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Lon, go see Wong Kar Wai's "2046". I didn't find it an equal to "In the Mood for Love", but it may still be one of the best movies to come out, recently (while "In the Mood for Love" may be one of the best, ever... my opinion, of course, but I gather that - outside of this board - I'm not alone...) A shot from the film: Another still that is from one of the best scenes of the film:

Another big fan of "Cross Country Tour" (and "Ahmad's Blues", which has a few more of those great sides with Crosby/Fournier), I haven't checked out too much of Jamal's recent stuff. I saw him once live, though, back in 2001, and he was pretty good. The trio was the one mentioned above (Cammack/Muhammad) and Muhammad had some great things going on that night. Jamal, indeed, did a lot of what Jim describes above.(*) This did, sometimes, end up in a terrific groove, sometimes end up in a dead-end, though. However, after half an hour, George Coleman was added for almost an hour more (looooooong festival set, almost 90 minutes) and that was something else! To see the man whom I've loved since my teens, knowing him from the Miles 1964 Concert twofer... that was a great night! And Jamal had to do a couple of things outside his usual bag with Coleman there, too. (*) the Jamal trio as an "inside" edition of what "The Necks" do? Just a thought, maybe totally off mark...

Love Maggie Cheung... ubu

now on to catesta-pated: I had my share of laughs and giggles on Jarrett... Not Woods on #6, not Garland either, but I can hear some of it in the chords he plays during the horn solos. However, I think his own solo shows more of Timmons (as someone has noted above, already). And why the hell do you all think "Hamp" on "Mop Mop"? Is he just the one obvious name for the style, or do you really hear a lot of his influence in this vibist's playing? Guess I'll need to re-listen again... And I'm glad that #15 is a favourite, because that's one of the very few and select cuts there's more of to be found (only sort of, though pretty close...)

Time for some lengthier reply to some of your post, Jim: Love that comment of yours about the melody - that may indeed be the core of late Webster (I ADORE those dutch recordings that were fairly recenlty reissued on a Blue Note 2CD set, for just that). As I said: here you get them cuts. Nothing more to be had, not Chu (tenor has been identified by several persons, but no one came that close to grouping these three together as you. on that, on Choo. Don't know if there's more of this around. These guys are all totally unknown, no Americans at all. Dig couw's comment about stiffness and adjusting (no need to do that on your end, though ) to get an idea... and check EKE's post right at the start of the thread to see the names of the guys made allusion to. I love this cut a lot. The alto is NOT Sonny Red, he's virtually unknown (not over here, but...). The trumpet man and the pianist (who does some feghing great stuff elsewhere on the disc are known, the drummer is feghin' famous, so to speak, so try again, someone, try just a little bit harder... (it's not Janis' drummer, though ) Feghin' great, isn't it! And I'm happy to report I hunted down one of the two CDs EKE linked to above and can safely tell: not from there! Now here you're just plain wrong... Check everybody else's comment to see how you should have gone all fegh is this great! Interesting that Sauer pops up a second time here! I hardly know his playing, and this is not him. Can't tell if there has been an influence. I never looked at this cut as being a hardbop interpretation of a Coleman theme (that was maybe too obvious for me to notice). I always considered these guy not just yet ready for the task (so did several others in their responses, interestingly - in a similar way, btw, than about "Mop Mop", just a couple of decades later). However, I guess this one makes A LOT more sense the way you look at it! Also the two of these guys appear elsewhere, splitted, I may say Harriott's indo-jazz stuff... well, they are in an alltogether different bag, much more loaded, if you know what I mean. This one is direct, straight, nothing here that may clog things up, and that naiveté yes, I can hear it, and I think it adds to the freshness and purity of this cut. Oh wait, here comes that freshness again Quoting this again after your comment on #13: thanks for seing this two cuts as focussed! So do I, but some do disagree here... I really thought I'd pick the "freer" stuff in a way that may not piss too many off in too harsh a way, and it worked with some, in regard to some cuts (the ones in question, I think, are #10, #12, #13, and maybe #16, which was liked the least). Pretty much same opinion here. Just wanted you to hear this pianist, and that one cut is indeed a helluva good one! The "Blue in Green" similarity has escaped me so far, will have to re-listen. Note that (as far as I can tell) you're only the second poster to nail the french horn! I love the french horn, and I think this guy is one of the best around these days. The band was a mix of stars and working guys, but then among the working guys, some are here appearing on instruments that they don't usually play, so things are a bit special in several respects. I tellya these guys DO have team spirit! Saw them live once and they're freakin' mad! This is sort of a free track in disguise. I love it. The guitar has that sweet sound, and the whole group sound is not too far off, but still there's a lot going on. The bass player is another impressive youngster (so are the other two) that I'm quite fond of and have seen in a few different settings. :g :g A bunch of thanks, Jim, for taking the time to write up these notes (and even more for sitting down and caring for the music!) ubu

Nope, no Ribot here! Surprise guy, but a good one! I like the drummer and bassist equally well.

Hey Milan, where are you? Tell 'em!

That's what it seem like, and I think I'll do the same as you, Brad. Though for 20$ they're a steal! In stores here they're around 60$ which is hilariously much for 3 CDs!

No Hamp in sight

Nope, sorry I forgot to tell you about Ferris. The 'bone is a young Swiss guy... I assume this doesn't help any, though

Not Captain Joe Handy, not Joe Lovano... I guess #12 should be a big surprise, guys! Jim: on #2 (and the voices heard are heard performing, too, so... guess what, you were close, indeed!) On "Blood Count" - I am not even sure I have any version of it with Johnny Hodges, neither do I know Getz' take (but I'm aware that he did a highly regarded version). I wanted to present the tenor player to you all, but I guess I chose the wrong track... ubu

Jim, I really enjoyed reading your guesses and ideas! Now, I guess it's time for me to step forward and make on little thing clear: #2-4 are from the very same date - and for what it's worth: it's all there is from that date, so you got it now, folks! That cut which now had another guess on Don Ellis (not him) - I'm sorry about the sound there. It's from the air, not from a tape, thus no wear, rather I probably fucked up some settings when doing the transfer to the HD in order to get it onto CDR. #12 is not Joe Harriott, btw, but that's another interesting guess! ubu

Time to deliver those hamburgers, buster! ubu (hungry as a, well, guess, not a polka-dotted giraffe, for sure...)

Daniel, great idea to have a thread on Solal! I got Vols. 1-3 of his Vogue recordings (will have to get the disc with Bechet and Vol. 4 soon, too), then the album of the week disc, and one another trio disc that is similar to the earlier AotW: As you see it has Peter Erskine on drums, and also Marc Johnson on bass. Strong playing by all involved! I once saw Solal live, in a trio with Johnny Griffin (probably drunk) and NHOP. They all were clearly not having the best night, Griffin very tired and lacking ideas, lacking the slightest spark, actually, but Solal did turn in the stray good solo, though the highlights usually were the bass solos... strange night! I mean I love Griffin and Solal and I find NHOP okay (but far from my favourite bass player), yet that night I was looking forward to his solo spots the most. I will definitely have to check out more mid and late Solal, in solo and with large ensembles (of which I haven't heard anything but the few sides on that one Vogue disc). And of course, me being a fan of the Jazz in Paris series, I have several of those discs where Solal plays as a sideman, and usually is very good! ubu

Each one I have has french notes followed on the next page by English notes. Since I haven't read or spoken french since the late 80s, I can't say at first glance if the english notes are the direct translation or are a different set. They are translations, yes. So it looks like there is indeed a run of 5000 of these, and the US discs are part of that same run. I have no issues with the packaging at all, by the way. I like it!

Happy Birthday, Tom!

I haven't left. But I guess I will take a step back now. And please don't come with any more of those "chill out" "relax" "get a life" etc comments - we've had our share of those last night, and it got awfully chilly, for me at least.

.... with a big purple lipstick mark on his cheek. Thanks (I couldn't shut that dreaded computer down... it IS getting late)

business-related. but as he's left for good now, it doesn't matter anymore. see the moderated-aric-thread for more.

And I'm going to sleep soon... the nightly short nap of four or five hours ahead... just so much now: che dropped a pm, maybe we can sort it out, maybe not. I cooled down, and I do appreciate some positive posts (as opposed to the "chill out man"-posts which temporarily made this quite a chilly place). So thanks & good night from the what? Ah, blue polka-dotted giraffe...

I don't think DizzySpells is actually a new member. Dizzy is not new at all, no. We're cool, rachel (only I need to catch up with all that Prince stuff lying around while you obviously are listening to it...) Thanks Daddy Pop for *getting it*... I didn't want to complicate things even more by posting links and shifting the focus of this thread even more. Noted & appreciated. ubu

It would be nice to finish up a couple of projects. I've been meaning to get this gum out of my hair all day. Let that gum where it belongs and make an entry over there.