Jim R

I noticed that, too. And what about: 53. The Birth of Soul: The Complete Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Recordings, 1952 - 1959, Ray Charles A 3-CD box set is an "album"?

I'm with you on that, but just be content that you've got THE hippest avatar on the site. B)

If they had presented it as "The 500 Best-Selling Albums of All Time", I could at least respect it at face value. As for Stevie Ray... I always liked him too, but if Albert King BARELY cracked the top 500... I'm sorry, but Stevie wouldn't quite belong on there, IMO. I don't see Freddie King or Buddy Guy on there, either...

Jim, the change had taken effect when I logged on today, and "Today's Active Topics" now has a great new streamlined appearance for me. I just wanted to thank you again for offering to do this.

In a nutshell. Carole King- #36. B.B. King- #141. Just one example of why these things are depressing to look at. BTW, Claude, there are not two, but three Eminem titles listed.

Exactly. Why worry about any other choices? While everybody else at our gatherings say "I'll have a little sliver of each", I bide my time and then POUNCE on the pecan! BTW, I voted for "Don't know- never had sweet potato pie". Love sweet potatoes, just never been offered the pie...

Jim, you can add my name to the list as well. Thanks.

BUY that CD! Walton was not part of the original LP, but he played on alternate versions of two of the songs from it (the Rhino CD includes 8 bonus tracks). FWIW, here's a selected C.W. discography: J. J. Johnson- The Complete Columbia J. J. Johnson Small Group Sessions Kenny Dorham- Blue Spring Jimmy Heath- Really Big Clifford Jordan- Spellbound The Jazztet- Big City Sounds Benny Golson- Take A Number From One To Ten / Free The Jazztet- The Jazztet And John Lewis Jimmy Heath- The Quota Clifford Jordan- Mosaic (A Story Tale / Starting Time) The Jazztet- At Birdhouse Sonny Red- Red, Blue & Green (The Mode / Images) Curtis Fuller- Soul Trombone (The Jazz Clan) Clifford Jordan- Bearcat Jimmy Heath- Triple Threat Art Blakey- Three Blind Mice, Vol. 1 Blue Mitchell- The Cup Bearers Art Blakey- Caravan Donald Byrd- Blackjack Art Blakey- Ugetsu Blue Mitchell- The Complete Blue Note Recordings Of Blue Mitchell, 1963 to 1967 Art Blakey- Golden Boy Milt Jackson- Jazz 'Round Midnight Eddie Harris- Cool Sax, Warm Heart / Cool Sax From Hollywood To Broadway Lee Morgan- Charisma Lee Morgan- The Rajah Eddie Harris- The Tender Storm Milt Jackson- Born Free Art Farmer- Plays Great Jazz Hits Donald Byrd- Slow Drag Cedar Walton- Cedar! Pat Martino- Strings! Cedar Walton- Spectrum / (The Electric Boogaloo Song) Stanley Turrentine- Another Story Sonny Red- Sonny Red (on Mainstream) Art Farmer- Gentle Eyes Art Farmer- Homecoming Dexter Gordon- Tangerine Dexter Gordon- Generation Cedar Walton - Naima Milt Jackson- Goodbye Art Farmer- To Duke With Love Clifford Jordan- Firm Roots Art Farmer- Yesterday's Thoughts Milt Jackson- Centerpiece (Live at The Kosei Nenkin, Vol. 2) Milt Jackson- At The Kosei Nenkin (Vol. 1) Art Farmer- The Summer Knows Clifford Jordan / Cedar Walton- The Pentagon Philly Joe Jones- Drum Songs (Advance / Drum Song) Dexter Gordon- Gotham City Junior Cook- Something's Cookin' Cedar Walton- Among Friends Slide Hampton Quintet- Roots Dexter Gordon- Round Midnight (Film Soundtrack) Dexter Gordon- The Other Side Of Round Midnight Frank Morgan- Lament Cedar Walton (Sweet Basil Trio)- St. Thomas Kenny Burrell- Sunup To Sundown Stanley Turrentine- More Than A Mood Cedar Walton- Live At Maybeck Recital Hall, Vol. 25 Cedar Walton- Manhattan Afternoon Milt Jackson- Reverence And Compassion Cedar Walton (Sweet Basil Trio)- You're My Everything Milt Jackson- The Prophet Speaks Dave Young- (w/Oscar Peterson,Cedar Walton,Tommy Flanagan,John Hicks, Mulgrew Miller) Two By Two Eric Alexander- Man With A Horn

The set includes a 119-page, hardbound booklet, with discographies of the sessions; an essay about the composers by Benny Green; a history of the songbooks by John McDonough; a handful of color or b&w photos; and also an alphabetized index of all the songs included in the box. I bought mine used a few years after it was issued, and I've seen a number of used copies in the years since. So, keep your eyes open- you can save yourself a whole lot of $ by getting a used set. I haven't owned any of the more recent individual CD issues, so I can't offer any help regarding the sound quality differences.

I'm willing to let a lot of things slide, but I still recognize a whole lot of abuse going on. I hold on to a few pet peeves, though. One of them is the widespread misuse of the phrase "I could care less". If you could care less (than you actually do), that means you CARE (more than you otherwise might). On the other hand, if you couldn't care less, that means.... YOU COULD NOT CARE ANY LESS THAN YOU ACTUALLY CARE!!! (...sorry, didn't mean to yell. ) As for this thread.... I could care less, which might explain why I posted.

I'm sure you probably realize this already, but I felt a need to say it anyway- don't lump ALL of Trane's Impulse recordings into one basket. Among the first ideas that would occur to me if I were in your situation: JOHN COLTRANE & JOHNNY HARTMAN; BALLADS; DUKE ELLINGTON & JOHN COLTRANE.

My wife entered my life almost 30 years ago, and I can not remember what life was like before we met. I also can't remember very well what life was like before our kids came along (our oldest is 16). Oh... yeah, we had two dogs, and THEY were our "kids" back then (do I get any points for remembering that, Al?). Anyway, I know what you mean, and I agree- life had far less meaning before. I mean, all I did back in the dark ages was collect music.......... ........... hmm, maybe things haven't changed THAT much! BTW, our son just hosted a "sleepover" (for about the third time). I'm still trying to figure out how we parents get talked into allowing this to happen! (they went to sleep a 4 am)

Boplicity put this out on CD in the late 80's. In 1994, it was released again on CD by Skylark Jazz, titled WAY PAST MIDNITE. The Skylark issue includes 9 extra tracks, which are a pretty dubious. They're labeled with these terms: "be-bop alternate track", "west coast unreleased mix", "unreleased be-bop take", and "west coast unreleased be-bop take". At least a couple of them seem identical to the master takes, except that the alternates are faded out after Dexter's solo. In addition to that, a couple of titles are mixed up. As if all this wasn't bad enough, there are some cheesy attempts to enhance the artwork (including the use of the original cover photo with little pink and turquoise stars added); and there's a bogus looking Good Housekeeping-type "seal of quality" on the back. The production, digital remastering AND the artwork were all done by one Wayne Stierle. Anybody know anything about this guy? BTW, the Sjøgren discography mentions four tracks having been issued in "edited versions" on different Dootone issues (the orinal Dootone # was 207, and the others referenced were 384 and 856). This is all greek to me, since the only LP version I ever owned was the Boplicity issue.

This board was running SO slow last night, ("HOW SLOW WAS IT") ... It was so slow, I almost got the urge to put on a Shirley Horn CD. Today does seem to be better.

Sort of like some of those surprises (track #7 comes to mind) on Tony's test?

As I told Dan privately some weeks ago (when discussing where the test was going after my turn was over), I think it's a good idea, but really wouldn't be unhappy if we continued with the "shoulder tap" process. In other words, I'll happily go along with the majority opinion.

* Barney Kessel, 1923 Joe Pass, 1929 ============ afaik, *Herb Ellis (see 1921) and *Mundell Lowe (see 1922) are still alive...

Many thanks, MIke. I had to go out today while it was on, but I managed to record much of it with my portable MiniDisc machine. I'm listening to it now, and in a few short minutes I've already learned a few things, of course in addition to enjoying the great music (some of which I already have in my collection).

Hmm... Rooster, I'm unclear who you're referring to, which makes me a little uncomfortable. Anyway, I want to go ahead and clarify about my post. My intent was not to single out undergroundagent, or to "bash" him. I'm actually more on his side of the argument on this particular incident, but at the same time that doesn't mean he's totally blameless (and YES, I know he apologized already, which was cool- I was just suggesting ways to avoid things like this happening in the first place). I probably should have made it more clear, but my comments were not just directed at undergoundagent, but universal. I was trying to suggest some positive ideas, and add a little levity. "So what if the guy's a little direct with his PM's, and a little light on the emoticon usage. That's just the way some people are". I disagree in general, although the key factor would be what "a little direct" involved (again, without focusing just on this specific incident). As for smilies, I don't mean to go on a crusade, BUT... I know some people hate 'em, but it's a simple fact that to refrain from using them can lead to problems (if the person being sarcastic or "direct" doesn't consider or care about the potential reaction). The problems can sometimes be easily cleared up (and sometimes not), but why not avoid them in the first place. "Just the way some people are"... true, but it's harder to understand and interact with that type of person via a computer. Sorry for any confusion. I didn't intend to choose sides, but I can see how it might have looked that way since I focused on one person's actions.

Call me idealistic, naive, anal, whatever... but there's a reason for the existence of smileys. IMO, you just can't go around being sarcastic in the cyber world without being very careful. You can sometimes be sarcastic or mock-combative with someone you "know" (never met personally, but interacted with extensively via the boards and/or e-mail) with the intent of soliciting a chuckle, and have it backfire. I've seen that sort of thing occur many times at Jazz Corner, where smilies are frowned upon (am I a genius with the puns, or what? B) ). Most people are too terse with their messages for their own good, IMO. So, I say go ahead and adopt the obnoxious/tough guy attitude... just take the extra .7 seconds and add a You'll still be a man, and the average person will have a higher appreciation for your sorry ass.

I was just listening to an old CD from the 80's, and I suddenly became curious- EXCLUDING all of the jazz that had previously been out on LP over the years, what were some of the first jazz CD's ever issued? In other words, contemporary jazz recorded at the time (mid-80's?). Also, what labels were the first to issue this music on CD, and what year would that have been? I didn't get a CD player until 1990 (I had so many LP's, I thought for awhile that I would never go the CD route ), so I have little memory of the beginnings...

It's called ALL MEMBERS. It came out on CD in 2001. Very nice quintet, with Jimmy Heath in the front line along with Sleet. Rhythm section is Kelly, Ron Carter and Cobb. Sleet was a solid player, and I recall liking it quite a bit, but it's been awhile- time to spin this again.

Brownie, that's the one. I was thinking Italy for some reason, but your description sounds like the one I was thinking of. As I recall, the copy I saw on eBay was going for something like $175 - $200. This was about four years ago.

FWIW, the one I have with Prestige/Riverside/Atlantic covers is titled NEW YORK HOT. Also, "Collins & Brown" is the publisher in the UK (my BN Vol. 1 was published by C&B). The others I have (besides the Japanese ones) are U.S. publications by Chronicle, in San Francisco. I just noticed that all of the 12 X 12 Marsh/Callingham books were distributed in Canada by Raincoast Books in Vancouver. Coincidentally, I was in Vancouver in the Summer of 2002, and found my copy of BN Vol. 2 in one of the bookstores there (don't recall the name) where they had about 10 copies at a discounted price. Might be a good town to conduct a search...

This may have been discussed before, but I'm just curious how most of you go about using the board. I thought about making a poll out of this, but I'd rather focus on the "why" rather than the "what". I prefer using "Today's Active Topics", which serves as my log-on page, and a constant "base" between opening various threads and posting. Unlike some other sites, it's very easy here to return to T.A.T., thanks to the link being provided all over the place. I have it set so that topics from the current day as well as the previous day are accessible. This usually gives me quick access to about 4 pages (which I have set up to include 40 threads each) of recently active topics. I used the same basic procedure at the BNBB, except for the early years. Before I started using T.A.T., I always found it tricky to remember where (and when) I had posted, and would sometimes lose track of discussions I wanted to follow. So, what's your routine?