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Listening to this new semi-primordial version of “Take Five” - I’m pretty shocked this has never seen the light of day after all these decades. I’m not uber-enamored with this new take (though it is very interesting, historically). But I am shocked that one of the 5 best-known tunes in all of ‘modern’ jazz has an early take like this, and it’s never been issued or even leaked? I’ve never even owned a copy of Time Out in all these years (though I do have 4-5 other Brubeck CD’s) - none of which are comps (so I’ve never owned a copy of “Take Five” either). I’m not suggesting Time Out is quite like Kind of Blue - but from a popular/cultural perspective, the tune “Take Five” is probably better known by the general public than “Blue Train”, or maybe even “So What” and “All Blues”. My wife knew “Take Five” when we met almost 25 years ago, and I’m pretty sure she hadn’t ever heard Kind of Blue. “Take Five” is probably right up there with “Linus and Lucy” (what most people would call the Charlie Brown theme) — in terms of cultural penetration. And how an early alternative of that kind of tune stayed in the can all these years, is what I would call a mystery.

And the YouTube description: Time OutTakes will be available on December 4, 2020 in time to celebrate Dave’s 100th Birthday on 12/6/2020. It will contain never before heard takes from the original 1959 session. (CD and LP pre-order links) "Take Five" From the album Time OutTakes (Previously Unreleased Takes from the Original 1959 Sessions) The Dave Brubeck Quartet Dave Brubeck, piano Paul Desmond, alto sax Joe Morello, drums Eugene Wright, bass "Take Five" written in 5/4, was a time signature so new to jazz that The Dave Brubeck Quartet abandoned it on the first of three recording sessions. It's fascinating to hear on this track that the iconic drum beat wasn't set yet and Joe Morello was playing a very syncopated Latin beat. Even alto saxophonist, Paul Desmond, had not yet settled on a consistent melody. Brubeck was playing the famous piano vamp in order to hold the piece together along with the glue provided by Gene Wright on bass. It was supposed to simply be a tune that would feature the drums. This version from "Time OutTakes" explodes with one hell of a drum solo, longer than the original hit single, proving why Joe was considered one of the very best drummers in jazz.

Seriously, how was this material *not* included when they did that expanded “Legacy” 2CD version?? https://www.discogs.com/The-Dave-Brubeck-Quartet-Time-Out-Featuring-Take-Five-Blue-Rondo-La-Turk-Legacy-Edition/release/14522419

> Manfred Schoof Quintet – Light Lines (JAPO, 1978) That Manfred Schoof date is really fantastic, and I also think it is the best of his 70’s output as a leader. I found a copy on vinyl ~3 years ago remarkably cheap ($10, first JAPO LP I’d ever seen out in the wild), and a year later I broke down and got that 2CD reissue of all three of Schoof’s JAPO dates - called Resonance (on ECM). The music is quite free at times, but presented in that sort of ECM sheen, production-wise. JAPO was distributed by ECM back in the day, and the overall aesthetic of the labels was somewhat similar, I gather. It’s probably the ‘freest’ date I know of specifically with horns that won’t scare my wife out of the room.

Yeah, I think If push came to shove, we’d probably be OK eating outside (sidewalk cafe style), but we just haven’t had any even remotely good reason to. We used to eat out a lot, too much probably. Now it just seems like a luxury we feel weird doing, given all the folks struggling, (to us), we would feel tone-deaf eating out. I’m NOT saying we think that when we see others eating out. Part of it (for us) is also that restaurants here have such limited seating outside, that we just don’t feel the need to use up that limited commodity (space). We’re perfectly fine getting takeout, leaving more openings for others to eat out if they want. (But we still tip as though we’ve eaten out.)

No joke. https://www.boston.com/news/health/2020/09/23/black-licorice-death/amp

Any reports about the liners on the new Hank box would be great, especially anything even remotely revelatory (or small details not previously known). (I couldn’t justify buying the box myself, since I already had all the music on CD - every last track iirc.)

Speaking of eating out, and just as an aside: FWIW, my wife and I haven’t eaten out at all since March, not even with the numerous outdoor sidewalk seating areas (which is the *only* restaurant seating option here since the lockdown - we’re only in phase 2 here in DC). We do get takeout food about 2x/week, but we (I) always walk and bring it home (and we never use delivery services). Not a big deal, and I suppose if we had some compelling reason to eat out, I’m sure it wouldn’t be the end of the world for us. But all things being equal, it’s just been less hassle (and less worry) to always eat at home. So since March, I’m still cooking about 5-10x more than ever before. My wife and I used to cook together early on (20+ years ago) - but over those first 5 years that we lived together, I sort of naturally gravitated towards doing most and then practically all the cooking. My wife follows recipes to the letter, and I like to improvise heavily - usually taking 3-5 different recipes for the same sort of dish, and synthesizing then on the fly (which drives my wife crazy). So since I like cooking (and she doesn’t), that’s my realm. Anyway, I don’t know that we’ll be eating out again (maybe not at all) until next spring or even summer, depending on how quickly a vaccine rolls out (and I don’t expect DC to ever get to phase 4 until vaccines are widely available, and maybe not even phase 3). We don’t expect everyone (or many people) to operate like we do — but it just seemed simpler to never eat out, than to try and weigh and balance whether any particular dining experience was “safe enough” (or worth it). Our policy is just simple (simple as that). The “positivity rate” in DC has been about 3% for a month or so, and throughout the pandemic we’ve never been freaked out much about things here. I do go out grocery shopping 2x/week, and we shop at Target a few times a month (also close, since we don’t own a car). We just feel like eating out at restaurants feels inappropriate in the middle of a pandemic crisis. We still patronize our favorite independent “mom & pop” restaurants for takeout frequently, and we usually tip 20-30%.

Ok, sorry for my delay getting back to you. Vols 2-10 are all yours. I need to try and replace one of the clear cd trays (for vol 10), as one of the spindles is bent / has half broken off - but I’m sure I can cannibalize a good clear one from another CD case. I also need to systematically look at all the disc surfaces to let you know condition, but of those I glanced at, they were all pretty pristine. And I think(?) they all have their obi’s too, but another thing I need to confirm.

I’m only 51, and my wife and I have no kids. If we both perish tomorrow, I guess it’ll all go to the cat.

Not the usual sort of arrangement:

And since we know he digs Larry Young, perhaps he might also recognize the importance of John Patton? Though Grant would clearly have to be the “name” factor necessary to motivate enough sales.

Orchestral? Does footage still exist? Like, on YouTube?? Edit: this doesn’t appear to be it:

FWIW, it’s a week later, and my CD from Newport CA has still not arrived. The original scheduled arrival date was supposed to be last Tuesday (9/15) according to the first tracking info txt-msg I got on 9/8 (when it first entered their system), but the last meaningful update was that it had left LA on 9/10 (other than a generic update on 9/14 that basically said “it’s gonna be later”). Not the end of the world, but I wonder how many more days (or weeks) it’ll be. It’s 1 week late as of today.

Two more Shunzo Ohno penned tunes from Oct, 1973 - also with George Otsuka’s group... https://www.discogs.com/George-Otsuka-Quintet-In-Concert-/release/12980051 1. “Afternoon Walk” (Ohno) 21:04 4. “She Said So” (Ohno) 14:01

Is it on the Wayback-Machine site, by any chance? I do kinda vaguely remember the comments as being interesting, and often pretty helpful (particularly with obscure entries, or at least stuff I hadn’t yet heard back then).

Hi GP. I’m now 100% sure I can part with vols 4-10 (no doubts). And I’m ~90% sure I do also want to part with vols 2-3, but I want to spin them one more time this weekend, to be sure. A bit of is this material is really (a bit) more ‘out’ than I really will listen to all that often. (And keeping vol 1 should be plenty.) I’ll try and let you know for sure (about 2 & 3) by Monday.

This screwy looking URL is the actual direct address of the real (official) Woody Shaw discography, from the legit Woody Shaw website. http://50.62.230.18/discography/ There are a few things (5 total, iirc) after the Swainson session. 2-3 studio, and 2-3 live. (On my phone, or I could more easily cite them.)

Bought a CD on eBay on Sept 6 (being shipped from Newport Beach, CA). It was shipped On time and with tracking, with an USPS expected delivery date of Tue, Sept 15. I signed up for all the tracking text-msg options, to follow its progress, and the last useful update I got was on Sept 10 saying it had left a Los Angeles distribution center, but then - radio silence. I did get one generic msg on Sept 14 that is was going to arrive late, but I got the sense that it was an automated message sent whenever no new info if available (or being generated) on the eve of what was previously the package’s previous “expected” delivery date. But nothing since, and really no specific info on it since Sept 10. Not overly worried about it / it’ll probably get here at some point, sooner or later. But a question... Does a “tracking number” actually give you any (real) insight as to where it is? I’ve read online about other packages recently just “disappearing” in the system for days or even weeks, only to presumably reappear “eventually”. No super-specific question, I guess - other than tracking numbers really don’t mean much if a package just “stops” moving in their system / right? (Meaning I can’t re-enter the tracking number to find out where it actually is, because the USPS system only “thinks” it is, wherever it was when they last scanned it.)

2020, what a year.

If I might briefly hijack this thread, can anyone recommend any books with especially good 1970’s coverage? For instance, how’s this one? Bill Shoemaker: Jazz in the 1970s: Diverging Streams The lengthy description found on Amazon looks promising: https://www.amazon.com/Jazz-1970s-Diverging-Bill-Shoemaker/dp/1442242094 Would love to learn of other titles worth considering.

Chuck, I’d genuinely be curious to hear more about your characterizations/memories of having talked at a little length with Crouch. Feel free to edit/filter your thoughts as much as you like and/or feel the need to. Despite my snarky comment earlier, I’m honestly NOT looking for any red meat at all. Just whatever comes to mind / that you think might be interesting.

This one, from 1999? https://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Mosaic-Sampler/release/6171768 That’s the only one I (vaguely) remember.

I’d buy one, in a heart beat. ❤️

Washington DC is still on Phase 2, with no immediate plans to move into Phase 3 (far as I know). I think(?) we have actually met all the criteria to move into Phase 3 over a month ago (the biggest thing being a positivity rate of only 3%, for several weeks now, iirc) - but there seems to be an abundance of caution regarding opening up too quickly - which seems entirely prudent, I might add. A recent and fairy deep survey of businesses in DC and in the immediate DC metro area seems to indicate most don’t expect to have things meaningfully opened back up again until next Summer (2021). https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/15/913154140/workers-in-washington-d-c-region-likely-to-work-from-home-until-next-summer