I dunno. Is this important anymore? Probably not... BTW, I watched the A&E film, although at times I felt like turning it off and going to do something more relaxing. I thought it was fairly well done overall, and I completely ignored the commercials by either walking away for a couple of minutes or using the mute button. Basically, I tried to look for interesting moments in the script, and not get too wrapped up in judging the whole thing. I don't know where I stand on the whole "too soon" thing... it certainly brought back a lot of strong emotions, but that's what watching films like this is all about. I think I agree with Ray... after all, we all can choose for ourselves whether to watch these films, whether to pay to see them, whether to buy the books, etc...

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