Jim R

Welcome Carl and Swinger, and welcome Mr. B!

What's an old photo of Robin Williams got to do with any of this? :rsly:

What do you think of acoustic goats in Jazz? I like everything I've heard (I've heard nothing), but I think I prefer them in the audience... even though they always seem to attract weirdos...

Shucks. When I saw this topic, I thought Willie Mays (or maybe Rick Barry) had come out of retirement.

DAMN! Where are my funking CRAYONS!?!

I voted for e-goat also. I'm not at all confused by any of this, which is a sensation that I'm getting more and more accustomed to. Somebody start another poll!

I am not confused by any of this, which is kind of scaring me. BTW, good one, Tom.

Actually all of the tracks from the 1 September 1960 date are on the Jackie's Bag RVG. The original Jackie's Bag only had Appointment in Ghana, A Ballad for Doll, and Isle of Java plus three tracks from 18 January 1959 with Donald Byrd. Maybe you're referring to the original LP, but FWIW, the original (1987) CD version of JACKIE'S BAG has all nine tracks also, which is why I never bought the pricey STREET SINGER import.

Well, DUH, Jim! (That "Jim" was aimed at me, not you, BTW).

R&B? Me three! BTW, Ray, I stumbled onto a reference to a musician (jazz pianist) name Jimmy Neely, so you were sort of onto something there. Not sure how "Big" he was, though.

WHAT the... I don't think I've ever heard of this Contemporary 10" LP. Listed in the Goldmine guide as THE TWO (I knew about THE THREE, but not THE TWO)... Not out on CD, is it?

http://www.swingin.gn.to go through all the (1) (2) ... numbered links at the top, there's many many more...

Big JIM McNeely? Is it possible that was a double typo, or am I just clueless? I've heard of Big JAY McNeely, of course... Thanks again for a fun test, Ray. There wasn't a lot for me to like on Disc 1, but Disc 2 was a different story. On Disc 1, I was intrigued with track 4- "Elm", which will probably cause me to investigate this album further. Anybody that liked this, if you're at all fond of Jobim, I would recommend checking out a CD called CASA by the group Morelenbaum2/Sakamoto (or the follow-up CD, A DAY IN NEW YORK). These include the vocals of Paula Morelenbaum, so they're different in that respect, and Jaques Morelenbaum is a cellist (not a violinist), but the overall sound is somewhat similar to this. Also, I learned that it's time I stopped neglecting Mose Allison. I enjoy his singing too, so I don't think I can go wrong with most of his work. I think this was a tasty piano track by Mose. Too bad it's not available on CD (?). Oh well, I'll find something good by him on CD. Biggest shock in the answers- that "Baltimore Oriole" was by the Four Freshmen. I thought it was a gag at first. Just not at all what I would have expected from the FF. At any rate, I thought the arrangement was interesting, but repeated listened only empasized the fact that I hated the lead vocal on this. Sounded like the guy was constip... oh, never mind! I'll bet I would like some of the "sappier" stuff in that set. I enjoy vocal harmony (even some barbershop stuff, in small doses), and I dig the Bossa Nova group "Os Cariocas", some of the Double Six of Paris stuff, etc etc... I haven't even identified which groups I like, as a matter of fact. There was a TV ad sampling that genre recently (either SBC or Southwest Airlines, both of which have used some pretty cool and obscure stuff) which knocked me out . As long as this type of thing is fairly hip, which I think some of it is, I dig it. Regardiing Disc 2, I'm amazed at the number of names here that I've never heard of before (Rene Hall/Willie Joe; Calvin Boze; Chuck E. Weiss; Raymond Scott; Bob Landers; and Melvin Smith). I also kind of wish you had provided more info on some of these artists and tracks, Ray The AMG links are kind of tedious, and some of them you didn't even give us that. But I know you said some of this stuff was pulled from some obscure sources. Just a minor complaint. The more I listened to Disc 2, the more I realized that for me, a little of this stuff may go a long way (to echo the comment about Slim Gaillard). Some of it gets me outta my chair, but the more I listen to it, the more the effect seems to wear off. Maybe I'm just getting too old. Anyway, I do want to pick up some R&B/jump/jive type of stuff, and this disc will inspire me to get on it. I wonder if that Gaillard Proper box would be overkill. Hell, I still haven't gotten around to picking up any Louis Jordan. I'm way behind in this category, despite having spent years as a blunatic back my college days. One thing that really impressed me on some of these old cuts was the sound quality. Maybe I remember hearing this stuff on scratchy LP's (and I actually used to collect some 78's during my days as a flea market hound, and had at least one Slim Gaillard 78). From the opening notes of "Hit That Jive, Jack", I was really groovin' to the sound quality, in addition to the music.

I'm with you, although to me the most annoying aspect is the vagueness that results from terms like this. What the hell are you supposed to say when someone asks "Do you like World Music"? Not as weird as the term "New Age", though.

Other than jazz, it's mostly Brazilian-and mostly Bossa, although even within my passion for Jobim, there's a great deal of material that's really not Bossa, and sometimes borders on classical. I still haven't really completely opened up to "classical" in general. That's a big category, though, obviously, and I do enjoy a taste now and then. I feel burned out on rock (haven't really enjoyed it for over 20 years now), and I went through a serious blues phase in the 70's, and really only care for it now in small doses. Like Tony C, I also go for some vintage pop, even some things that some would label "easy listening". Old soundtracks (Rodgers & Hammerstein, Bernstein, Frank Loesser, etc), pop vocalists... some of the stuff that transports me back to my youth (pre-Beatles invasion). As I was reminded in the current blindfold test, the area that I've neglected but want to get back into at some point is vintage R&B (pre-"soul", that is).

Good point. Even the tunes that have been done by others haven't been overplayed. I've always loved "Some Other Time" (from "On The Town"), for example. Bill Evans, Art Farmer, Irene Kral, and others have done nice versions of that. "Lonely Town" was recorded by Tommy Flanagan, Mel Torme, and Frank Sinatra (haven't heard those in a long time!). "Lucky To Be Me" is another great one, which was also done by Flanagan, Evans, and Kral, as well as Kenny Burrell, and Eddie Higgins.

And.... WHY is it a marvelous choice? Come on folks, let's have it! "Great/marvelous choice" is what you say before May 24th. Now it's After May 24th! I don't really like that cover photo, BTW. Doesn't Art look like he's ready to hit somebody over the head with a trumpet? Or worse yet, a fluglehorn?

O... ... kay... yeah, don't we all hate it when all those Miles tributes only focus on his pre-1966 recordings (oops, I mean 1965)... (uh, I meant to say 1964 of course)... Seriously, though, maybe I'm just not that clued in on the trends in Miles tributes... but I do think your post '64 (or whatever your cutoff date is) obsession is a little weird sometimes. Granted, you're not often anti- pre-'64, but in this case it almost feels that way. I mean, what IF somebody wanted to focus on his pre-'64 work because... that's what they wanted to focus on?! Seems perfectly acceptable to me... but then like I said I'm not aware of the historic record on this. Anyway, whatever- you're entitled to your point of view.

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I agree... I think that color belongs on a stratocaster.

Archtop.com isn't really (just) a "vintage site". He sells a lot of newer instruments as well. Anyway, if I had $8,000 lying around, I'm sure I wouldn't spend it on an instrument by an obscure builder. For that kind of money you could get a nice early Gibson Johnny Smith. B) I kind of had the same reaction to that Schneller, BTW. ...

Ah, you're the first one who caught this! I think I posted that Slim was on both 1 and 17, but 10 threw me... I had forgotten that he played piano! Not to mention vibraphone and tenor sax!!

I feel the same way. I listened to this again last night, and before opening this thread, the same thoughts occurred to me. This is a masterpiece of a session, and along with BENNY GOLSON'S NEW YORK SCENE (Contemporary, 1957); Jimmy Cleveland's CLEVELAND STYLE (Mercury, 1958); and Milt Jackson's BAGS' OPUS (also on United Artists, and recorded just a few months after MODERN ART), is a classic example of the great chemistry between Famer and Golson. It's really a great Bill Evans "document" too. He was working in a variety of settings and with a variety of people around that time- Eddie Costa, Hal McCusick, Cannonball, George Russell, Chet, and of course Miles- and his work on MODERN ART stands up nicely to most everything he did in 1958. I think my favorite track might be "Fair Weather", probably because I love Golson's writing so much, and also because this tune is relatively obscure.

Hi Jean-Philippe, As Dan says, I do love guitars, but I'm not sure I can give you much specific help here in terms of which model(s) to consider. I have never tried any of the instruments you listed, because I no longer go to guitar shops very often. Anyway, I can offer some general advice. First of all, you should definitely test as many guitars as you can. If it were possible, I would urge you to try some used guitars in addition to the new ones. Archtops very often sound better, feel better, and perform better after they have been played for a considerable amount of time- especially if they have been set up well by skilled repairmen. Secondly, don't "think" too much about action, quality of construction, etc. etc. Find something that feels good (and of course looks good ) to YOU, and comes closest to achieving the sound that you want to make. Find a guitar that you really will look forward to taking out of its case every day. The most important thing is that your guitar helps to inspire you to make music. I hope this helps.

Wow, THANKS, Dan!!... that's really... ... oh, uh, never mind... I mean... um... HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Jim!