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also, possibly, one track on the Complete Live in the Village (or whatever it's called) dbl CD on Impulse! Isn't it Cal, with one "l"? I love the Going Home/Spirituals album and think it might have done for albert what Plays Elington did for Monk. Would really like to see it reissued along with the originals from the same session(s)...2 LPs would do it I think.

I almost qualify myself since I now have a CDR of my sideman gig with Perry Robinson sitting in (along with a couple of other Sound Sunday Pleasure gigs). I just turned 50. Now I am mostly off mic and nothing special when you can hear me, but still... seriously, my vote for the guy I'd most like to hear a few years earlier than the first recordings we have is Lester Young...didn't he claim to have done something round 1932?

Forrest, trees...

This reminds me of when Packard bought Studebaker (not the other way 'round) and then found out just how sick Studebaker really was (except Packard was the high end of that deal). Not sure which American auto independent that would make Monkey Wards (to stretch an already iffy metaphor). I don't shop at Wallmart either (been in one or two). Target is my lowend all purpose retailer of choice, sears once in a while, all the K Marts I've been in recently just felt poor and chaotic. Wal Mart does understand their market, great location choices and playing to their psychological needs. I'll even go to Pennys (usually small town ones that feel like you're in a time warp) before WM, but that's just me. Has anyone studied the correlation of retailer v. political preferences?

Have heard and liked, but I think the comparison to Albert is a little over stated. Their is a connection but Vernard is v. much his own guy, for better or worse, and God knows Albert was totally his own guy...

I still vividly remember the Grey Cup the year we moved to Canada, 1966. It was Saskatchewan v. Ottawa and I just knew the Roughriders were gonna win...

Well, I was going to pick Capt. Marvell for my AOW when and if I ever got to do one but now I'll have to pick something else. But I am certainly glad to see the positive response this fine album has gotten here. This is what my friend Charlie came back with when we turned him on to Kinda Blue back in college, shortly after Capt Marvel came out I'd guess. Surely the delay in releasing this must account for its not having a greater rep. And just as surely Sony/Columbia/whoever-the-hell-they-are-now should just go ahead and release whatever live stuffs they have. I've got the aforementioned Montreaux (mine's Polygram) (minus Airto, if memory serves) and Lotus (Vitous subbed for Clarke) live things - they rock but lack the texture that Williams + Airto gives CM. That and my preference for Stan G over Joe F (not that I don't like Joe...) makes this my fav over Return to Forever and Light as a Feather. That and my dislike of Scientology lyrics. But it's all good, and I'd include Joe F's Outback (w/Corea & Elvin) and Moon Germs (w/Herbie H, Stan C, and Jack DeJ) in that "all". To me calling this Fusion is pretty noninformative: it's not like Bitches Brew or later R to F, or whatever else you'd be lumping it in with. People like Heaney who just throw up their hands and close their ears at the mere mention of a Rhodes or an electric bass are missing out on some good stuffs here. I haven't gotten the current CD with its bonus cut yet, but it's on the short list...

I'd say that if you like Michael Sampson's role in the Village concerts, get more Ayler that he's on, say Live at Slugs or Lorraich/Paris, but if it's the dixieland on acid aspect that you dig, then Bells or Spirits Rejoice would be good choices. The F de M and Love Cry are also worthy but not all that much like the Village Concerts. By "early stuff" (that you don't like) do you mean the trio with Peacock and Murray or do you mean the records with various Scandinavians playing standards? The Holy Ghost box has lots of excellent performances by the band with Michael sampson in its various incarnations but it is a serious chunk of change...

I think it could be better than back in the day. Not will be, but could be if they stay sober and learn to co-operate...and write some new material so they won't be trapped into re-creating the past. although "Those Were the Days" would kinda make more sense now...

I'd like to do one sometime, have a couple of albums in mind....

Not sure if this was a new episode or a repeat but the other day I saw an amusing Everybody Loves Raymond where he and his brother were competing (as always) to do a better job of replacing their father's long lost LP collection. Ray got new CDs which dad refused to listen to and brother got garage sale LPs. Both jazz and vinyl were portrayed as the province of geezer cranks and in course of the show it came out that it was Robert not Ray who had destroyed dad's LPs 30+ years ago. I thought it was quite funny, in a painful sort of way, and thought otheres here might agree. At the end an LP of Webster is put on and dad drifts off to oblibvion.

"My telephone number is Cherry I-8-1-2" as sung ever so salaciously by Big Joe Turner. [i don't think we have a smilie that quote fits...]

Fortunately for my wallet, I didn't like his regular larger working band much. Definately dug the solo Monk and duets with Mal though...

I think Ayler shoulda been on this pole, don't know that I woulda voted for him but he was the most Albertian tenor ever...

Nice tangent guys, no really, but can we get this back on track? Still exploring the box, lot's of nice stuff, particulary dug the Live trio stuff from '64. Can't help thinking 'what if' and wishing things could've gone better for Al & Don, although it seems they played more gigs than I had been led to believe...course it doesn't say if or how much said gigs actually paid. Does any one know how extensive Coltrane's financial help to Albert was? Any further thoughts on the wealth of music? What about the new Live at the Foundation de Whosey Whatsy album currently featured on the ESP site, is this previously unissued? Music is the healing force of the universe, at least Albert's is, IMHO.

My first 'real' job was driving taxi cab in Saskatoon. Lots of great stories from that, but my favorite concerns my late brother, Ian, who also drove for Fast Freddie breifly. On his first day on the job he'd made sure he had a good new map on the dash. He knew where pretty much everything in S'toon was, but wasn't that great with names and numbers (dsylexic). So he gets his first , maybe second, fare of the night. Worker guy just getting off a construction job, no doubt heading to the bar. Guy gets in front (they did that in Saskatoon, no pansy barriers for us), looks around, looks down at this boots and realising that the're muddy, thoughtfully looks around for sonmething to wipe them off with so he won't get the cab muddy. Naturally he grabs Ian's new map, wipes his boots with it and throws it out the window! Being a newbie, Ian doesn't say a thing. Driving drunks around the great white north when you're 18 is assertiveness boot camp. I'll have to put more 'bout why I love Toon Towen in the Street Where You Live thread. Meter's running...Dana

I think I said it elsewhere, but I might as well add it here too - I saw this gig, and as good as the recording is, it doesn't do justice to the sound Lacy got live.

Marty, Larry, et al: Sorry to take so long to respond. It's not surprising that Artie dissed J. Dodds, but it doesn't really bother me. Shaw had strong opinions 'bout all sorts of things and a guy who played that well and then hung it up for 50 years (not just quit the business, but as I understand it, quit playing totally) has got issues. Nice that he likes Noone who Goodman also admired, funny since Shaw complained that Goodman thought it was all about playing the clarinet, missing the larger musical picture, much less the cultural one. It's like when you have two friends that don't particularly like each other; it's their prob, not mine. shaw also said some pretty strong things about Klezmer, but I don't let that stop me from enjoying it or him... Shaw certainly wouldn't have been as nice about my playing as Perry R. was but that doesn't mean that Perry can't play... Eliptically, Dana

What I think 'bout Braxton is this: I think I'd need to clone myself and have one of me study him fulltime to have an even half way informed opinion. And that he really must have something against getting any airplay with those darn unpronoucable tune titles! Pie R squared? Pie are not square, pie are round!

Xmas list, fer sure.

Dolphy, but not as much as his versions of "It's Magic" or "They All Laughed"

I believe that Strayhorn actively dis-liked Nat's rendition, at least in part because he garbles the lyrics...any confirmation on this? My fav, Coltrane, the instrumental, I hear the lyrics just fine in my head without anyone singing them.

Got it (79.49 at Borders on the Educater Card 25% off sale, no sales tax). Read most of the book, listened to disc one and parts of others. Damn nice. Can't believe there's still unissued stuffs out there after this. LeRoi Jones is...um, well it does give you the flavour of the times. Has any one heard the other tune ("Tune Q") that was on early editions of Spiritual Unity? All the confusion re tunes/names can't have helped...not that he'd have been a best seller without it, but still... And I'm dying to hear what the unissued Don Ayler album done for Jihad sounded like, and not just 'cause I identify with Don since I too lost my brother a long time ago and struggled with it (not, thankfully, to the same extent).

Just turned 50 on Oct 4th

Live @ the VV: Trane, Sonny, Bill Evans, Art Pepper, etc. Maybe it should be a national monument? Ellington @ Fargo Goodman @ Carnegie Hall Clifford Brown Beginning & End (the End part, even if it wasn't quite) Albert Ayler Prophesey, etc. (over Spiritual Unity) Miles @ the Plugged Nickel (but I'd love to hear > of '67) Monk Big Band & Quartet Mingus @ Antibes Parker Summit Meeting @ Birdland w/Diz, Bud & Roy H, over Massey Hall non jazz: Dylan at the Royal Albert (sic) Costello @ the El Mocombo Allman Bros @ Fillmore Jimi all over the place, 'cause he was all over the place live, running hot and cold from tune to tune but when he was on... James Brown at the Apollo (Oct '62) Ray Charles in Atlanta on Atlantic Howlin' Wolf in Cambridge (piss poor sound, but stomping...) the Band Rock of Ages, over Last Waltz by a mile