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I really like this one too Jazzmoose, it is a cut above the usual all star session.

Some ruminations on the original poster's question. Yes, I am also confused by the near idolatry that Mobley gets particularly on the old BNBB. I acknowledge his talent, but I think we would all agree that he is not the improvisor that we have with Rollins or Coltrane. Given that we could call him a "second tier" tenor player of his generation, I marvel at the amount of cyber ink Mobley gets over players such as Sonny Stitt and George Coleman, also "second tier" tenor players who in my opinion are much more talented. I think that the Blackhawk recordings (I only have the late 80's releases and don't plan to upgrade)points out some of Mobley's weaknesses. I was playing the tune Walkin' from those Cds. I note Mobley's solo is about 6 minutes, longer than Miles's solo or Wynton Kelly's,which is by the way, longer than his solos from his Blue Note recordings. I note a certain rhythmic uncertainty, and that band demands you get into the pocket so to speak. Also I note a fair number of hard bop cliches and then after about 4 minutes, I thought really Hank you don't need to play another chorus, but he does and then does again and I find my attention wavering, because he's not really adding anything. I then jumped to his justly acclaimed Soul Station cd (also with Kelly and Chambers, by the way)to play "this I dig of you" and note the solo is shorter, more cohesive, and he seems in the pocket, and great composition and good solos. I then played "four and more" and "my funny valentine" from a couple of years later and marvel at how much more riveted I am by George Coleman's solos. SO, bottom line, I recognize the talent, but yes I am also mystified at the level of fanaticism that surrounds him.

I am not clear on everyone's posts whether they think the regular CD layer is also fairly bad sounding as much as the SACD layer. Is the Cd layer really not as good as the MOFI? anyone compared them?

Has anyone compared it to the French 24bit digipak version?

anyone else compared the newest "Motion" with the 3 cd set? As I said in an earlier thread, wasn't too crazy about the reverb, but other aspects were nice.

yes, I was there during the same years-so I'll bet we crossed paths. Record Revolution is the bigger of the 2 stores on Coventry. You may remember this store actually has a number of famous rock group signatures at various places on their walls. And I have been in Burton many times too. I remember it being well known for the Amish community. I grew up in this area and so have a lot of fond memories. Sorry yours weren't so good. Ever go to the Smiling Dog Saloon on Cleveland's west side-great jazz bar. I was saw Dizzy Gillespie and Oregon and Miles (how's that for eclectic) in the early 70's

Hey Lon, When you bought albums in Coventry section of Cleveland (technically it is Cleveland Heights) was it at Record REvolution or the Record Exchange? I'll bet we crossed paths. what years were you there? Were you at Case?

I picked up used copies of these Verve Cds scheduled for release next week. Motion- is a record that I just love and I think the music is some of the best jazz around. I have the 3 cd set and compared it. Initially I thought the sound on the new single issue better and the instruments seem more real and there is more of a sense of space around them. However, the alto has an annoying echo or reverb that detracts from my enjoyment. Interestingly, Verve chose not to include any extra tracks which they had done on the previous single cd, not even the extra tracks with Elvin. I am torn on this one because of the echo. NY Jazz- this is one of Stitt's best in my opinion. It is just so much better than say "Only the Blues" or "Plays Bird" or half a dozen other cds in print that so many rave about. It is a collection of nice blues originals by Sonny , standards, hard bop, no surprises - just very well played and the band includes Basie drummer Jo Jones. this one's a monster and a must for Stitt fans. Curious how others react when they get these.

thanks guys for your comments.

Apparently, on CD what is available is a german import with no extra tracks or a UK version dated 2003 which has alternate takes and claims to be recently remastered. Are the alternates valuable? Has anyone compared these sonically?

My thanks to everyone that commented.

Wondering if they sound a lot better than the US versions?

Dmitry, I have gone to several and the setting is really beautiful and the sound system is very good. I remember particularly memorable gigs with Sam Rivers, the Paul Motian Trio, Joe Lovano Quintet, and Steve Lacy. Some people get good seats under the tent, others sort of picnic on the lawn and talk. If it is very hot, the tent can get a bit hot and I remember sweating a bit one year. The concerts used to be from about 1:00 to about 10:00pm with four or five acts. so it's a long day, but they have clean bathrooms and good food. Also, for those without cars, they have a shuttle bus that runs from the Metro North train station to Caramoor, however it only runs at the beginning and the end of the concert. I would say if you like the lineup, you may enjoy it!!

Can anyone tell me how to do that?

This is a rare, excellent sounding audiophile version of what is available by RCA in the US. Unlike the US version, this japanese Cd (jewel box, not mini-lp) has the original color photo form the LP of Duke in front of the band and the original liner notes as formatted on the LP. I haven't compared it sonically to the US version, but my general experience is the Japanese are superior. I will offer it at twenty five dollars delivered in the US.

These are the Signature CBS Special Products cds, not the Collectables. These are two cds, catalogue number AGK 39137 and 40012. Great live Ellington. Offer them for twenty five dollars us delivered anywhere in the US.

I wish to offer this set for the best reasonable offer. It is in excellent conditio: the 2 cds, the booklet and the box. The two cds contain: Complete Communion, Symphony for Improvisors, and Where is Brooklyn?