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& because the great "The African Game" album on Blue Note that Bruce put out isn't on youtube...

I'd say that's a medium sized box that is worthwhile; it might even include vocal texts, as their Messiaen set did? Michael Korstick's piano concerto set on CPO is great, as is nearly evertyhing Korstick records, estimable Alun Francis cond. Francis' symphony set on CPO is also worthy btw unlike the Quatour Parisii's string 4-tet cycle, which is worthy and quite unavailable though hopefully will be reissued. I'm a Schoenberg fanatic-- he's both underated and frequently misapprehended (thus seems overrated, more doctrinaire than he ever, in fact, was)-- but that's hardly to the exclusion of Villa-Lobos and Milhaud, who never played tennis with George Gershwin.

Spon, you should have ALL Roussel as a matter of course, including "Padmavati" & the melodies. I like your Martinu list but will disagree with the 'wrote too much' though I once thought that myself. But no. You're a healthy, fecund composer-- you compose. Just the ballets, operas and cantatas alone make for a world class composer and if he 'reverts' to 'formula' at certain times in certain works... who doesn't? And, thankfully, Martinu was far from stuck within or inhibited by Austro-German monumentality etc.

Martinu mostly fantastic in all forms but there are masterpieces in ballets, cantatas, operas, serenades ++ that are relatively little known though nearly all have been recorded for Supraphon. Recently deceased, largly estimable if a smidgen dull sometimes in "early music" harpsichordist/conductor Christopher Hogwood was a GREAT Martinuvian... in a few works possibly even my fave Martinuvian but there's so much worth hearing, the symphonies very good, not 'the best,' cello concertos, all concertante violin works, goodly amount of piano music & concertos... VERY interesting "jazz" & sports (really) influences in '20s, '30s too worth pondering, likewise transmigration of Czeck folk tales, literature, folk musics etc. Jiri Belokalvek redoubtable Super! Děkuji!!!!!

this reminds me in world with Braxton Bird (not my fave AB) & Braxton operas (always interesting, often great), someone, Braxton or otherwise, should commit to & extend etc these charts, this concept--

carl

sonny & linda krishna bhatt & anindo chatterjee granted such could/should happen anywhere it's the WKCR interviews archive that's most gone in the air etc shit there must be dozens of hours with Ben Young & Bill Dixon, somewhere I have an excellent Steve Kuhn WKCR interview re: Coltrane etc etc

uh, whatever one did or didn't pledge to WKCR 10 or 20 or 30 years ago-- when the station's internet presence was either less/non-existant-- isn't precisely relevant today, is it? Nor has WKCR's policy re: sports v. other programming remained static in that period, has it? And even 10 years ago, WKCR didn't have the technology to broadcast thing & stream one other(s), did they? *** the great Sharif Abdus-Salaam announced this evening (Thursday 21 May) that Phil Schaap will be returning to the air Tuesday. He didn't offer any reason for Phil's absence.

hep & to clarify, I was using yr question to make 'public comment,' wasn't assuming it was yr opinion. The criticisms of Schaap-- bits of which are at times justified (he's a very eccentric guy, as anyone with his life and obsessions-- starting with many of his best friends being old black guys from the time he was a kid-- would be), most picayune, overblown, irrelevant compared to what he's done, offers, has encouraged in others etc, be it acolyte student DJs, the years he booked West End Club, the halycon days of Verve label reissues etc. Not to imply Schaap himself is irreplaceable-- he is unique & at his best, terrific (who else will always give you overlay of jazz & Civil Rights history as matter of course?) but the overall commitment of WKCR to jazz, classical, Latin, African, reggae, blues, arts, community news, etc is most important... But if Columbia U starts trying to push their goddamn sports because, you know, 'the brand'... Not sure why they don't broadcast more sports on internet stream and keep airwaves other, more needed, less served, capacious etc but... That WKCR exists as it does is MUCH to Columbia's credit!!!! of course, let's hope they realize its value and the immense goodwill it brings to the university community. And again, just Schaap's and Ben Young's interview archives alone are astounding & tho' the most prolific because of their time there, from the early-mid 1970s onwards there tons & tons of amazing inc., numerous 'new music' & avant jazz performances. Schaap disappearing without explanation and nearly without acknowledgment-- some DJs have noted, others haven't-- might be something Personal but it might a Something Else. Not to mention Bach-fest though I can't say I actually like a good % of old style performances they play. Schaap regularly does a Jazz meets Bach, Bach meets Jazz show for the fest that's excellent though he's also done one on St Matthew's Passion, which he's apparently an adept of.

Negative from whom? Shitheads who just want to hear the fucking music, man? Which is asinine, anyone can just listen to the music, man, anytime. How many minutes/hours of Bird interviews-- i.e. Charlie Parker speaking-- and how many hours of interviews of musicians who played with and knew Bird have you (or anyone) heard on your (anyone's) happy hoss horsewhit "public" radio station? Negative from one guy who had an interesting career in radio & other forms of jazz presentation 40+ years ago? The archive of WKCR interviews alone-- jazz & classical especially but also other arts, some politics, news etc-- is astonishing in depth & breadth & ** any ** signs that such is threatened, inc. Schaap's vanishing, are worrisome. So far, save the Ben Young departure noted by Clifford above and the unprecedented interruption of a birthday broadcast for a sports (or any) talk show, all is mostly as it's been but that doesn't mean it ** has ** to stay that way. Q: how many times have you heard 3+ hour interviews with Roswell Rudd in the last few years? Karl Berger? Ras Moshe? Pheeoan Aklaff? George Lewis? Adam Rudolph? Matt Shipp? MONTHS and MONTHS of dissection of all known recordings of Cecil Taylor 1970-1974? Tons and tons of stuff I didn't hear, am forgetting etc. How long did YOUR local radio station celebrate the life of Ronald Shannon Jackson? Etc etc. WKCR's opera & contemporary classical programming-- check the latter out, JSngry, weekdays 9:30-12 and 3-6, not always because depending on show they might feature diff period or 'contemporary improv' etc-- are alone invaluable and blow any fucking 'classical' station proper (sic) in the U.S. away.

7/4, no, he's definitely missing and it's been noticed. The robot or purposefully non-referential Facebook postings a smokescreen of some kind. I don't know if you noticed but the Duke Ellington b-day broadcast was interrupted from 9-10 PM for the motherfucking weekly sports talk show... do you ever remember something like that happening before? Not suggesting that and Schaap's vanishing are related but both Ominous Signs. A very reasoned but irritated person posted copy of their letter to WKCR board re: Duke b-day on Schaap's facebook btw. The WKCR policy towards sports versus other programming has varied over the years but it's always, horribly, the 9000 lb gorilla in room. If (the rightfully beloved) Sharif Adbus-Salaam doesn't say anything tonight on his program... I'd start worrying.

Respectfully, except for "Augie March," maybe, in parts, Bellow is insufferable and not worth yr time (unless you're already there). Uber-WASP William Gaddis a much funnier, capacious comic "Jewish" writer too. "Augie" at least has verve (if not David Stone Martin, but kinda Oscar Peterson-like, actually, when inspiration flags) & was of interest to superior others... the correct answer is... Theodore Dreiser The Titan Theodore Dreiser The Titan Theodore Dreiser The Titan it's not quite as great for Chi as Dreiser The Financier is for Philly (the Titan is continuation of that story) & American lit generally but still a masterpiece; the Chicago parts and the rest of Sister Carrie also essential if you've not (re-) read recently. If anyone cares to patronize Dreiser, Geoffrey O'Brien's piece on An American Tragedy is useful antidote-- http://www.bookforum.com/archive/sum_03/obrien.html AAT being, among numerous other things, greatest of all possible (white) crime fiction, every half- (& often less) ass "noir" or "hardboiled" this/that I myself have sometimes indulged laughably callow by comparison. The movie's lousy btw tho' Sergei Eisenstein's unproduced treatment of same is itself pretty amazing. I'm forgetting something non-Dreiser too, lemme ponder... Available audibooks for Dreiser mostly excellent btw if you indulge or want to try. *** having pondered: Studs Lonigan maybe more "important" than "great" but eh-- or feh!-- read at least the first volume, it was major totem to x # young writers 1930s-1950s... Frank Norris The Pit also though I'd recommend other Norris first and Dreiser before that though McTeague ---> Sister Carrie a hot combo if you wanna recreate early 20th c. habits. You well know the Stroheim "Greed" story already I presume. John L's answer swell & more embracing than mine, wish there was more, better non-Irish ethnic, black. modernist Chicago novels etc but... maybe someone else will make case for Algren? i'm (at least) agnostic myself but never heard reason to be otherwise.

Nothing on his FB page about his disappearance from the airwaves. Weird. And note, NONE of those posts make any reference to the present; show us a picture of today's newspaper or mention a minor league baseball score from last night or something to show us Schaap is actually alive and/or not kidnapped. I'm exaggerating, slightly, but not much. If he's not back and if Sharif doesn't say anything tomorrow... Something Is Up. Folks could ask Ben Young but... I don't know how much he could or would want to say.

Fast, I don't think it's been a month but at least a couple weeks. He was on for the Mingus and the Ellington birthdays, right? Last week I did hear I a Bird Flight student fill-in say Phil would be in sometine next (now this) week but yes, otherwise it Is A Mystery with no explanation even hinted at. Note also Schaap's good friend & everybody's, Sharif Adbus-Salaam didn't say anything last week as he usuaully would if Phil just had cold or other illness. Marcello, thanks for headsup on Facebook, which I otherwise don't look at but there's no evidence those are 'new' as opposd to pre-made but recent postings. On the other hand, promoting the archives of his site and not addressing his WKCR absence is Strange. Is Phil on vacation? Some serious illness or operation? Suspended?! Quit? Sulking? I never understood the gripes over Bird Flight-- anyone wants to listen to just Bird, the CDs (and now downloads) are there, have at it. The obsessive etc is what's compelling & in the past, interviews with Bird associates. Especially when most people in the U.S. are supposed to be "grateful" for some college or erstwhile "public" radio playing jazz 1.5 times a week, once on the weekends and once at maybe 3 AM on alternating Thursdays. Schaap's Traditions in Swing on Saturdays is often excellent, likewise his Monday Out to Lunch. I'm less than thrilled about the Wynton Marsalis affiliation but... what can you do? That's the reality he and others' in New York jazz have to live with. If anyone is on Twitter I wonder if asking WKCR or WKCR Jazz there would elicit a response?

Lots of people are called "giants", but few truly are. B.B. King was a gaint, and you don't kill a giant, they don't die, they just move on to the next phase. RIP to a genuine giant.

thank you. i gotta head out now but i'll bring back black & white cookies for anyone who wants-- lemme know.

Of course there are correct answers; we're talking musicology, not your favorite cookie. And while Beethoven has melodic moments etc... his genius is motivic And while Schubert did some astonishing things with developement, his genius is melodic These are the correct answers. Where one might 'rank' these in world historical competition Chuck posits is subjective, si, but blurring bar lines of musical construction/comprehension is the answer to nothing. And because I hestitated to start with even, say, Buxtehude or Handel... and this not even broaching the madrigals (which is as misleading as considering Schubert without lied...)

if not Schubert-- and the correct answers are probably Schubert and Rossini-- then Prokofiev who did so many things so well he's often underrated; Serge encore at 40:30 mark Gilels Three Oranges obviously not most melodic compared to hours of melody in the ballets etc but worth seeing anyway Ornette yes Ayler no

MUCH better than most 'star' pianists of her generation & after, her perspicacity reflected in relative modest discography, repertoire could/should have been (much) more venturesome in both 19th/20th c. esp. since she won Busoni competition, didn't even record Villa-Lobos 11, a goddamn shame, still her late period chamber programmes etc estimable within bounds, her Ravel & Prokofiev are ace, etc... whether you need want the same goddamn few handfuls of works as ten jillion saps perform/record... i dunno. Certainly any Argerich is better than all Perahia (say) but when there's so much else to learn... strength: beat cancer. weakness: repertoire. Christina Ortiz / John Neschling Argerich / Previn

If you only want "great" albums in your collection, don't bother. If you don't mind forking out small beer for an album that's merely enjoyable, and honest though commercial, pick up "Everybody come on out" or "Use the stairs" both on Fantasy LPs which I'm sure you can find cheap, or "More than a mood" (Music Masters), which is straight ahead stuff with Freddie Hubbard (and that one's deleted, too). MG --->

Oh, I agree "Lady In Satin" the original album is very interesting-- and a worthwhile listen in terms of biography-- musical & otherwise-- & the biz she worked with, struggled within. Skepticism born of obvious fact that how/why are two discs of outtakes only now emerging one of thee icons 20th c. American music, one with substantial non-jazz audience.. It seems highly unlikely this material wasn't looked at previously, though it's not like much was learned-- not like much could be learned-- from all those Commodore alternate takes, save that third take of "He's Funny That Way" when Eddie Heywood quotes the Chico Marx version of "On The Beach at Bali Bali"--