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Still no cover available anywhere for "Mother Ship"??? None at overstock.com, and not at any of a small handful of other sites I checked (which don't even have "Passing Ships" or "Sonic Boom").

Well worth reading the AMG review, and thanks for the link. It probably captures the nature of this particular Miles box pretty well, I'm guessing (having not heard it yet). I'm still really looking forward to it, but I can understand how not everyone will be as much as others.

I posted to a couple threads earlier this morning, and got the same errors as before (see my most recent post in this thread). Presumably this is the same error people are getting with PM's. And, now that I think of it - I think I tried to send a PM last last night, and got the same error too. ========== Hell's bells, I got it again as I was posting this very post. I'm sure that it probably went though, but I dutifully hit the "back" button on my brouser, and am now posting again (probably resulting in a duplicate, except for these added comments, below the line of "===="). The error: Mail Error! SMTP protocol failure! Host: localhost Return Code: Return Msg: Invision Power Board Error: Could not open a socket to the SMTP server Check your SMTP settings from the admin control panel

I posted to a couple threads earlier this morning, and got the same errors as before (see my most recent post in this thread). Presumably this is the same error people are getting with PM's. And, now that I think of it - I think I tried to send a PM last last night, and got the same error too.

Come on, D. - it better be a good one!!

A friend of mine got the McLean set for the first time a couple years ago, and hadn't heard any of the material on it before. After his first time through it, he said "Tolliver practically steals the show!!". And this was coming from a guy who loves McLean (what he'd heard, anyway), and he was pretty unfamiliar with Tolliver.

Wow, pretty nice cover.

"Up" for more discussion, since there was a question elsewhere about this set. I would sum it up as being very "Charles Tolliver"-like, in some ways, and that much of it has some of that very early 70's "Strata East"-ish vibe to it (and totally in a GOOD way). Nearly all of it is pretty strong, and there isn't but one or maybe two tunes on the whole set that I wouldn't probably give at least 4-stars out of 5 (meaning 3 cd's of this material certainly doesn't seem bloated to me).

Well, I for one am really looking forward to this one, probably more than the Bitches Brew box (which I like quite a lot, but not as much as the IasW box).

Wow... CNN.com 12 year old settles music swap lawsuit Tuesday, September 9, 2003 Posted: 9:30 PM EDT (0130 GMT) LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A day after being sued for illegally sharing music files through the Internet, a 12-year-old girl has settled with the Recording Industry Association of America. She's the first of 261 defendants to settle their lawsuits with the association. Brianna LaHara agreed Tuesday to pay $2,000, or about $2 per song she allegedly shared. "I am sorry for what I have done," LaHara said. "I love music and don't want to hurt the artists I love." The suit claimed LaHara had been offering more than 1,000 songs on the Internet, using the Kazaa file-sharing service. The RIAA said it was pleased with the settlement. There are 260 cases still pending. "We're trying to send a strong message that you are not anonymous when you participate in peer-to-peer file-sharing and that the illegal distribution of copyrighted music has consequences," said Mitch Bainwol, RIAA chairman and chief executive officer. "And as this case illustrates, parents need to be aware of what their children are doing on their computers." Monday, RIAA filed lawsuits against 261 individual Internet music file-sharers and announced an amnesty program for most people who admit they illegally shared music files through the Internet. The amnesty would only offer protection for songs represented by the RIAA and not from publishers, musicians or others with rights to songs. Cary Sherman, president of the RIAA, said the civil lawsuits were filed against "major offenders" who made available an average of 1,000 copyright song files. Record companies blame illegal music file-trading for a 31-percent fall in compact disc sales since mid-2000. Sherman also announced the Clean Slate Program that grants amnesty to users who voluntarily identify themselves, erase downloaded music files and promise not to share music on the Internet. The RIAA said it will not sue users who sign and have notarized a Clean Slate Program affidavit. The offer of amnesty will not apply to about 1,600 people targeted by copyright subpoenas from the RIAA. The decision was made a few weeks after U.S. appeals court rulings mandated that Internet providers turn over the names of subscribers believed to be sharing music and movies illegally. Until now, the only music file-swapping lawsuits filed by the RIAA were against four college students accused of making thousands of songs available on campus networks. Those cases were settled for $12,500 to $17,000 each. Sherman said Monday that the RIAA had negotiated settlements in the range of $3,000 with a "handful" of Internet users who had learned from their Internet service providers that they were being targeted for lawsuits. The industry is also pursuing subpoenas at universities around the country seeking to identify music file traders.

I don't have a turntable even, but I wouldn't mind having a separate area for vinyl discussion, if that would be a logical thing to add to the list of forums. That said, I don't think having 100 different forums is such a good idea, but I could see "vinyl" as being a legit topic for discussion, such that it could merit it's only corner of the world around these parts. (In other words, if enough other people want it, then fine by me!! )

Congrats!!!!

Where's the cheapest place to get this one on-line??? I haven't gotten it yet, cuz I'm sure my local brick-n-mortar want's like $28 for it (ouch!!). I'm sure it's totally kickin' - never a doubt in my mind. I'll get it sometime, I'm sure - when I've got the scratch to do it.

About 10 or 15, maybe 20 at most.

For years it was thought that the master tapes of "Passing Ships" were all messed up -- which is what Michael discovered in the mid-70's when he was fishing for unreleased BN material worthy of release. Turns out that it was a stereo mixdown of the "Passing Ships" tapes that was all messed-up, and not the original master-tapes. This was only discovered within the past year, when the orignal master-tapes turned up, and were given a listen. Or maybe they weren't lost at all, but were thought to be flawed all this time, and were never listened to. With as many tapes as there much be in the vaults, something like this was bound to happen - so I don't fault anyone for the oversite. Just glad it's finally coming out, after all these years. (Source: My memory of the BN thread that Kevin started, and recently deleted.)

Can somebody call me later and tell me what's going on in this thread?? I think I'm gonna be too lazy to turn on my computer.

Wow, that's pretty cheap. Can't imagine finding it here in a brick 'n' mortar store for anything less than about $65, not even at Best Buy. Hey Vibes - any idea what Best Buy is gonna sell this thing at?? Just curious. Edit: answered my own question, BestBuy.com has it listed at $59.99 - which comes down to $12 per disc. Still, DeepDiscounted.com's price is only $10.25 per disc, and that includes shipping too!! Damn, that's pretty cheap.

Can these really be among the WORST 'downloading 'offenders that the RAII is targetting with their suits?? Is this crazy or what??? From: CNN.com Who's targeted by music swapping suits? Tuesday, September 9, 2003 Posted: 11:35 AM EDT (1535 GMT) WASHINGTON (AP) -- The targets of the first lawsuits against music fans who share songs on the Internet include an elderly man in Texas who rarely uses his computer, a Yale University professor and an unemployed woman in New York who says she didn't know she was breaking the law. Each faces potentially devastating civil penalties or settlements that could cost them tens of thousands of dollars. The Recording Industry Association of America launched the next stage of its aggressive anti-piracy campaign Monday, filing 261 federal lawsuits across the country. The action was aimed at what the RIAA described as "major offenders" illegally distributing on average more than 1,000 copyrighted music files each, but lawyers warned they may ultimately file thousands of similar cases. The grandfather and the academic Durwood Pickle, 71, of Richardson, Texas, said his teenage grandchildren downloaded music onto his computer during their visits to his home. He said his grown son had explained the situation in an earlier e-mail to the recording industry association. "I didn't do it, and I don't feel like I'm responsible," Pickle said in an interview. "It's been stopped now, I guarantee you that." Pickle, who was unaware he was being sued until contacted by The Associated Press, said he rarely uses the computer in his home. "I'm not a computer-type person," Pickle said. "They come in and get on the computer. How do I get out of this?" Yale University professor Timothy Davis said he will stop sharing music files immediately. He downloaded about 500 songs from others on the Internet before his Internet provider notified him about the music industry's interest in his activities. "I've been pretending it was going to go away," said Davis, who teaches photography. Unhappy file sharers Another defendant, Lisa Schamis of New York, said her Internet provider warned her two months ago that record industry lawyers had asked for her name and address, but she said she had no idea she might be sued. She acknowledged downloading "lots" of music over file-sharing networks. "This is ridiculous," said Schamis, 26. "I didn't understand it was illegal." She said the music industry shouldn't have the right to sue. "It's wrong on their part," she said. An estimated 60 million Americans participate in file-sharing networks, using software that makes it simple for computer users to locate and retrieve for free virtually any song by any artist within moments. Internet users broadly acknowledge music-trading is illegal, but the practice has flourished in recent years since copyright statutes are among the most popularly flouted laws online. "Nobody likes playing the heavy," said RIAA President Cary Sherman, who compared illegal music downloads to shoplifting. "There comes a time when you have to stand up and take appropriate action." Hearings planned Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minnesota, has already promised congressional hearings into how the music industry has identified and tracked the Internet users it's suing. "They have a legitimate interest that needs to be protected, but are they protecting it in a way that's too broad and overreaching?" Coleman said. "I don't want to make criminals out of 60 million kids, even though kids and grandkids are doing things they shouldn't be doing." The RIAA did not identify for reporters which Internet users it was suing or where they live. Lawsuits were filed in federal courthouses in New York City, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas and elsewhere. "Get a lawyer," advised Fred von Lohmann, an attorney for the San Francisco-based Electronic Frontier Foundation. "There's no simpler advice than that, whether you intend to fight this or not. You'll need someone to advise you." With estimates that half of file-sharers are teenagers, all sides braced for the inevitable legal debate surrounding the financial damage to parents or grandparents. The RIAA named as the defendant in each lawsuit the person who paid for the household Internet account. "That question will come up immediately, whether a minor can have the requisite knowledge to be the right defendant," said Susan Crawford, who teaches law at Yeshiva University's Cardozo law school in New York City. "A very young child who didn't know what they were doing would be a bad defendant for the industry." Offering amnesty The RIAA also announced an amnesty program for people who admit they illegally share music, promising not to sue them in exchange for their admission and pledge to delete the songs off their computers. The offer does not apply to people who already are targets of legal action. Sherman called the amnesty offer "our version of an olive branch." Some defense lawyers have objected to the amnesty provisions, warning that song publishers and other organizations not represented by the RIAA won't be constrained by the group's promise not to sue. U.S. copyright laws allow for damages of $750 to $150,000 for each song offered illegally on a person's computer.

Sorry couw, didn't mean to wreck a perfectly good joke!! By the way, I wouldn't pay any more than about $6 or $7 (including shipping) for anything in this series. Anything more than that, and you're better off saving your pennies for a legit version.

Yup, I sure did. (Just checking 12 hours of activitiy on the board that I missed, before catching up on PM's.)

Yup, I got one. Others have complained about the Sound Quality, but personally I thought the SQ on this series was usually pretty good. (Or at least 1000 times better than the "Applause" issues of BN CD's.) And frankly, I think the SQ on this series is better than many of the late 80's issues of BN titles here in the U.S., come to think of it. Here's what they look like, for those who haven't clicked the auction... Edit: No way to display the smaller versions of the gifs here, so click on the auction above to see the covers.

FYI, I got this same message about 20 minutes ago when I was posting to a thread... Mail Error! SMTP protocol failure! Host: localhost Return Code: Return Msg: Invision Power Board Error: Could not open a socket to the SMTP server Check your SMTP settings from the admin control panel

I like the TOCJ cover of "Sonic Boom" quite a bit, although the new one coming out next month is good too. But I've never cared so much for the TOCJ cover of "The Procrastinator".