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MG, you ought to treat yourself to the "Cross Country Tour" 2CD set, just to get some of the best of Jamal's trio w/Crosby & Fournier! "Ahmad's Blues" isn't far behind, and then there's "At the Pershing / But Not for Me", which seems to be the most cherished single album, but I don't have it (most of it is in the "Cross Country" set, I think).

Yes, but no sectarian he... have you ever heard his recording of "On the Sunni Side of the Street"?

It's sad that either one of these deaths is "news". Guy Let's be careful here, Guy. They are both indeed news. What I think you mean to say, and forgive me if I'm putting words in your mouth that you don't agree with, is that they should be news of much more limited interest in the grand scheme of things when you consider all of the other shit that is going on in the world. Yeah, maybe, but with all the other shit not even barely making the news, I feel the same way as Guy does (or have you seen ample media coverage of Bangladesh on the verge of civil war? Or of their annual floods with 100'000s of dead - we just tire of that, and to some extent it's even understandable, but ethically considered, it's still plain wrong).

I think the Camden discs, at least in case of the Ibrahims, are straight reissues of the older KAZ releases, I also dimly recall the Penguin guide saying so. I have a "review copy" of the African Jazz Pioneers, forgot about that - but I don't like it nearly as much as any of the others! And I have never even heard of that book, I'm afraid, but I'll take a note, thanks for mentioning it!

Oh, sorry... good then! I should have looked up "tepid" and I would have gotten you right! For me then a reason to get it!

How's the sound on this compared to the single Cds that saw the light of day in the late 80s. I've the Storyville (muddy) and Roost Quartet sessions (ok sound) already. Is the box worth upgrading to. I can't tell, never had it in another way before... and the music is so sublime ("Imagination" on disc one, for instance - whoah!) I never bothered about sound. Maybe someone else can offer some comparison?

here's the Kippie thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=3416

There was ample discussion of these releases in the Kippie Moeketsi and Abdullah Ibrahim threads before, I think for one of them (the Kippie?) I even typed up the discographical info. A great series of discs, I have all four by Ibrahim, plus by now both "Jazz in Africa" volumes (the first one has crappy annotation, only half of the tracks are really by the Epistles - see more in the other thread, too - and the second has more Ibrahim on it), and also the great compilation "African Horns". Is there anything besides these seven discs? I have most in their KAZ incarnations, by the way, only one Ibrahim and the first "Jazz in Africa" I have on Camden.

Darfooor, is that in India? sicko world!

Larry, what's the problem with Land on this set? I love him more with Roach/Brown than on his later things with Hutcherson, his old-fashioned sound in the mid 50s is a sound I dwell in... he's terrific on "Study in Brown", I think!

That would be a Select of unreleased material of Jamal's trio with Fournier & Crosby? Or can you give a bit more detailed info?

his solo is good on itself, but it's sticks out like a sore thumb in the performance (which isn't cooking too hot to begin with). huh? so the solo of his is the best of it all? it's like I wrote: the solo is good, but it's out of place and disrupts the flow. So you get a lukewarm performance which doesn't really take off anywhere and then Big Black throws some additional crutches between the spokes. I guess another way of saying it is that his solo sucks. I still like my idea of a short Big Black Special Edittion of that un-cooking night...

Lucky you! I haven't found Bikini Tapes for a reasonable price anywhere! I almost went for it at full prize (some 35 euro over here, or even 40!) several times, so I was very happy to see it! But "Feet Music" is quite nice, too! (I have made luke-warm comments about it earlier, but I have likely been in the wrong mood for it then...)

his solo is good on itself, but it's sticks out like a sore thumb in the performance (which isn't cooking too hot to begin with). huh? so the solo of his is the best of it all? none other good on itself solos there, or not many, right? maybe we should just have a disc "Big Black's Night of the Cookers", theme, conga solo, outro for all of the too long tunes? As for Weston, he often uses conga drummers, in fact even in the trio he more often has his drummer (Neil Clark it was in recent years, I think) playing african drums as he opts for the drum kit. And Weston is the one musician where I never ask any question about congueros... he is beyond any slightest tiny bit of doubt, he's just a towering giant, only people haven't noticed that. It's not too late, as he's already going strong! I really wish he'd had that big break he deserved long ago!

Quite nice, I think! Haven't played it often enough to really say, but upon first listen, it's a good one!

Note that Malachi Thompson (and again Sonelius Smith) is on "La Dee La La", too! I think he's got one or two soaring solos! He left far too early.

I have the Jarman/Crispell duo (just above), but I never really like Jarman that much... Of the ECMs, I don't have the Peacock one, but the other two - found both of them in sales and after I was quite surprised by how much I liked the first one I got, "Amaryllis", and thus got "Storyteller", too, when I saw it in a sales bin. Pretty nice one, too. The only other thing I have is the Leo Golden Years 2CD compilation, long time I played it. And once I saw her live, with Grimes' fumbling space bass (yuck! for that sound, sorry...) and Andrew Cyrille. She was definitely the best part of that concert, a dense 80 minutes of mostly high energy playing, with her providing almost all of the highlights!

I assume you're talking of Shamek Farrah? I heard the first in the blogosphere... would have to listen again to tell you more, it didn't really impress me that much as I remember, but I mgiht have been in the wrong mood when I tried it. Here's an AAJ review of the first of the three:

What where the Newport tracks paired with? Haynes with Weston, that's at least interesting, and anyway good to see another disc out with Haynes!

http://www.ejazzlines.com/c847/RANDY-WESTO...ICA-p54996.html Thanks, I'd been searching around myself while you already posted.

Just checked, details are up on the website - all new to me, no idea where this had originlly been released: Trio & Sextet From 52nd Street To Africa - Randy Weston Featuring: Randy Weston (p), Ray Copeland (tp), Frank Haynes (ts), George Joyner, Bill Wood (b), Gilbert G.T. Hoogan, Lennie McBrowne (d), Big Black (conga) REFERENCE: FSRCD 433 | BAR CODE: - | PRICE: 9.50 € Although he has achieved neither the popularity of Peterson nor the mystique of Monk, Randy Weston is one of the most important contributors to modern music, both as a pianist and as a composer. In the 1950s he became one of the first soloists to compose and perform jazz successfully in waltz time. He was also among the earliest to bring to his music a sense of the importance of his African heritage, in his search for "the real link between Africa and American jazz. This is the link I want to get into", he said. "I feel it will really make jazz grow". While many of his works illustrate either one or the other of these initiatives, Weston has also retained his ties with the swinging essence of jazz represented by the Gillespie-Parker school of the 40’s. Tracklisting: 1. Announcement by Allan Morrison 1:01 2. Hi-Fly 6:39 3. Expert From Bantu suite 9:27 4. Beef Blues Stew 6:31 5. Introducing by Allan Morisson 0:42 6. Machine Blues 4:33 7. Blues For Strayhorn 10:34 8. Sad Beauty Blues 10:44 9. Afro Black 18:06 Randy Weston Trio: Tracks 1-6: Randy Weston (p), George joyner (b), Gilbert "G.T." Hoogan (d). Live at The Newport Jazz Festival, July 5, 1958. Randy Weston Sextet: Tracks 7-9: Ray Copeland (t), Frank Haynes (ts), Randy Weston (p), Bill Wood (b), Lennie McBrowne (d), Big Black (cg). Live at Both/And, San Francisco, October 1966. All tracks composed by Randy Weston.

What's that Randy Weston disc? Not a repackage of Freshsound's own Dawn reissue, I hope? That's the only one from that time that's got trio and group (quintet? not sextet, I think) tracks on it I can think of...

funn you just bought "Feet Music"... I found this one on sale (12€, approx.!!!):