John B

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No, not yet. I'm guessing you would recommend this disc? Yes John, you are guessing correctly Absolutely. Please stop beating about the bush...how do you really feel about Vintage Duets? As Chaney said, consider it ordered.

Hold a mirror up to that thought. Exactly. Actually not! If we talk about influences, yes, of course, but if we talk about "hearing" someone in someone - you can hear Brötz in Hawk looking at it (or rather: listening to it) now, with the benefit of knowing Brötz and all the post-Hawk saxophone history. ubu I have heard a lot of Brotzmann, but almost no Hawk. Those of us coming at this music "backwards" (chronologically) could hear a lot of Brotz in Hawk, even if we understand the river was flowing in the other direction. That said, I have a bunch of Hawk at home that I haven't gotten around to listening to yet, which I'll have to start to remedy this weekend.

What if we start a third thread about this thread, which is about that other thread? A sort of meta-meta-thread?

Errr... Dan, it's not meant to be funny or rodent-related - the title refers to a Peter Brötzmann album. NOW you tell me.

Has anyone here heard this set yet? It is two discs, recorded live at the Georgia Theatre last year. The setlist looks great: Disc 1 1 Kam-ma-lay 2 Gonna Move 3 Volunteered Slavery 4 Sahib Teri Bandi - Maki Madni 5 Leaving Trunk 6 I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel To Be Free 7 Angola 8 Feel So Bad Disc 2 1 For My Brother 2 Sonido Alegre 3 Joyful Noise 4 So Close, So Far Away 5 Freddie's Dead I'm curious how their takes on Volunteered Slavery and Angola turned out. I saw the DTB live back in '97 or '98 and they did a great version of Afro Blue, so I have high hopes for these performances. The set is only available online, either on itunes or through Derek's website. I already ordered a copy, as the set was on sale for $9.50. I haven't really followed the DTB but, for less than $10, I'll take a chance on this release. Any reviews or opinions on this one?

Very interesting! Another disc where I was unable to guess any of the tracks. I've had the Paolo Fresu and the Chano Dominguez discs on my "to buy" list for quite a while based on recommendations I received. I was underwhelmed by the Fresu, and will hold off on picking up that album, but the Dominguez was great! I'll have to track down a copy of it soon. Thanks again for putting together this BFT! Not all of the tracks are to my liking, but I really enjoyed listening to this.

Oh yeah... That's one of the best discs I've purchased in a long time. Highly recommended! based on both of your comments I will add this to my list of "must hear discs.

for those of you who have been exploring and enjoying eai, I have a few recommendations to give. Gunter Muller's Eight Landscapes is a solo disc, very much in the same vein as La Voyelle Liquide, but with a greater variety of textures and sounds. It does not work as quite the organic whole as LVL does, but it is a fantastic album! Staying with Gunter, his album with Voice Crack - Buda_Rom is a winner. I think I prefer this to Bits Bots and Signs, which is Voice Crack's collaboration with Otomo Yoshihide on Erstwhile. These two discs represent the extent of my exposure to Voice Crack and, while I really enjoy is the more succesful of the two albums. Possibly due to my appreciation for the sounds and response Gunter brings to the table. The third disc is closer to Too Beautiful To Burn, as Martin Brandlmayr appears on both albums. On Radian's rec.extern he is joined by Stefan Nemeth on synth and computer as well as John Norman on bass. rec.extern has more of TBTBs affiliation with "rock" and with jazz based improv than the other two. At the same time I find it to be more abstract and having less flow than TBTB.

I agree with this, and would also recommend grabbing Quintet (Basel) 1977.

No, not yet. I'm guessing you would recommend this disc?

Right now I am listening to my favorite disc with Ken Vandermark: DKV Trio - Live in Wels & Chicago 1998 Disc one, in Wels, features Don Cherry's Complete Communion as the starting point for the group's improvisation. Drake, Kessler and Vandermark asre all in fine form, with some fantastic interplay and inspired blowing from KV. They really get some nice grooves going and swing like $#@&^%'s. This is a fantastic set, which is available from Okkadisk for something in the neighborhood of $15 for the 2cd set. This one gets my highest recommendation.

It took quite a while for me to "get" this disc, primarily due to Bergman. This is the only disc of his that I have and I really had to work a bit to apreciate its beauty. I don't have too much either - lethargic (and incredibly boring, IMO) solo piano Meditations (Tzadik) and fast furious (and incredibly boring, IMO) duo with Evan Parker (Black Saint). I have not had any desire to purchase more Bergman since buying The Stone House. It is most likely Drake's contributions that make this disc a keeper for me.

I think I will have to purchase this album. They cover Rahsaan and Wayne Shorter, which should be really interesting. I saw the Derek Trucks band live a few years back and they did a killer version of "Afro Blue."

Sounds interesting! Have you heard Spirits, also on Meta, with Pharoah Sanders, Rudolph and Hamid Drake? If so, how does this one compare?

It took quite a while for me to "get" this disc, primarily due to Bergman. This is the only disc of his that I have and I really had to work a bit to apreciate its beauty.

I wonder if this is the same John Oswald who did Plunderphonics and Greyfolded? What instrument does he play on that disc?

I would add Mote off of Goo and the first half of Karen Revisited off of Sonic Nurse to that list. Genetic is a great track! It's too bad Lee's solo albums aren't (from what I have heard so far) up to the standard of his best SY songs.

They have announced the tracklist for this set, and it looks fantastic! Let us know what you think of the set once you have a chance to watch it. DVD DETAILS: DISC 1: MUSIC VIDEOS - 4 music videos directed by Sergio Huidor -Tugboat -When Will You Come Home -Blue Thunder -Fourth of July TAPING FOR UK TELEVISION, London February 9, 1990 -Tell Me -Strange -Here She Comes Now -Interview with the band LIVE ARCHIVE - 20 songs from 5 shows 1) Middle East, Cambridge, Massachusetts March 19, 1988 -Oblivious -I Can't Believe It's Me -Back in Your Life (unreleased) -Buzz in My Head (unreleased) 2) Commonwealth School, Boston, Massachusetts April 21, 1989 -Tugboat -Temperature's Rising -When Will You Come Home 3) Kennel Club, San Francisco, California March 28, 1990 -Flowers -Blue Thunder -Decomposing Trees 4) Club Lingerie, Hollywood, California March 30, 1990 -Snowstorm -Plastic Bird -Victory Garden -Pictures -Ceremony 5) Kennel Club, San Francisco, California October 15, 1990 -Summertime -Spook -Hearing Voices -Don't Let Our Youth Go to Waste -Melt Away DISC 2: BOOTLEGS - Two full concerts from 1990 The Point, Atlanta, Georgia January 26, 1990 -Decomposing Trees -Pictures -Don't Let Our Youth Go to Waste -Blue Thunder -Plastic Bird -When Will You Come Home -Ceremony ULU (University of London), London, England November 15, 1990 -Fourth of July -Hearing Voices -Summertime -Don't Let Our Youth Go to Waste -Spook -When Will You Come Home -Sorry -Melt Away -Listen the Snow is Falling -Blue Thunder -Here She Comes Now Plexifilm have also made available an mp3 of one of the live tracks from the forthcoming Galaxie 500 DVD. The track is a cover of Joy Division's "Ceremony" and was recorded at Club Lingerie in Hollywood CA in March of 1990. Ceremony

after seeing Randy in concert a few weeks back I really wanted to hear this disc, but it seems to be oop. Does anyone have a used copy for sale or trade? thanks!

Using those discs would make for a hilariously awful Blindfold Test.

I read that a few years back Thurston sold all (most?) of his old punk vinyl and used the $$ to buy rare free jazz records.

PHILLYQ - they have been all over the place since they started, stylistically. I would recommend starting with one or two of these: Goo - the one that got me hooked. very accessible, great tunes Daydream Nation - Widely considered to be their most succesful album Sonic Nurse seems to be on sale everywhere I look. I think I paid $9.99 new for my copy. This would be an easy and inexpensive way to dip your foot in the waters. Sister and EVOL are also essential, but I found them more difficult to get into at first. Dirty has a lot of great tunes, and was recently issued as a 2cd set with lots of bonus material. Washing Machine is worth the price of purchase for The Diamond Sea - a sprawling 20 minute track which is one of my favorite things they have recorded. Murray Street has some great moments but I find it to be somewhat uneven. Five tracks are really fantastic while the last three lose me pretty quickly. The rest I would save until you've had a chance to explore some of the above albums.

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I've finally had a chance to spin this disc a few times and I really enjoy it. To my ears Murray Street reflects the excitement of a band revitalized bythe addition of Jim O'Rourke. Sonic Nurse is the band getting past the initial excitement and moving forward more confidently with their new lineup. Nothing on this disc has grabbed me as immediately as the first half of Murray Street did but, overall, I think it might be the stronger album of the two.