Most interesting discussion here, thanks everyone (and particularly Jim and Karl, as usual )
But I'd rather not read silly stuff like "put Brötzmann on the stage in so-and-so stadium in front of gazillions of people and see what happens" ... I hold him in high esteem (much higher than many here seem to, I can't hear that Ayler-rip-off sheet and all that any more, and I'm also pretty convinced that his high energy thing - you might call it shtick, so be it, then, your loss - is quite unique still, and has no real counterpart in US jazz or improvised music - different discussion, different geography (as has been mentioned above, so please ahere to that, thanks), different lineage, obviously not without some cross-pollination (hey, Prince made use of 19c romantic music, too, after all, and if that's fine - and I bet it's not, at least not for everybody at all times, but - then I guess it kinda should be okay-ish at least if yurpeens play some kind of jazz, and even more so if they actually do develop their own thing, right?). Brötzmann, for one, chose the underground path and he can take it, props to that.
This is really off-topic, but I had to get it off of my chest nonetheless, after all it was triggered by some minor silliness here.