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FWIW, it’s a week later, and my CD from Newport CA has still not arrived. The original scheduled arrival date was supposed to be last Tuesday (9/15) according to the first tracking info txt-msg I got on 9/8 (when it first entered their system), but the last meaningful update was that it had left LA on 9/10 (other than a generic update on 9/14 that basically said “it’s gonna be later”). Not the end of the world, but I wonder how many more days (or weeks) it’ll be. It’s 1 week late as of today.

Two more Shunzo Ohno penned tunes from Oct, 1973 - also with George Otsuka’s group... https://www.discogs.com/George-Otsuka-Quintet-In-Concert-/release/12980051 1. “Afternoon Walk” (Ohno) 21:04 4. “She Said So” (Ohno) 14:01

Is it on the Wayback-Machine site, by any chance? I do kinda vaguely remember the comments as being interesting, and often pretty helpful (particularly with obscure entries, or at least stuff I hadn’t yet heard back then).

Hi GP. I’m now 100% sure I can part with vols 4-10 (no doubts). And I’m ~90% sure I do also want to part with vols 2-3, but I want to spin them one more time this weekend, to be sure. A bit of is this material is really (a bit) more ‘out’ than I really will listen to all that often. (And keeping vol 1 should be plenty.) I’ll try and let you know for sure (about 2 & 3) by Monday.

This screwy looking URL is the actual direct address of the real (official) Woody Shaw discography, from the legit Woody Shaw website. http://50.62.230.18/discography/ There are a few things (5 total, iirc) after the Swainson session. 2-3 studio, and 2-3 live. (On my phone, or I could more easily cite them.)

Bought a CD on eBay on Sept 6 (being shipped from Newport Beach, CA). It was shipped On time and with tracking, with an USPS expected delivery date of Tue, Sept 15. I signed up for all the tracking text-msg options, to follow its progress, and the last useful update I got was on Sept 10 saying it had left a Los Angeles distribution center, but then - radio silence. I did get one generic msg on Sept 14 that is was going to arrive late, but I got the sense that it was an automated message sent whenever no new info if available (or being generated) on the eve of what was previously the package’s previous “expected” delivery date. But nothing since, and really no specific info on it since Sept 10. Not overly worried about it / it’ll probably get here at some point, sooner or later. But a question... Does a “tracking number” actually give you any (real) insight as to where it is? I’ve read online about other packages recently just “disappearing” in the system for days or even weeks, only to presumably reappear “eventually”. No super-specific question, I guess - other than tracking numbers really don’t mean much if a package just “stops” moving in their system / right? (Meaning I can’t re-enter the tracking number to find out where it actually is, because the USPS system only “thinks” it is, wherever it was when they last scanned it.)

2020, what a year.

If I might briefly hijack this thread, can anyone recommend any books with especially good 1970’s coverage? For instance, how’s this one? Bill Shoemaker: Jazz in the 1970s: Diverging Streams The lengthy description found on Amazon looks promising: https://www.amazon.com/Jazz-1970s-Diverging-Bill-Shoemaker/dp/1442242094 Would love to learn of other titles worth considering.

Chuck, I’d genuinely be curious to hear more about your characterizations/memories of having talked at a little length with Crouch. Feel free to edit/filter your thoughts as much as you like and/or feel the need to. Despite my snarky comment earlier, I’m honestly NOT looking for any red meat at all. Just whatever comes to mind / that you think might be interesting.

This one, from 1999? https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Mosaic-Sampler/release/6171768 That’s the only one I (vaguely) remember.

I’d buy one, in a heart beat. ❤️

Washington DC is still on Phase 2, with no immediate plans to move into Phase 3 (far as I know). I think(?) we have actually met all the criteria to move into Phase 3 over a month ago (the biggest thing being a positivity rate of only 3%, for several weeks now, iirc) - but there seems to be an abundance of caution regarding opening up too quickly - which seems entirely prudent, I might add. A recent and fairy deep survey of businesses in DC and in the immediate DC metro area seems to indicate most don’t expect to have things meaningfully opened back up again until next Summer (2021). https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/15/913154140/workers-in-washington-d-c-region-likely-to-work-from-home-until-next-summer

Also YouTube...

If one fell out of the sky, I wouldn’t say no to an empty outer box (sans any sort of label) and plastic insert made to hold 2 “fat boy” cases (for a Larry Young box I have all the CD’s for, plus a booklet I acquired a couple years later).

If this wasn’t an RIP thread, I’d be temped to ask “full of what?”.

Would be interesting to get Michael Cuscuna’s reaction to this. Or someone equally steeped in Blue Note lore. 1) since Michael was the “producer of record” on the first issue of this material in 1996, and specifically 2) about the whole album name difference, “Spirit” vs. “Split” - is that anything Michael was aware of? - or anything else he might think about it. It’s such an oddball thing, only made more so by the title difference. If it isn’t literally a one of a kind, it’s surely damn close.

This is still one of the wildest Blue Note anomalies I think I’ve ever heard told. And why, of all things, would this have been a German pressing?

Did the seller give any indication HOW they knew the genesis of this LP you got from them? And also, how they got it in the first place.

“Goofy” is right!

Red? Garsh, that just looks all kinds of wrong visually.

I do have wifi (and I also forgot to say it wasn’t just a cable box I had, but a DVR). But I don’t have a home network, or any idea how to set one up. One of the reasons I keep putting off getting new equipment from Comcast is that our DVR is constantly 90% full with stuff we eventually get around to watching, but by the time we do, we’ve recorded enough new stuff so it’s constantly 90+% full (with all the stuff we keep recording). Half of it is probably stuff we could stream somehow, but it’s a pain watching stuff on our laptop. Plus I have a handful of old things recorded from up to 4 years ago, that I’d rather not delete. I know eventually I will, of course, but I just keep putting it all off.

I’m afraid all I have is a laptop, wifi, and a cable modem. - so I’m not really sure what I would need to have an external hard drive. If that’s something that can connect to a laptop with a USB connection, then I guess I could make it work, but it’s (clearly) not something I’ve tried to figure out (or had an impetus to). If it’s any indication, our 15 year old color HP laser printer finally died about a year ago, and all the new printers seem to require a wireless network to connect (rather than a direct cable) - or that’s what I gleaned from looking at low-end monochrome printers at Best Buy a couple times. So (and I say this pretty sheepishly), I’ve held off buying a new printer, not knowing whether I’d be able too get it hooked up with the other components I have. Do new printers even allow for a direct (wired) connection? Our cable box/DVR is about 10 years old, and so is the cable modem too (whatever Comcast installed when we moved in back in early 2011), so I’m not even sure how to describe our setup. The WiFi thing is newer, maybe 4 years old, when the really old one I had from Kansas City (circa 2008) died in ~2016. If that gives you any indication.

Also from 1972, Ohno wrote the title track “Go On”, from this album by The George Otsuka 5 — and he plays on the entire album (including a nice version of Joe Henderson’s “Isotope”). The album is more hard bop (than Ohno’s own debut from that same year), but his presence is pretty strong none the less... I just got this on CD from Dusty Groove a couple weeks ago. https://www.discogs.com/The-George-Otsuka-5-Go-On/release/14641851 1. ”Go On” (Ohno) 8:58 5. “Isotope” (Henderson) 5:35 I’m just noticing the entire album is now uploaded at the link below (less than a week ago). When I ordered the CD last month, I wasn’t able to find all the tracks on-line, and had to buy the album a little half-blind (I rarely buy these expensive Japanese imports unless I can sample them extensively first). Entire album: https://youtu.be/6I_H9Z2g2KA Drums, leader - George Otsuka (Ohtsuka) Bass – Takashi Mizuhashi Piano, Electric Piano [Rhodes] – Toshiyuki Daitoku Tenor, Soprano – Mabumi Yamaguchi Trumpet, Flugelhorn – Shunzo Ono (Ohno) recorded at AOI Studio on Nov 28-29, 1972

I'm no fan of downloads, I'm afraid. Trying to maintain a music collection entirely made up of bits and bytes for the next 30+ years -- making sure it ports successfully from OS to OS change, etc. - is simply a recipe for disaster in the long run. I realize physical media isn't impervious to loss in fire, earthquake, or tornadoes, etc. - but downloads seem NOT especially less ephemeral when looking at a time-frame of access, use, and enjoyment well beyond 10 years.

Completely agree, Chuck. But what does really concern me is the possibility that increasingly more and more brand new, "previously unreleased" Historical Album re-issues (really, "first-issues") -- may at some point only be available as LP's or downloads (with no CD option). There's a fantastic-looking 5-sided 3LP first-issue of a live Nathan Davis date from ~1968 -- which I would buy in a heartbeat on CD (even at a bit of a premium price). But it's ONLY available on LP, and I (presume) as a download. The original price seems to have been $60 (ouch!!), or even $80 (youch!!!), for 3LP's. $60 list: https://rollinrecs.com/nathan-davis-georges-arvanitas-trio-live-in-paris/ $80 list: https://elusivedisc.com/nathan-davis-with-georges-arfvanitas-trio-live-in-paris-the-ortf-recordings-1966-67-180g-3lp/ I would gladly have paid $25 or even $30 for a 2CD version (which, frankly, is fairly high for CD's these days). But there was NO option to even buy it on CD. It's bad enough that some titles are download only, but it's only adding insult to injury to limit releases to 23-minutes of music, and hamstrung by having to reorder set-lists, or sequencing to "fit" the LP format -- when the CD obviates all those rather limiting factors.