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Well, not with that attitude you sure won’t.

Apples and oranges, as the comparison is purely based on revenue, and not units sold. I’d love to see the units sold numbers, side by side - though there’s no denying that CD sales are diminishing. Personally, I think it’s a crime how much new vinyl costs - over double the price for a less convenient format (for those that do prefer physical media).

Full album is now on YouTube (a single one-hour+ upload). All the individual tracks/tunes are indexed, and if you pop out to YouTube in your browser, you can skip around from track to track, like a CD. https://youtu.be/Mh425vohP8E

If I had my druthers, I’d compile a 79 minute “Best of Yusef Lateef on tenor” compilation CD. And before anyone complains, it’s just a compilation - and does nothing to limit access to the rest of his catalog.

Sun Ra alert!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cry_of_Jazz

And worst of all, it doesn't look ANYTHING like Danny Moore...

And here's the last three tracks... 7. "Chance" (Alex Sipiagin) 7:17 8. "Blues For Wood" (Woody Shaw / Ronnie Mathews) 8:17 9. "Greenwood II" (Alex Sipiagin) 8:09

4. "Beyond All Limits" (Woody Shaw) 7:38 5. "Windy Bahn" (Alex Sipiagin) 8:40 6. "Katrina Ballerina" (Woody Shaw) 7:16

https://www.amazon.com/Baltimore-George-Coleman-Quintet/dp/B08GVGC6NG

I really love that Andy LaVerne Trio date. Did you know that in 1999 he remade the entire album with Tim Hagans added to the group? - with wonderful results. https://www.discogs.com/Andy-LaVerne-Another-World-Another-Time/release/6000964 YouTube playlist of entire album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvR5kinShQ&list=OLAK5uy_lZX3U9iSogGa3GxT6982RYxeuGR5_z8FM

Picked up a used copy of this from Dusty Groove a couple weeks ago (the "Woody Shaw" hook got me), and I'm really impressed with this date, and with Sipiagin. Hadn't ever heard/heard of him at all (except, apparently on Dave Holland's first Big Band album on ECM in 2002, the only other thing I have w/ Sipiagin -- and he's also on a few later Holland releases I'm not familiar with). Discogs has 120+(!) entries for him, so clearly he's done a lot, and I'm just now discovering him (not the first time something like that's happened). Anyway, this date is his personal tribute to Woody Shaw -- and aside from his wonderful playing, it's a really interesting take because the trio backing him has guitar (and no piano). https://www.discogs.com/Alex-Sipiagin-Generations-Dedicated-To-Woody-Shaw/release/6301001 Trumpet, Flugelhorn – Alex Sipiagin Guitar – Adam Rogers Bass – Boris Kozlov Drums – Antonio Sanchez Recorded: January 25, 2010 at RPM Studio, New York, N.Y. https://www.crisscrossjazz.com/album/1325.html About half the tunes are Woody's (or songs associated with him). But Sipiagin's originals here are all based heavily on specific passages of Woody Shaw solos, so the whole thing is really deeply in the spirit of Shaw. YouTube playlist of the entire album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWpg5bwrY2Q&list=OLAK5uy_mesFqL6FI57i-R1vfyNHxfqsgDNpV2ehU Greenwood I (Alex Sipiagin) 8:46 Obsequious (Larry Young) 5:53 Cassandranite (Woody Shaw) 5:54 Beyond All Limits (Woody Shaw) 7:38 Windy Bahn (Alex Sipiagin) 8:40 Katrina Ballerina (Woody Shaw) 7:16 Chance (Alex Sipiagin) 7:17 Blues For Wood (Woody Shaw / Ronnie Mathews) 8:17 Greenwood II (Alex Sipiagin) 8:09 I'll embed them below in sets of three... 1. "Greenwood I" (Alex Sipiagin) 8:46 2. "Obsequious" (Larry Young) 5:53 3. "Cassandranite" (Woody Shaw) 5:54

Nice lineup. And I like that cover! - which has a sort of color scheme that seems to harken to some sort of past, but one that was a bit “retro futuristic”, maybe circa 1974?

The group interplay especially on this album, is on such a high level. How many trumpeters could play like that, at the age of just 23! Not entirely unprecedented, I realize (Clifford Brown, for instance) – but I think Ohno plays with technique and lyricism well beyond his years. I see online that Ohno, plus both the keyboard player and drummer - were all 3 born in 1949 (each ~23 years old in ‘72). The bass player was born in 1947, but was still only 25. Quite an album for a bunch of early-to-mid-20-somethings to have made.

Thanks, Niko. Such a nice little track - not so little, actually. No idea what sort of umbrella it would fit, but it would be a nice inclusion on a future “Spiritual Jazz” v/a release from the UK Jazzman label - if they weren’t doing label-centric dives of late (Prestige, BN, Steeplechase, and one from Impulse is on deck next, iirc). (I don’t exactly mind the label-centric Spiritual Jazz comps, but I valued the series more when it was more obscure stuff.)

Leary’s bass solo on the track I posted up too, sure is tasty too - as are all the other soloists. I love how up-front in the mix that bass solo is - which is partially why I’m wondering if it comes from a legit release of some sort (and not just some random single-mic recording of a live performance - or even something taken off a soundboard). The sound isn’t perfect, but it is really rather above average if it’s more of a homemade sort of thing. (Maybe a self-produced independently issued LP - maybe?)

Wow, that track by Smoke is wonderful! Sure wish that was on CD. Might just have to break down and look for it on LP even. Thx!! And how funny they should come up in an entirely unrelated thread, with all the talk of Monk at Palo Alto.

Is there any kind of story about how Gilmour ended up with that short stint with the Jazz Messengers? Especially it being a European tour, and all. If nothing else, the burning question is whether he bought (had to buy) that killer suit he’s in on that BBC broadcast - ? (Certainly not Arkestra-issue attire, putting it mildly.) Did Gilmore ever mention it? - playing with Lee Morgan? Come to think of it, were/are there any published Gilmore interviews, of any sort? (Off to google to see if I can find any.)

Stumbled on this interesting 11-minute track on YouTube last week. Is this from an album of some sort, by any chance? It seems to have been uploaded by Leary (or someone on his behalf - it seems to come from his YouTube account/page). YouTube description: BAPTISM composed 1968 by James Leary RECORDED 1970 San Mateo, Ca Personnel "An initiary act or beginning" — Todd Cochran-Piano, Paul Smith-drums, Fred Berry-Trumpet, Hadley Caliman-Tenor sax, James Leary-bass And on trumpet, who’s Fred Berry? - somebody I should know? (or knew, and forgot?) This whole track is quite interesting, and I’d love to hear more by this group. Don’t know much about Leary. His Wikipedia entry, fwiw: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Leary_(musician) Not much more here: http://www.jameslearymusic.com

Now that this is just up on YouTube within the last year, it can be more easily heard and discussed. What everyone’s take on this striking debut leader-date by Shunzo Ohno? - who was only 23 when it was recorded (it seems to have been released in 1973). Trumpet, flugelhorn, compositions – Shunzo Ohno Piano, electric piano – Mikio Masuda Bass – Mitsuaki Furuno Drums – Arihide Kurata recorded Aug 28, 1972 https://www.discogs.com/Shunzo-Ohno-Quartet-Falter-Out/release/11040820 Just three tracks on CD (side 2 on the album segues), this first bare link (URL) is to a playlist of the entire album. Or each track is individually embedded below. Issued on CD just once (a SHM, fwiw) – in 2017 (on Deep Jazz Reality). Even brand new it seemed to run around $23-$25 (iirc), and I paid $30 for it from Dusty Groove (but it was worth every penny). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Usa_qZVpty8&list=OLAK5uy_l5mp4e83QAfBqSYqrW8hmhwVK2leIp3hI 1. “Alfa” (12:39) 2. “A Mournful Scene” (6:59) 3. “Falter Out ~ Once Again” (24:31)

You can tell I don’t do downloads, because I forgot to even look earlier. Here’s the two Horo quartet double LP’s, legit (far as I know). https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/new-steps https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/other-voices-other-blues I think we’re quite fortunate that there’s even this much quartet material, fairly ‘outside’ - but not crazily so (which is just like I like it). Did this quartet play live any? I vaguely seem to remember a live release of some sort, which (iirc), was further out than I could get very much into (or was I just imagining this quartet playing live?). Maybe Media Dream or Disco 3000? Those titles are jumping in my head. Something I had at one point, but parted with (apparently).

Can anyone post some YouTube clips, either live footage, or plenty of his albums and a couple sideman appearances seem to be represented as full-album uploads. Any tracks to recommend? And discuss.

The two 1978 Horo double-LP’s of the Sun Ra Quartet (with Michael Ray, and Luqman Ali on percussion) - are pretty stunning. Track down this material, by hook or crook, however you can. New Steps was available ~8 years ago on a superb grey-market silver-disc CD (with fine liners even), Unfortunately Other Voices Other Blues hasn’t seen any similar sort of CD release, but there was a grey-market 3LP are issue of both double LP’s together (iirc), I forget the title - no idea of quality, but it’s probably pretty good I’d think. I have that boot CD of New Steps, and Also an original LP set of OVOB that I got back in college, part of a set of ~35 Arkestra albums I bought as a bundle for $150 (including several Saturns) - a lucky find, to be sure. All this Horo quartet material is pretty stunning (all of it studio recordings) - and important for the Gilmore quotient, but especially also for the Michael Ray (imho).

Can someone remind me, has this program/footage ever been released commercially?

I’m 51, and my first and only exposure to Ambrose was hearing him live here in DC at the Atlas theater in 2012. And much as I tried, I could not connect with his music much at all. It was him with a pretty forward thinking piano-trio backing him (can’t remember if it was piano, or maybe a Rhodes). But whatever, I couldn’t make heads or tails of it. My not caring for the concert *didn’t* made me think his playing was “nonsense” or anything - just that it wasn’t for me (despite my having fairly big ears, or so I’d like to think). I haven’t bought any of his releases, though, as you might imagine. Here’s someone else’s review of the very concert I heard (and it was in a small theater, not a club). https://www.capitalbop.com/live-review-ambrose-akinmusires-vigorous-serenity-at-the-atlas-performing-arts-center/

Thanks, but one of my bigger interests in the early FM material is hearing/having all of Christine McVie’s pre-1975 lead-vocal tracks (or most all of them), plus she presumably singles a few (at least a couple?) on the live concert bonus disc from the 8CD set. It’s not an “imperative”, but if I’m gonna get some of this material, I really ought not to leave any behind. I’m seeing the 5-disc OAS set omits 2(?) of the later FM albums with Christine McVie, so I’m pretty sure I’d eventually want them too. And no idea if she’s prominently on any of the bonus tracks too (and again, and extra concert disc is a bonus too). (But thanks!!) BTW, I’m 90% sure I do want to part with vols. 4–10 of the Masada discs. So what I need to do is focus on vols. 2-3, and really spin them 2 or 3 times each, and see if I really want to part with them too (which I might - could go either way). No need to try and convince me it’s ok if I keep 2-3. It really may be that I’m totally fine just keeping Alef only (and might not miss 2-3 at all). I hadn’t spun any of them in years, I’m realizing, and I’m sure when I did, I probably usually started with vol 1 - so that might be the one with the tunes I know best anyway. Part of me would love to set you up with all of the 9 volumes that you’re missing, so we’ll just have to see.