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Thanks Pete! I have that Norfolk date (of course I got it all via your fantastic seeds)!

I think you're right. However, you can't deny that as a piece of art, "Metropolis" *is* fascinating, no? And all those modern hollywood flicks making use of the vertical (like that stupid sci-fi film that put Milla Jovovich on the map) owe a lot to "Metropolis" (in fact they just stole from it).

I wonder what he'll do to them meaty broblopps!

I just saw this for the first time a couple of days ago. It is a profoundly moving, beautiful film. I went out and bought it the next day. The Criterion Collection DVD is fantastic! ← I was in trance when I left the theatre after the film had finished. Definitely one of my very very dearest films. The home edition here has two DVDs, the first with the film, the second with deleted scenes (including director's audio comments), interviews with Wong and some of the main actors, stills, trailers, posters... quite nicely done. I would recommend seing this film in a theatre first, though. I haven't dared watching the first DVD yet, being afraid of disillusion. Not sure the colour scheme and everything works out on the small screen... Oh, and those south of the border songs by Nat Cole are sooooo beautiful! So are Maggie Cheung's dresses...

I liked M better than Metropolis, though I was positively surprised by both films. (I'd recently seen both Nosferatu and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, both of which hadn't aged very well.) Guy ← Yes, "M" is the true masterpiece! But I saw a restored version of "Metropolis" in a theatre, with a live band (violin, piano, drums), and it was a true event. I think it was the first time that restored version was ever showed in a theatre, too... But "M" is a much better film, I agree. I disagree on both "Nosferatu" and "Dr. Caligari" - love them both. There's also Murnau's "Faust"... great stuff!

So brownie, what would you say, is it Dolphy at all? I am well aware that pre... what, 1960? Dolphy doesn't really sound like Dolphy a lot, so it may be a difficult call... Any more info on that last quintet date? Newport we all have, I assume, but I'm not sure about that one...

and what will you do with her?

Want proof about Miles? First he embraced this: But less than a decade later he embraced this, and that was *almost* nouvelle vague, I guarantee: ample proof I say, that Miles would allow taping! in my last seance, he said, whispering, "fuck owner rights, yo mf!"

wouldn't do that... read more here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21883

yup!

Or else they're piling up in and around the sink... just as the other stuff piles up on the desk and on the floor and around the bed...

oh hellyeah!!!

You're welcome! Oh, and watch your mailbox - you're gonna get some ..... well, before Xmas! ← I will... still 10 weeks to go, no hurry!

I have seen both Metropolis (in a gloriously restored edition, from Berlin, I think, 2002) and M in a theatre, last year or so - terrific films! Bought this one, recently:

not that I really care, but: ← OK Switzerland proved to be a good match for the French team BUT the Swiss goal was headed against his side by Lilian Thuram ← On the other hand I've heard (of course I haven't seen a minute of the match, myself...) that once the French could only stop one of the swiss by attacking him? Doesn't exactly make a good impression! Has God turned his back to Zidane? Or was that only the media/marketing God anyway, that talked to him? Or was it la liberté? Would she speak to Arabs?

not that I really care, but:

Thanks Chris, the disc has been in for some days!

Interesting way to look at it, Chuck! For me it's: 1917-42: 6 missing (I know I know...) 1943-59: 2 missing (Manne & Mulligan) 1960-79: 1 missing (Sun Ra) 1980-00: I have 2 of these (Jarrett Vol. 1 & Dave Holland) Would be fun if others posted their haves and not-haves, too!

I think you have to apologize because some of the pasta's names in the picture are not correct. ← bowties? angel hair? corkscrews? wheels, shells & ruffles? wtf? those 'mericans again... (I had penne rigate for dinner, with fresh tomato sugo...) now on topic: if I ever behaved really bad, it was in that annyoing incident that stirred quite a few waves here, but even then, I tried not to be too harsh.... that does not mean I succeeded, but in general I do agree with pasta that we should try to behave. On the other hand, trying to behave also means pointing out if someone does not. Now on to driking a couple of Guinness (seriously)! cheers! ubu

Rare LP no doubt, but that cover was used on the CD issue (still, kind of a "seldom seen" CD ). ← ...yet still a great one!

your or the croc's relatives?

And on the Andorran issue: of course I have the Decca set, not the Definitive, of the Basie material - and I think the same argument you (Fer Urbina) used with regard to the Satchmo best of could be applied to any Decca Basie 1CD compilation...

Let me complain a bit more, too... I'm ubu roi, so I'm a little bit French (and Polish), too... First: thanks for chiming in, Fernando! (Are you a nobleman? Glad you're not French, then, otherwise your ancestors may have been beheaded... ) About Taylor: "Nefertiti", the 2CD live recording from Copenhagen should definitely be part of the 25 discs, in my opinion! "Unit Structures" is a fine choice, and probably a very important album - even more so with your criterium to list albums that represent a new style of music at its very early stage. But just that point (new music) makes me bitch once again about Wynton and David Murray (and, sorry to put them in the same pot here, but also about Keith Jarrett - his trio is magnificient, but there's not much new there...). What's new about the neo-classicists? I'd rather see musicians like Taylor honoured than those that didn't bring anything new. I agreed above with Agu's statement that one cannot simply ignore the neos, but then, in this case at least, one has to ignore the criterium of choosing albums that represent new styles of music. Being a bit of a devil's advocate here... not that I strongly disagree with this list! For me, personally, it's fun to create and discuss such lists, but then actually I don't need them. I can see that they are useful for neophytes, though (I used similar lists, too, when I got into jazz as a teenager and had to decide which discs I should spend my little money on...)

Forgot to mention I also got a copy of this one: And it's excellent! These guys are truly fantastic! The combination of reeds, trumpet and bassoon allows tons of different nice sounds. Really a music of their own, like I never heard before. Having Yaremchuk in on this one makes for more reeds and an even broader sonic spectrum. John: sounds like you had a great time with Brötz! Good to hear! After having heard David's take on the quartet's concert in Geneva (McPhee, Kessler, Zerang), I skipped their Zurich concert, so I still haven't heard/seen Brötz in person...

But you can´t avoid considering the neo-bop/neoclassicism/whatever thing. It´s also an important part of the last 25 years. Be sure that Jorge LG, who was the person in charge of this period (though all of us has discussed and helped in every decade), is the guy with the most open-minded, wide, profound, clear and personal vission of the last 30 years in jazz that I´ve ever met. And this is not shameless promotion! ← Well, I'm ready to believe that, sure! But my point is: there has been *much* music performed and recorded in those years that is *much* more interesting than *any* of the neo-whatever stuff. Of course the problem is that jazz has gotten so fragmented in these years. There's the modern mainstream (with guys like Golson and Woods and whoever, many of those were still around by 1980 and some are, still today), there's what grew out of fusion/jazz-rock (covered in your selection by Steve Coleman), there's the neo-cons (Wynton et.al.), there's free jazz of many styles (Brötz and them Germans, the downtown scene - not really covered by including a Masada disc, I think, although Masada certainly deserves inclusion! - and many more local scenes... Chicago, Bay Area, whatever... much of the interesting music not coming from the US...) - it's virtually impossible to do it right for those years and I think you did a good choice for those years, all in all! I would maybe tend to be as polemic to exclude them neos, and instead include an album or two by mainstream guys who still do (did) what they always did, unlike them young ones trying to do what the old ones always did and thinking they were better at it... but that's just my opinion. And I'd be in trouble to pick one or two essential albums (but then I would not rate any Wynton as essential, either)!