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Is this the thread to discuss the music? Or would that be the other one (formatting problem-thread)? Whatever, let's start here... I picked up this box while doing some frustration-shopping (having lost at 120GB drive containing around 95-100 GB of FLAC-compressed and not yet backed-up music files...). Discs 1-4 I have listened to, so far, and wow! I knew the sides from "The Great Ray Charles" and the sessions with Milt Jackson (I *love* Billy Mitchell! He's one of the reasons why the Thad Jones Mosaic is so tasty!), but most of the rest was new to me. I loved the early sessions on disc 1, and of course I love the jazz sides. It's a kind of jazz that you won't hear elsewhere, very soulful (yet not in the groovy, finger-poppin' style, rather soulful and bluesy), and no one is showing off here. Same applies to the Fathead album (which I've heard for the very first time on Saturday). Another terrific set new to me is the Newport appearance - love "In a Little Spanish Town"! Sound is terrific, beginning with the 1952 sessions. I'd dare to say that there are not many sessions from '52 that sound so good! The book is very nicely done, too. The only thing I miss there is some short descriptions going with the photos. As for the programming/sequencing, I don't care it's not in album sequence. The only album I had before, that I assume being a "typical" Charles fifties Atlantic album is "The Genius of Ray Charles." Still my guess is that even if I knew more of the original albums, I don't think the chronological sequencing could be bettered by any alternative. The only thing I don't enjoy is an aspect of the packaging: if you put the discs into the box as I figure they should be put in (they were all loose when I picked it up, so I don't really know), you have trouble getting the ones lying lowest out (discs 4 and 8, I assume, rather than 1 and 5, but as I said, I took them all out and had to figure out first how to put them in properly). All in all, though, this set is a definitive winner!

At least you haven't lost your humour! All the best, Alan!

Thanks for specifying, Mike!

how about giving the Wilen credit to the Gil Cuppini album? ← I thought so, but he's smoking on the Lewis/Distel - a close call, though! some others: J.R. Monterose on René Thomas' "Guitar Groove" Bill Evans on Mingus' "East Coasting" Clarence Shaw on Mingus' "Tijuana Moods" Doug Watkins (tough call!) maybe on "Introducing Lee Morgan" John La Porta on "Mobley's Message"? (don't know that many of his appearances, but there he kills!)

Anal had nothing to do with it, my Dear It's all done with googling and a good memory! ← c'mon, be a sport and admit that now you made order in your music room, you got your albums stored by MM-DD-YYYY!

Carlos Ward on Abdullah Ibrahim's "African Marketplace" Stanley Turrentine on Kenny Burrell's "Midnight Blue" Lester Young on any Basie side he's soloing on, '36-'39

Interesting thought! And indeed, it may be true, I think! I mean, the others were regulars of some sort, while Hank Jones was a bit odd man out, no? Woody Shaw on Hank Mobley's "Thinking of Home" (just got it, Woody blew me away!) Art Blakey on that Grant Green date with Sonny Clark (mainly because of "It Ain't Necessarily So") Barney Wilen on Sacha Distel/John Lewis' "Afternoon in Paris" Herbie Hancock on "Miles Smiles"

The Bags or the Wynton? If it's the Bags, thanks, I wasn't aware of that!

may I ask - do you guys have some kind of anal-retentive database that allows you to run a search for recording date? would someone of you come and catalogue my discs? there may only be 4 to 6 thousand (can't make a closer guess, sorry...)

Milt Jackson, "Plenty, Plenty Soul" (Atlantic US late 80s CD reissue) - the musician listing for what was originally side 2 does not include the pianist (Horace Silver, I think).

Happy Birthday!

Playing this one right now, with Clifford in fine form:

Hey, there's only one real (and tasty!) Budvar!

My guess is you won't need it, but I don't know. You can compare yourself, here's the discography of the Proper set: http://www.propermusic.com/popups/PROPERBO...discography.htm

Ray Charles box Hans Koller - Jeanneret Tapes Dexter - The Panther Hank Mobley - Thinking of Home

Too true, yes! And go catch it again. I think the restored version was done by the Berlin or Munich Filmmuseum or whatever there is... they will certainly show that one at the Cinemateque!

I have no idea what is out on DVD, but here are a few other favourites: "Man Hunt" (1941 - picture above taken from that film) "The Woman in the Window" (1944 - one of the most beautifully photographed, and image-wise, not necessarily story-wise, darkest noirs I've seen) There are more that I've seen, but these two are the ones that come to mind immediately (besides M and Metropolis and the Mabuse ones). I think I've also seen "Scarlet Street", but I don't have any vivid memories, same, I think, for "Ministry of Fear". Then there's "Hangmen also die", a curiosity, rather than a great film. Poor BB (not Brigitte Bardot, mind me, but the author of the famous "Ballade...") was one of the script writers of that one.

Thanks Pete! I have that Norfolk date (of course I got it all via your fantastic seeds)!

I think you're right. However, you can't deny that as a piece of art, "Metropolis" *is* fascinating, no? And all those modern hollywood flicks making use of the vertical (like that stupid sci-fi film that put Milla Jovovich on the map) owe a lot to "Metropolis" (in fact they just stole from it).

I wonder what he'll do to them meaty broblopps!

I just saw this for the first time a couple of days ago. It is a profoundly moving, beautiful film. I went out and bought it the next day. The Criterion Collection DVD is fantastic! ← I was in trance when I left the theatre after the film had finished. Definitely one of my very very dearest films. The home edition here has two DVDs, the first with the film, the second with deleted scenes (including director's audio comments), interviews with Wong and some of the main actors, stills, trailers, posters... quite nicely done. I would recommend seing this film in a theatre first, though. I haven't dared watching the first DVD yet, being afraid of disillusion. Not sure the colour scheme and everything works out on the small screen... Oh, and those south of the border songs by Nat Cole are sooooo beautiful! So are Maggie Cheung's dresses...

I liked M better than Metropolis, though I was positively surprised by both films. (I'd recently seen both Nosferatu and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, both of which hadn't aged very well.) Guy ← Yes, "M" is the true masterpiece! But I saw a restored version of "Metropolis" in a theatre, with a live band (violin, piano, drums), and it was a true event. I think it was the first time that restored version was ever showed in a theatre, too... But "M" is a much better film, I agree. I disagree on both "Nosferatu" and "Dr. Caligari" - love them both. There's also Murnau's "Faust"... great stuff!

So brownie, what would you say, is it Dolphy at all? I am well aware that pre... what, 1960? Dolphy doesn't really sound like Dolphy a lot, so it may be a difficult call... Any more info on that last quintet date? Newport we all have, I assume, but I'm not sure about that one...

and what will you do with her?

Want proof about Miles? First he embraced this: But less than a decade later he embraced this, and that was *almost* nouvelle vague, I guarantee: ample proof I say, that Miles would allow taping! in my last seance, he said, whispering, "fuck owner rights, yo mf!"