Jim R

How about a Lexington & Concord? (Where's the Groucho Marx smiley when I need it...). What a weird concept. I guess side 1 would have a Blakey/Silver session. Side 2 something from Scott Hamilton and Warren Vache.. I was going to say Paul Revere and The Raiders... but I didn't (but now I did).

Hmmm... I wouldn't want to imply that those who perished in the two planes that hit the WTC were "wimps" because they didn't physically challenge the hijackers. Until that day, the traditional wisdom was that you DON'T physically challenge hijackers while a loaded plane is in the air. The only way that fighting back makes sense in that situation (due to the fact that you really don't know if the hijackers have guns, or bombs, and thus could be jeopardizing everyone on the plane) is if you KNOW they're planning to intentionally crash the plane (or kill everyone on board, one way or another). Nobody on those two planes could have known for sure that they were going to crash intentionally. The other situation was different. Due to the time delay, the people on the plane that went down in Pennsylvania had gotten the news of the WTC crashes by phone, and knew they would probably be SAVING lives by taking the risk. I hope this makes sense... my memory could be foggy after three years...

From a realistic and practical point of view, those who jumped from the WTC were absolutely doomed, and if they weren't beginning to burn to death, probably knew that they soon would. Also, some of them were probably in great pain from inflicted wounds. One of the firefighters on the CBS video said (and I'm paraphrasing) "How bad is it up there if the best option is to jump". Very bad, obviously... I don't necessarily agree with (or even understand) the general concept of suicide as a sin, but somehow I don't think this kind of suicide is really relevant to that debate (IMHO, and with all due respect to those who see all suicide as sinful).

The other day (after we dominated El Salvador) I vented some of my excitement about the U.S. team to my one of my brothers. He's a fan of several sports, but soccer has never moved onto his radar screen. He asked me, "Does the U.S. have any shot at winning the World Cup?" My first instinct was to say no, but I couldn't do it. I realize that it's quite a longshot for all but a few teams to even dream of reaching the final, and I told him that Brazil is still the biggest obstacle, but it's not impossible. Nobody can say for certain, and although there are a few teams that are still clearly much stronger, I think we're moving into an era where surprises are going to begin to occur more and more often. We saw it in Korea/Japan, and of course in this Summer's European Championship. In terms of the U.S., I think back to 2002 and the 1-0 quarterfinal loss to Germany, where the match could easily have gone either way... and, the memory of July 4, 1994 is still etched in my mind. Second round match, Stanford stadium, Brazil 1, U.S. 0. I admired a lot of the players on that team, but it just doesn't compare to the program we have now. And where would we be now if we hadn't drawn Brazil in that game, AND if we had a reasonably intelligent coach going into the '98 cup... Anyway, you can't blame a guy for dreaming. That's what the World Cup is all about, right? Even if the U.S. doesn't get past the quarterfinals in Germany, I'll be happy if we play well again and shock a few more people. But we'd better concentrate on El Salvador, Panama, and Jamaica first.

Ballads. More consistently great in that realm, I think. I prefer Cole over Sinatra in general, but that preference is probably more heavily influenced by Cole's strengths as a swinger as opposed to a balladeer.

Hey Scott, I've seen all three '06 qualifiers, and I agree with you (BTW are we the only two guys around here that care about the U.S. national team? ). The Jamaica match was kind of strange. I thought we played pretty well, but the Jamaicans were just getting so pumped up by their home crowd (like the Panamanians last night), they were tough to handle. I wasn't nearly as worried about us coming back against Jamaica as I was in that Panama game, though. Like you said, we stunk in the second half. We looked tired and apathetic (or maybe pathetic is a better word!). I could hardly believe some of the passes I was seeing (and the rain was no excuse for a lot of them). Arena didn't seem all that animated late in the match... as though he didn't give a crap either. Very odd. They were stubborn with all those long high balls, and it finally paid off, but I'm not so sure they shouldn't have worked harder at building things up offensively like they've done so well over the past several years. Cobi's goal was about as lucky a goal as I can recall, with Donovan mishitting his shot right into the puddle next to Jones. Amazing. We really didn't deserve that draw. The El Salvador match was ENTIRELY different, of course. I assume you saw that. I posted about Chings great goal on Brad's "Football" thread. That game had me so pumped for this Panama match, I could hardly wait those few days. What a gigantic letdown. I heard somebody on the FSW telecast say that Bobby Convey was allowed to go play iin an important match with his club side (info escaping me at the moment). I think the general attitude has been that the U.S. is now so "deep" that they can afford to use all kinds of guys in these qualifiers. That may sound obvious in a way, but I think we agree that we need to get our best team on the field as often as possible. Conner Casey impressed me with his hustle against El Salvador, but as you say, he ain't Brian McBride. With Ching up front as a big target/possesion guy, I would have thought that Donovan would be better up front with him. Those guys are a dangerous pair, as they've shown with the Quakes. Anyway, as someone who's been following the squad since the 80's, I'm just glad that we're having this conversation. B-)

The six 8/19/61 Jorgie's tracks Bill refers to are: all of you, heartstrings, summertime, back to bach to bock, (stella by) starlight, and round midnight. Unless I'm having one of my false recollections, I'm pretty sure Jorgie's is (was?) in St. Louis. I have the Jorgie's tracks on a CD released by Magnetic some years ago. The 1963 (NYC) Billy Taylor / Joe Williams material (there will never be another you, a beautiful thing, the more i see you, more than likely) was also combined with 4 Jorgie's tracks on a VGM CD some years back.

Maybe the shades HE'S been wearing aren't just your garden variety shades... in fact, maybe he's been ahead to a time where they restored his eyesight and gave him eternal life! I hope so. B-) BTW, I forgot to mention that I've seen many erroneous dates on CD's before, but I think this was the first time I've seen this particular gaffe. The person responsible is an idiot, of course... but then again... I had to think about it for awhile...

I just bought the new Shearing trio (Reg Schwager, guitar; Neil Swainson, bass) CD, LIKE FINE WINE on Mack Avenue, and I'm sitting here reading through the credits. It says here... "Recorded Oct. 27 & 28, 2004". Hold it- that's an error, right? I mean, we haven't reached that date yet, have we? (I gotta double check everything these days). Now, where the hell did I put my glasses...

Joe Negri, the proprietor of the make-believe music store, is an accomplished guitarist (don't know too much about him, though). I remember seeing a few interesting musical guests on the show 10-15 years ago when my kids were little. I've now forgotten who, except I do recall a very interesting segment with Yo Yo Ma. Fred was pretty hip. Bill, it's great to see you posting here again.

Nah, if that weird Dr. Rat post (now deleted) didn't kill it, you're not going to kill it. B-) Not into phychedelia myself, but there must be some Gil fans around here...

That's a Gibson ES-175, Gibson's workhorse model which was introduced in 1949. Plywood body, humbucking pickups. Actually, the axe on the cover of Raney's "Blues On A Par" is a different brand, and a different animal (a Gretsch acoustic archtop with a floating pickup, I believe). JIMMY Raney used a 175 like Bernstein's for awhile (that's probably what you meant, right Al?)(just nod and say yes).

Well, different pianist, and different leader, but I see your point. I have almost all of Bernstein's Criss Cross CD's, and that's a good one. I haven't been crazy about the writing on some of the more recent ones.

Mmmm... not Joe Pass. Joe Puma. Originally on Dawn 1118 (reissued on CD by Blue Moon). Rec. June 13, 1956. Musicians: Joe Puma,Mat Mathews,Oscar Pettiford,Whitey Mitchell,Shadow Wilson // Puma, Tom Stewart, Steve Lacy,Herbie Mann,Whitey Mitchell,Herb Wasserman Tracks: rose room,polka dots and moonbeams,rigamarole,sportin' with morton,wild kitten, soon,but not for me,rosalie ann CD bonus tracks: give me the simple life,indian blanket

1. Shampoo bottles always say "Lather, rinse, REPEAT". That doesn't mean you HAD to do it every time. They just want you to use more shampoo. Anyway, it could have been that, or the fact that you always set your blow dryer on "hot"... or using brushes with hard bristles... ===== 2. Why do all of your shirts say "Copyright Dr. Jazz" on the right sleeve? ===== 3. This is the actual cell where Andy and Barney always put Otis.

Thanks for posting these, guys. FWIMBW, here's the album index from the Mosaic: Pacific Jazz: ST-34 You Better Believe It ST-61 Moment Of Truth ST-80 Portraits ST-88 On Stage ST-20099 Feelin' Kinda Blues ST-20111 The Golden Sword ST-20118 Live And Swinging ST-20132 Everywhere World Pacific: ST-20135 California Soul ST-20160 Eternal Equinox

While I can sympathize with the problem of trying to locate information buried in threads, I would have to say that I don't think it's practical to try to create a new forum, etc. Trying to limit threads to lists (only) would not work IMO, because people will always post what they want to post where they want to post it. Also, I think part of the fun, and part of the usefulness of a place like this is that you can post a specific discographical (or reissue-related) question, and people will either steer you to a thread they're already aware of; or post the information you're looking for (whether from the internet, or from their own databases). I make a point of keeping an eye open for these questions, because I have saved a lot of artist/label discography websites, and I happen to have a database file which is easy to draw from (simple copy and paste). I enjoy putting it to good use. So, IMO, let's leave things as they are, and continue to help each other out. If somebody devises a plan to implement your idea, and it works, that would be fine too. B-)

ONLY FOR THE PURE AT HEART was released on Fable in 1998. (same band as on COBB'S GROOVE, sans Eric Alexander). Peter Bernstein shines.

How about a Lexington & Concord? (Where's the Groucho Marx smiley when I need it...).

Well, where's everybody gone?! I'd like to hear more observations about current events from the various points of view (and geography) of our members here. I haven't managed to follow the goings-on in the EPL (oops, I mean the "Barclay's EPL") so far, but I'm sure someone will fill us in. For better or worse, I'm still a diehard fan of the U.S. national team. That's where my heart lies... you should have heard me cursing at the TV (well, the referee, actually) yesterday, even when we were winning in dominant fashion over El Salvador. Did anybody see the match? Rising star Brian Ching's header inside the far post in the 5th minute was a thing of eternal beauty... a subtle redirection that required clinical precision. Landon Donovan slammed the door on the Salvadorans with a precise 20-yard bender with his left foot in the 69th minute. Some poor refereeing, high drama/gamemanship/dirty play by El Salvador, 12 minutes of stoppage time, etc, could not spoil the day for me. http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/040904/1/24gn.html

You must be talking about Bent Gørdønsen.

Maybe the "ø" was too confusing?

Now... if you found a Lexington / Liberty combination, you'd have a real scoop (and a potential scandal ).

I thought I answered the question...

I just flipped through the 1986 Sjøgren discography, and there are around 150 listed.