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I guess, In general, when I say "New Wave" influence, I really just mean to suggest that (some) Rock Music became much less "Rock" oriented, and (often) introduced some synths into their mix, and (perhaps) became more "Pop" oriented (at times). Jimmy Page's "The Firm" is a good example, or at least their tune "Radioactive" probably is. Certainly not "New Wave" exactly (strictly speaking), but also definitely not "Led Zep II" either. (Nor is it really "Led Zep" meets "Bad Co" either.) Same thing could be said for several of Robert Plant's first few solo albums. I can't name tunes specifically, but I do know that what I remember hearing on the radio was definitely an evolved sound that was reacting to other stuff in the air around that time. Again, "New Wave" is not precisely the only aesthetic I'm looking for, but rather just the updated response of "Rock" music to general early 80's developments, including synthesizers and drum machines, and what many would describe as being "less human" musical textures. I'm game for changing the title of this thread again, to clarify a bit more... EDIT: OK, I dropped "New Wave" from the title of this thread, cuz it just confuses the issue.

I both like and dislike Waters' solo stuff. I mean, there are aspects of it that I really like (when I'm in the mood), but most of the time I have little interest in Waters' solo work. Hard to explain. On a related note, Waters' did half of the soundtrack to an animated movie called "When The Wind Blows". The whole of side 2 of that record is a suite of music by Waters (with vocals mostly, but a couple instrumentals), that easily rivals the best of "Pros and Cons..." or "Radio Waves".

Was on the fence about including it, but I guess Pete's solo work is certainly to be discussed here, even if it is far better known than maybe some of the other things some people have brought up. I really rather like "White City", and in some ways I consider it a companion work to David Gilmour's "About Face". Gilmour plays guitar on all (or most) of "White City" and Gilmour co-wrote at least one of the tunes ("White City Fighting"). And Pete wrote (or co-wrote) two of the tunes on Gilmour's "About Face" ("Love on the Air" and "All Lovers Are Deranged"). And the two albums were recorded within a year of each other.

I haven't heard this in many, many years -- but seem to remember having a roommate that used to have this on tape. Roger Hodgson - "In the Eye of The Storm", from 1984. Hodgson was half of Supertramp (he was the higher of the two voices), and you might remember the tune "Had a Dream [sleeping with the Eneny]" which got some airplay, if I remember right. Now was there any "New Wave" influence????? I haven't heard the album in so long, I can't remember. Yes???? No???? Maybe????

I haven't heard this in many, many years -- but seem to remember having a roommate that used to have this on tape. Roger Hodgson - "In the Eye of The Storm", from 1984. Hodgson was half of Supertramp (he was the higher of the two voices), and you might remember the tune "Had a Dream [sleeping with the Eneny]" which got some airplay, if I remember right. The AMG review is quite favorable, and says that Hodgson played nearly all the instruments on this album himself - which I think is impressive. (Ben Folds did the same thing on a recent album of his.)

Both of these are pretty good too, IMHO... And one could easily argue that these were solo projects as well... (And if I was fanatical about how I sorted my CD's, I would most certainly include "The Final Cut" in the solo Waters section, and "Momentary Lapse..." in the David Gilmour section.)

Could be. I'm not really much of a Stones nut, but for some reason - "Talk Is Cheap" really took hold of me when it first came out. I didn't care quite as much for Keith's 2nd solo album, "Main Offender" (from 1992), but I thought Keith's one live release, "Live at the Hollywood Palladium (Dec. 15, 1988)" was pretty darn good.

Jeff Lynne - "Armchair Theatre", from 1990. A good (but probably not 'great') album. Back in the early 90's, I used to spin this fairly often, although I don't nearly as much now. (Something about Lynne's production techniques that I've grown to like less and less over the years.) Still, well worth getting if you see in used in a bargain bin for $3 (which I have seen quite frequently), and have any interest at all.

And perhaps one of the very best side-projects of all... XTC's side band/project under the name The Dukes of Stratosphear, which released one EP and one full album, which have both been combined on one CD: Chips from the Chocolate Fireball. Frankly, as much as I love XTC (and I do really like XTC quite a lot!!!), I think I like The Duke's output as much as anything in the entire XTC catgalog. Yes, it's in print. Sound samples are HERE.

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OK, over the years I think I've seen tons and tons of records and CD's by all kinds of bands (from the 60's through today), but sometimes the solo projects and/or side projects slip through the cracks, especially if they aren't filed alphabetically with the rest of a band's output. Many worthy releases I'm sure I'm not even aware of. I'll mention a couple that I think are obvious (at least the 2nd one is), but perhaps not known to everyone here... Justin Hayward & John Lodge (of "The Moody Blues") on an album called "Blue Jays, from 1975. I'm no longer very much into the Moody Blues, but when I was - I used to think this was every bit as great an album as anything the Moody Blues ever recorded. It has been released on CD, and appears to still be in print. Keith Richards - "Talk Is Cheap" from 1988. A fantastic album that grooves quite deeply, featuring Sarah Dash on vocals on several tracks (with Keith on vocals on every track), along with a whole bunch of other greats like Bootsy Collins, The Memphis Horns, Mick Taylor, Johnnie Johnson, Bernie Worrell, Ivan Neville, and Maceo Parker. A 5-star album in my book (and I'm no Stones fanatic either).

Didn't the Rolling Stones react to New Wave too, at least a little bit??? I've never heard "Undercover" from 1983, but I know the tune "Undercover of the Night" from it, and perhaps one or two others from the radio (with titles that I'm not familiar with). Part of the AMG review of "Undercover" says: "As their most ambitious album since Some Girls, Undercover is a weird, wild mix of hard rock, new wave pop, reggae, dub and soul." Perhaps "Dirty Work" from 1986 as well, which I used to have at the time, but haven't heard in years.

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Isn't this also the case with Jazz (although, perhaps to a lesser extent than Blues). If we want to go off on this tangent further (and I'm tempted), perhaps another (separate) thread would be in order. I know the topic's been discussed before (and perhaps 'discussed to death'), but I'd welcome some more discussion, especially on this here board --- where the discussions about race seem to be far more civil than they usually turn out to be on AAJ, or back on the BNBB.

You caught me. I did just change the sub-head on this thread (I think it originally said "name some of the best results..."), but I backed off from posting an official course correction into the thread itself. The sidetracking is fine, and not at all unwelcome. I just wanted to also get some more input on the original (if peculiar) focus of my starting this thread in the first place. ( But a dual discussion is OK by me, and I'm always looking for more cool stuff from the early 80's. )

75% a guess, and 25% the vague notion that I've heard this before somewhere... upright bass

Damn, we're getting close. All the conns are now up (with descriptive info) on the Blue Note site: http://www.bluenote.com/newreleases.asp ===================================== Andrew Hill- Passing Ships This amazing 1969 nonet session, released here for the first time, features spectacular writing by Hill that presages his current big band. The instrumentation is one reed (doubling on tenor, soprano, alto flute and English horn), two trumpets, trombone, French horn, tuba (doubling on bass clarinet), piano, bass and drums. Joe Farrell, Woody Shaw, Dizzy Reece, Julian Priester and Hill are the principal soloists, and the compositions are varied and inventive. Andrew Hill: piano Woody Shaw, Dizzy Reece: trumpets Julian Priester: trombone Bob Northern: French horn Howard Johnson: tuba, bass clarinet Joe Farrell: soprano sax, tenor sax, alto flute, bass clarinet, English horn Ron Carter: bass Lenny White: drums Track Listing 1 Sideways 2 Passing Ships 3 Plantation Bag 4 Noon Tide 5 The Brown Queen 6 Cascade 7 Yesterday's Tomorrow ===================================== Charlie Rouse- Bossa Nova Bacchanal Rouse was the consummate hard-bopper, but he had an affinity for the delicate melodies and irresistible rhythms of Brazilian samba music. This 1962 album with Kenny Burrell, Willie Bobo and Patato Valdes among others was his first foray into the genre and his muscular lyricism suits the material perfectly. ===================================== Hank Mobley- The Flip On CD at last, this Mobley’s second-to-last Blue Note session and it took place in Paris with Dizzy Reece, Slide Hampton, Vince Benedetti, Alby Cullaz and Philly Joe Jones. All the tunes are by Hank and highlights include the title tune and “Early Morning Stroll”. ===================================== Larry Young- Mother Ship Larry Young’s final Blue Note session with Lee Morgan, Herbert Morgan and Eddie Gladden has the instrumentation and exploratory feeling of “Unity” combined with the intensity and power of Tony Williams’ Lifetime, of which Larry was a member. This title is on CD for the first time. ===================================== Lee Morgan- Sonic Boom This marvelous 1967 date with David Fathead Newman, Cedar Walton, Ron Carter and Billy Higgins was not released until 1980. This is its first CD issue with a bonus session made in 1969 with George Coleman, Julian Priester and Harold Mabern. ===================================== Sam Rivers- Fuschia Swing Song Rivers’ magnificent debut album with Jaki Byard, Ron Carter and Tony Williams is pure chemistry by four masters. Rivers and Byard, both eclectic virtuosos, go back to the ‘40s together and Sam had been playing with Williams since he was 12 (he’s all of 18 here). A classic album of taste, spirit and discovery with four alternate takes. ===================================== Are we there yet??? Are we there yet??? Are we there yet??? Are we there yet???

I think I remember seeing a thread like this on AAJ, actually. No mention of "Rooster" and his sometime borderline psychotic ramblings. (Whew!!! )

In many ways, I hear ya, Moosieur. I liked (but didn't ever love) "The Firm", and I guess you could say that I've never warmed to "Rush" or "Yes" either, since I've never bought any of their music before. But, I certainly was exposed to it back then - on "AOR" radio at the time. (Weren't we all???) I'm all over the bands that first came into prominence in the 80's, but it's those 70's (that tried to reinvent themselves) that I've been overlooking. I suppose some E.L.P. or maybe Asia might be in order too. Genesis too probably, although I'm gonna have to pick my post-Gabriel "Genesis" very carefully, since much of it is really too much like solo Phil Collins for my taste. How about maybe The Who's "It's Hard" from 1982?? Or here's a couple from left field: Neil Young's "Trans" from 1983, or maybe Young's "Landing on Water" from 1986. How could I forget David Bowie. Yeah, I certainly have some Bowie from the 80's. How about maybe Jethro Tull's "Under Wraps" from 1984"??? I've never heard this album, but suspect I might remember a tune or two from what little airplay it got at the time. (The AMG review mentions copious drum machines and synthesizers.) PS: I'm sure the primary function of these CD's will be for the car for long road trips with my wife.

Fully quote the darn thing. Are we taking about the band, or the board, or both???

But there's only four players on the date: Hill, Jimmy Vass (alto, soprano, flute), Chris White (bass), and Leroy Williams (drums). ( I've seen an LP of this title recently, and it only says "quartet", so perhaps this is a problem only with the CD issue. )

PS: Please feel free to suggest compilations, if appropriate. For instance, I'm thinking about searching this puppy out... Rush - Retrospective, Vol. 2 (1981-1987), which is a single disc overview. or maybe... Rush - Chronicles, which is a double-disc set that covers them from '74-'87. or, maybe I'd really be better off with a small handful of specific albums, like maybe two (or three at most) of these 80's Rush titles. (At present, I don't own any Rush at all.) 1980 - Permanent Waves 1981 - Moving Pictures 1982 - Signals 1984 - Grace Under Pressure 1985 - Power Windows 1987 - Hold Your Fire Similar ground rules for suggestions from other bands too -- either compilations, or specific albums -- which ever makes the most sense for a casual fan like me.

Nope, 'fraid I'm planning to buy it at my favorite shiny disc emporium the day it comes out. They open at 10am, and knowing them - they won't have even put out any of the "non-Rock" new releases yet by 10am. So, of course that means they'll have to search through the boxes to try to find the jazz box, and dig through it. And if it isn't there, then maybe there were two jazz boxes, or maybe some of the jazz titles got mixed in with the rock "restock" titles. In any case, I'm sure it won't be until 10:30am before I have the disc in my hot little hands. Hey FREE FOR ALL - you still game for a little mid-day "listening party" on Tuesday, so we can both take in "Passing Ships" for the first time, within the same airspace (on the same stereo)??? Could be fun.

OK, I'll admit it - I'm a child of the 80's, when it comes to the music of my youth. And my wife is too. (I was born in 1969, she in 1967.) We have more "80's" CD's than I would probably care to admit to, although I've tried to steer clear of the crap, and focus on the really good stuff. For instance, I have a nearly complete "The Fixx" collection on CD. And my wife still has a fetish for "Duran Duran". And of course we've got a whole bunch of "Talking Heads" discs, and "The Police" box set too. Then again, many of our purchases in this area are "greatest hits" packages (often just one CD by any one artist). But through all of my backtracking now (trying to (re)discover music I may have only vaguely known at the time, but haven't heard much since), I'm starting to realize that there were (and are) probably a bunch of really great Rock albums from the 80's, that were overt reactions to the "New Wave" sounds of the 80's. For instance, I suddenly have the urge to pick up Yes's "90125" from 1983, or maybe Rush's "Moving Pictures" from 1981. Or how about some of Robert Plant 's solo output, right after Led Zep broke up. (I kinda wish they’d release a single disc "greatest hits" package of Plant's solo work.) I’ve already got both albums on CD by The Firm, which I discovered back in my college days (late 80’s), and rather liked (remember the tune "Radioactive"???). So then, what are some of the best Rock albums in the 80's, by bands that started in the 70's, that might hold the same nostalgia appeal that much of "New Wave" pop music of that era holds for me and the Mrs. --- thanks!!!