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Miles had already recorded two or three space-age bachelor pad albums with Gil Evans by the time of Kind of Blue. One of them before the Space Age even began! How did THAT happen! Uh oh, Claude, look out for the no oxygen zone!

Yeah, probably one of the first 50 or so tenor players (hell, maybe among the first 25 or so) I ever heard, thanks to the exposure those first Rich PJ sides got. Nice, swinging player, not at all a note machine, I still appreciate that, especially in a big band setting. RIP, thanks, and you will be remembered.

Ok, I was just goofin' about Lars Gullin - BUT - I can't say that I've ever heard anything by him that strikes me as too much more than a really fine improvisor, but more or less strictly of his time and place, kinda like Gerry Mulligan minus the unattractive American-ness..and kinda like Lee Konitz minus the attractive American-ness. Gullin advocates, give me something musical to think about, please, but not too much, please. Who was the guy who played bari with Ozzie Nelson? Tate Houston! Not with Ozzie Nelson, but still, bari palyer! And Trevor Koehler! Sad story, but also, still, bari player! But who was the guy with Ozzie Nelson? He was no Jack Washington, that's for sure, so let's hear some love for Jack Washington?

Mister Brewster Pearl Bodine Jethro Pugh

Well, looks like we got us a Series!

Ok, now make it the Kind Of Blue Martini. The more it makes you wanna vomit, the more marketable it will be, so don't be bashful or anything like that.

Thanks for elaborating! I don't really know his playing all that well yet ... any particular recommendations? Time to dig up that last Mobley rekkid again, I think ... what else? Joe's recs of the KD Time & Jaro (did he hit both of those?) & Steve Lacy Candid are spot-on, and for later work, try Super 80 on Nilva. The Mobley album is great, imo, butnot in the manner of GREAT, if you know what I mean, more like, oh look mommy, that man is pissing on the wall, and it's ok baby, that man is a genius who's just had a hard time, but mommy, it' still piss, yes baby, it is, but it is GOD'S piss, gee mommy are you drunk, don't ask baby, lust keep walking, mommy's got to see this man over here, I'll be right back, mommy, are you having a hard time too, yes baby, Mommy's having a hard time, everybody has hard times, and when we do, we piss on walls sometimes sometimes we get out of room. So if you have an aversion to seeing geniuses piss on walls because they're peoples who are out of rooms, hey, this will NOT be the record for you, ok?. Me, I love it for the blood, which is kinda like piss when it comes out like this. You can also get him on a lot of early Ra things, and Elvin's Illumination! the cat was never "high profile" for whatever reasons, but he was there, and he could play.

That THING band sounds pretty damn good to me, but I find that I enjoy that type of expression more either playing it or hearing it live than I do just sitting here staring at a monitor or staring into space listening to a record player. It's like, there's no such thing as partial absorption of this type of energy, it either goes right into you or else it goes right around you, it's not an energy that will entertain the notion of partial engagement. Jack Washington, hello!

The notion that Kind Of Blue was created as a stealth Lounge album, that it was really music for and about affluent white hipsters and/or swingers, is one of the great (and one of the few remaining) unexplored avenues of jazz scholarship. People need to start getting in line for their grants to write their book, because once this gets figured out, EVERYBODY'S gonna want to do one.

Charles Davis, man, that cat had pitch that was about as flat in tune as you can get and still be in tune. And he kinda huffed his phrases, but very distinctly so. Charles Davis on bari, now there was a voice, ok? I dig his tenor playing too, but on bari, one note, and ok, that's Charles Davis. No that "might be" Charles Davis, ya' know? I'm reaching for the comb just writing this. Play me some Hog and I will need a haircut!

Gorgeous in the stand there and look at it and say, my isn't that gorgeous sense, yeah, sure. But not in the sense of a gorgeous shrimp chile relleno. Enough pettifoolery, let's get back to naming all people who have played baritone sax, as well as some who still do!

You know who was a helluva bari player (and tenor player also)? Mario Rivera. And some more love for Charles Tyler, never enough love for Charles Tyler. I'll tell you who's a fine player but who I just don't have the personal use for is that Gary Smuylan guy, for starters. I just don't have the personal use for a lot of "today's" players, no matter what ilk of which they might be. Starting to dig basson more, except at the bottom end of a section, not sure a bassoon gets it done, can't see Doc Kupka on a basson. But otherwise. Dale Fielder, that's another guy who makes "a lot" of records, and I'm like, ok, and so? So, I recommend that you do not listen to Gary Smuylan and Dale Fielder, separately or togetherly. Why? Because I don't think you should, simple as that. Or Lars Gullin, either, for that matter, it'll get you nowhere except right back there. If that's where you want to be, then you're already there! I'll take a Mulligan, and then with pen in hand more than with horn in mouth. Now Charles Davis, yes, listen to Charles Davis, he will grow your hair and improve you ability to have the sex life. I thought fathead kicked ass on bari until I heard hog. Play a Warne Marsh record at half-speed, ok, that ends it all. Or any tenor player. Or hand your favorite foo-foo alotists a bari and show them that yes, there is manhood in Bb, deal with it. I liked Bruce Johnstone with Maynard, when I was a kid, hey sounded like Jug. Ok, "sounded" like Jug. But heart in right place, credit allowed for. Ok, who else has played bari, let's get them named. But young Ronnie Cuber, geesus, that guy was nails. He got older and remained excellent, but not as dangerously so.

Yes. Please direct all future commentary on the matter to this thread, lest we become discombobulated with discombobulation!

Hello Ronnie Cuber with Hamp in 1965, neither distrust in nor misunderstanding of the mission at hand: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15164_flying-home-hampton-lionel-1965_music And I thought I had heard bari until hearing Hog with Buster Smith.

25 Across on #2 = Arvil Shaw

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Is this the record? Discogs says this: http://www.discogs.com/Gerry-MulliganShorty-RogersChet-Baker-The-Vibes-Are-On/release/4033764 So for Shorty...Carnegie Hall?

You shoulda said DiMaggio.

Royals forgot their math tonight. 2-2 does not equal 3.-2, and 4-1 does not equal 13-4. Laugh before breakfast, cry before supper, my grandma always said. Under normal conditions, I'd say advantage, Giants, but let's see which team is 3-2 going back to KC first. And even then... But geez, get the math right, Royals. OTOH, Hunter Pence is a lot of fun to watch. But so is Lorenzo Cain!

2 Down = Bridge

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Imagine the Fischer as being the type of album Gil Evans could have made if his primary collaborator had been Lennie Tristano instead of Miles Davis. That's a gross oversimplification, but start from there and see where it goes.

fwiwimo, this is one of the "desert island" picks for this pair, somebody should want to carpe diem.

Why?