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And then Gladys Knight did it.
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Ok, I'll See Your Goofy Wife/Record Blog & Raise You...
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Sounds like she's one of us, other than the part about needing to eat more. -
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This blog goes back to 2007! -
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Did you see the Houston Person riffs? -
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What I've come to terms with is that group playing is at its best when everybody is playing it like they feel it, which is not always going to be how I feel it. Now, can I come to appreciate it and not feel it? Yes, sometimes, and sometimes that appreciation can turn into respect, which can then turn into a kind of objective admiration, maybe even a platonic love, but you know, if something hits you in the guts straight off, well, hey, that's where the personal "it" is, ok, and I make no apologies or look for any justification to note when something is - or isn't - there. Cases in point - all those conventional local/rehearsal type bands on Seabreeze, oooh, I rabidly avoid those as much a possible, because what their "it" is and what my "it" is...irreconcilable differences, your honor. But this Holman thing, yeah, uber-clean, and recorded with surgical precision, but....he's being totally true to himself, ya' know, and he had a band playing his music the way he wanted it played. The content is not cheap or trifling, even if the soloists have that "West Coast Studio" vibe to their playing (and so do the ensembles), but hell, that's who those people are, that's how their lives have been lived. These are not people, nor is this an esthetic, forged in, around, and by what has now become The Traditional Great American Jazz Paradigm, if you know what I mean. So they're pocket is not going to be THAT pocket...I could go on, but to no particularly more productive end. Same thing, though, with Toshiko. If you're going to hear her writing, you're going to have to accept that it's going to be played by - and written for - people who don't fit many of the stereotypical jazz molds. If that's a deal-breaker, so be it, fair enough, but if it's not, DAMN, that woman displayed a lot of substance, imagination, and awareness. Given that, I credit her, and Holman, with triumphs of substance over style, which I hesitate to do, because it gives a lot of people whithout nearly as much to say - and/or skills to say it with - a false sense of "rightness" about their shallowness. But dammit, credit due where credit due, if credit is to have any meaning at all, correct? As far as Kenton...I have made my piece with Kenton, on precisely those terms, and because when he had a band and a book that were equal to each other's challenges (which was nowhere near as often as I wish it was), well, that was a vision being realized. The convolutedness of both the vision and the mechanics of realization aside, hey, that was just how it happened, and if nothing else you can say that Stan Kenton's best bands playing their best material made a statement, a big, loudassnasty STATEMENT. The more that 20th Century music crawls into the 21st Century as limpotent auditionees for local tourist clown-museum space, the more I appreciate an essentially misanthropic roar that might not really understand too much beyond NO, but by god, it's a NO that will not be gotten past, and god love'em for that much.
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Jim, how does what you said above relate to your comments about the Thad Jones / Mel Lewis Jazz Orchestra in it's various periods? They increasingly moved into a pocket that was less to my immediately liking.
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Don't understand the phrase "too much precision"...perhaps not enough precision, relative to preferred pocket. But...getting in that pocket takes more precision than getting out of it does. It's not a question of amount of precision, it's a question of placement of precision, or direction of precision. This application of Newtonian measurement to quantum outcome seems to me to be not be solutionable. Tell a cat that he's not making it because he's playing too precise, odds are he'll just play the same way, only sloppier. Then it will go from sounding unappealing and clean to sounding unappealing and sloppy. Not an improvement. Not an improvement.At best a lateral devolvement, "jazzy", "authentic", anything that begins and ends with ". Goal not achieved because goal never understood to begin with, don't confuse the confused with new confusions, that's just cruel. OTOH, if that's the collective consensus of where "it" is, this uber-"precision" that does not fall into what for me is an appealing pocket yet is fascinatingly well-written (yeah, I'm looking at you, Maria Schneider), then so be it. Different strokes and all that, and congratulations on your dreams coming true, sweet dreams, see you later, if not in my dreams, fair enough. Like the old folks used to say, mean what you say, but like the kids say, know what you mean before you say it, and never stop finding new meanings in old sayings, old sayings for new meanings, and put that in your pipe and vape it, new breed smokers.
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Just assumed that Tiant was already in, kinda shocked that he's not, actually.
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You know it's Hot Stove time when a debate halfway forms about should Dick Allen be elected to the HOF. http://www.lonestarball.com/2014/11/7/7173949/poll-should-dick-allen-be-voted-into-the-hall-of-fame
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Nolan told be he was sending you a fruit basket. Has it arrived yet?
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