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Red? Garsh, that just looks all kinds of wrong visually.

I do have wifi (and I also forgot to say it wasn’t just a cable box I had, but a DVR). But I don’t have a home network, or any idea how to set one up. One of the reasons I keep putting off getting new equipment from Comcast is that our DVR is constantly 90% full with stuff we eventually get around to watching, but by the time we do, we’ve recorded enough new stuff so it’s constantly 90+% full (with all the stuff we keep recording). Half of it is probably stuff we could stream somehow, but it’s a pain watching stuff on our laptop. Plus I have a handful of old things recorded from up to 4 years ago, that I’d rather not delete. I know eventually I will, of course, but I just keep putting it all off.

I’m afraid all I have is a laptop, wifi, and a cable modem. - so I’m not really sure what I would need to have an external hard drive. If that’s something that can connect to a laptop with a USB connection, then I guess I could make it work, but it’s (clearly) not something I’ve tried to figure out (or had an impetus to). If it’s any indication, our 15 year old color HP laser printer finally died about a year ago, and all the new printers seem to require a wireless network to connect (rather than a direct cable) - or that’s what I gleaned from looking at low-end monochrome printers at Best Buy a couple times. So (and I say this pretty sheepishly), I’ve held off buying a new printer, not knowing whether I’d be able too get it hooked up with the other components I have. Do new printers even allow for a direct (wired) connection? Our cable box/DVR is about 10 years old, and so is the cable modem too (whatever Comcast installed when we moved in back in early 2011), so I’m not even sure how to describe our setup. The WiFi thing is newer, maybe 4 years old, when the really old one I had from Kansas City (circa 2008) died in ~2016. If that gives you any indication.

Also from 1972, Ohno wrote the title track “Go On”, from this album by The George Otsuka 5 — and he plays on the entire album (including a nice version of Joe Henderson’s “Isotope”). The album is more hard bop (than Ohno’s own debut from that same year), but his presence is pretty strong none the less... I just got this on CD from Dusty Groove a couple weeks ago. https://www.discogs.com/The-George-Otsuka-5-Go-On/release/14641851 1. ”Go On” (Ohno) 8:58 5. “Isotope” (Henderson) 5:35 I’m just noticing the entire album is now uploaded at the link below (less than a week ago). When I ordered the CD last month, I wasn’t able to find all the tracks on-line, and had to buy the album a little half-blind (I rarely buy these expensive Japanese imports unless I can sample them extensively first). Entire album: https://youtu.be/6I_H9Z2g2KA Drums, leader - George Otsuka (Ohtsuka) Bass – Takashi Mizuhashi Piano, Electric Piano [Rhodes] – Toshiyuki Daitoku Tenor, Soprano – Mabumi Yamaguchi Trumpet, Flugelhorn – Shunzo Ono (Ohno) recorded at AOI Studio on Nov 28-29, 1972

I'm no fan of downloads, I'm afraid. Trying to maintain a music collection entirely made up of bits and bytes for the next 30+ years -- making sure it ports successfully from OS to OS change, etc. - is simply a recipe for disaster in the long run. I realize physical media isn't impervious to loss in fire, earthquake, or tornadoes, etc. - but downloads seem NOT especially less ephemeral when looking at a time-frame of access, use, and enjoyment well beyond 10 years.

Completely agree, Chuck. But what does really concern me is the possibility that increasingly more and more brand new, "previously unreleased" Historical Album re-issues (really, "first-issues") -- may at some point only be available as LP's or downloads (with no CD option). There's a fantastic-looking 5-sided 3LP first-issue of a live Nathan Davis date from ~1968 -- which I would buy in a heartbeat on CD (even at a bit of a premium price). But it's ONLY available on LP, and I (presume) as a download. The original price seems to have been $60 (ouch!!), or even $80 (youch!!!), for 3LP's. $60 list: https://rollinrecs.com/nathan-davis-georges-arvanitas-trio-live-in-paris/ $80 list: https://elusivedisc.com/nathan-davis-with-georges-arfvanitas-trio-live-in-paris-the-ortf-recordings-1966-67-180g-3lp/ I would gladly have paid $25 or even $30 for a 2CD version (which, frankly, is fairly high for CD's these days). But there was NO option to even buy it on CD. It's bad enough that some titles are download only, but it's only adding insult to injury to limit releases to 23-minutes of music, and hamstrung by having to reorder set-lists, or sequencing to "fit" the LP format -- when the CD obviates all those rather limiting factors.

Well, not with that attitude you sure won’t.

Apples and oranges, as the comparison is purely based on revenue, and not units sold. I’d love to see the units sold numbers, side by side - though there’s no denying that CD sales are diminishing. Personally, I think it’s a crime how much new vinyl costs - over double the price for a less convenient format (for those that do prefer physical media).

Full album is now on YouTube (a single one-hour+ upload). All the individual tracks/tunes are indexed, and if you pop out to YouTube in your browser, you can skip around from track to track, like a CD. https://youtu.be/Mh425vohP8E

If I had my druthers, I’d compile a 79 minute “Best of Yusef Lateef on tenor” compilation CD. And before anyone complains, it’s just a compilation - and does nothing to limit access to the rest of his catalog.

Sun Ra alert!! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cry_of_Jazz

And worst of all, it doesn't look ANYTHING like Danny Moore...

And here's the last three tracks... 7. "Chance" (Alex Sipiagin) 7:17 8. "Blues For Wood" (Woody Shaw / Ronnie Mathews) 8:17 9. "Greenwood II" (Alex Sipiagin) 8:09

4. "Beyond All Limits" (Woody Shaw) 7:38 5. "Windy Bahn" (Alex Sipiagin) 8:40 6. "Katrina Ballerina" (Woody Shaw) 7:16

https://www.amazon.com/Baltimore-George-Coleman-Quintet/dp/B08GVGC6NG

I really love that Andy LaVerne Trio date. Did you know that in 1999 he remade the entire album with Tim Hagans added to the group? - with wonderful results. https://www.discogs.com/Andy-LaVerne-Another-World-Another-Time/release/6000964 YouTube playlist of entire album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvR5kinShQ&list=OLAK5uy_lZX3U9iSogGa3GxT6982RYxeuGR5_z8FM

Picked up a used copy of this from Dusty Groove a couple weeks ago (the "Woody Shaw" hook got me), and I'm really impressed with this date, and with Sipiagin. Hadn't ever heard/heard of him at all (except, apparently on Dave Holland's first Big Band album on ECM in 2002, the only other thing I have w/ Sipiagin -- and he's also on a few later Holland releases I'm not familiar with). Discogs has 120+(!) entries for him, so clearly he's done a lot, and I'm just now discovering him (not the first time something like that's happened). Anyway, this date is his personal tribute to Woody Shaw -- and aside from his wonderful playing, it's a really interesting take because the trio backing him has guitar (and no piano). https://www.discogs.com/Alex-Sipiagin-Generations-Dedicated-To-Woody-Shaw/release/6301001 Trumpet, Flugelhorn – Alex Sipiagin Guitar – Adam Rogers Bass – Boris Kozlov Drums – Antonio Sanchez Recorded: January 25, 2010 at RPM Studio, New York, N.Y. https://www.crisscrossjazz.com/album/1325.html About half the tunes are Woody's (or songs associated with him). But Sipiagin's originals here are all based heavily on specific passages of Woody Shaw solos, so the whole thing is really deeply in the spirit of Shaw. YouTube playlist of the entire album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWpg5bwrY2Q&list=OLAK5uy_mesFqL6FI57i-R1vfyNHxfqsgDNpV2ehU Greenwood I (Alex Sipiagin) 8:46 Obsequious (Larry Young) 5:53 Cassandranite (Woody Shaw) 5:54 Beyond All Limits (Woody Shaw) 7:38 Windy Bahn (Alex Sipiagin) 8:40 Katrina Ballerina (Woody Shaw) 7:16 Chance (Alex Sipiagin) 7:17 Blues For Wood (Woody Shaw / Ronnie Mathews) 8:17 Greenwood II (Alex Sipiagin) 8:09 I'll embed them below in sets of three... 1. "Greenwood I" (Alex Sipiagin) 8:46 2. "Obsequious" (Larry Young) 5:53 3. "Cassandranite" (Woody Shaw) 5:54

Nice lineup. And I like that cover! - which has a sort of color scheme that seems to harken to some sort of past, but one that was a bit “retro futuristic”, maybe circa 1974?

The group interplay especially on this album, is on such a high level. How many trumpeters could play like that, at the age of just 23! Not entirely unprecedented, I realize (Clifford Brown, for instance) – but I think Ohno plays with technique and lyricism well beyond his years. I see online that Ohno, plus both the keyboard player and drummer - were all 3 born in 1949 (each ~23 years old in ‘72). The bass player was born in 1947, but was still only 25. Quite an album for a bunch of early-to-mid-20-somethings to have made.

Thanks, Niko. Such a nice little track - not so little, actually. No idea what sort of umbrella it would fit, but it would be a nice inclusion on a future “Spiritual Jazz” v/a release from the UK Jazzman label - if they weren’t doing label-centric dives of late (Prestige, BN, Steeplechase, and one from Impulse is on deck next, iirc). (I don’t exactly mind the label-centric Spiritual Jazz comps, but I valued the series more when it was more obscure stuff.)

Leary’s bass solo on the track I posted up too, sure is tasty too - as are all the other soloists. I love how up-front in the mix that bass solo is - which is partially why I’m wondering if it comes from a legit release of some sort (and not just some random single-mic recording of a live performance - or even something taken off a soundboard). The sound isn’t perfect, but it is really rather above average if it’s more of a homemade sort of thing. (Maybe a self-produced independently issued LP - maybe?)

Wow, that track by Smoke is wonderful! Sure wish that was on CD. Might just have to break down and look for it on LP even. Thx!! And how funny they should come up in an entirely unrelated thread, with all the talk of Monk at Palo Alto.

Is there any kind of story about how Gilmour ended up with that short stint with the Jazz Messengers? Especially it being a European tour, and all. If nothing else, the burning question is whether he bought (had to buy) that killer suit he’s in on that BBC broadcast - ? (Certainly not Arkestra-issue attire, putting it mildly.) Did Gilmore ever mention it? - playing with Lee Morgan? Come to think of it, were/are there any published Gilmore interviews, of any sort? (Off to google to see if I can find any.)

Stumbled on this interesting 11-minute track on YouTube last week. Is this from an album of some sort, by any chance? It seems to have been uploaded by Leary (or someone on his behalf - it seems to come from his YouTube account/page). YouTube description: BAPTISM composed 1968 by James Leary RECORDED 1970 San Mateo, Ca Personnel "An initiary act or beginning" — Todd Cochran-Piano, Paul Smith-drums, Fred Berry-Trumpet, Hadley Caliman-Tenor sax, James Leary-bass And on trumpet, who’s Fred Berry? - somebody I should know? (or knew, and forgot?) This whole track is quite interesting, and I’d love to hear more by this group. Don’t know much about Leary. His Wikipedia entry, fwiw: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Leary_(musician) Not much more here: http://www.jameslearymusic.com

Now that this is just up on YouTube within the last year, it can be more easily heard and discussed. What everyone’s take on this striking debut leader-date by Shunzo Ohno? - who was only 23 when it was recorded (it seems to have been released in 1973). Trumpet, flugelhorn, compositions – Shunzo Ohno Piano, electric piano – Mikio Masuda Bass – Mitsuaki Furuno Drums – Arihide Kurata recorded Aug 28, 1972 https://www.discogs.com/Shunzo-Ohno-Quartet-Falter-Out/release/11040820 Just three tracks on CD (side 2 on the album segues), this first bare link (URL) is to a playlist of the entire album. Or each track is individually embedded below. Issued on CD just once (a SHM, fwiw) – in 2017 (on Deep Jazz Reality). Even brand new it seemed to run around $23-$25 (iirc), and I paid $30 for it from Dusty Groove (but it was worth every penny). https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Usa_qZVpty8&list=OLAK5uy_l5mp4e83QAfBqSYqrW8hmhwVK2leIp3hI 1. “Alfa” (12:39) 2. “A Mournful Scene” (6:59) 3. “Falter Out ~ Once Again” (24:31)