JSngry

You mean they're both dead now?

I think you got them misconfuserated with some more mid-60s Chet Baker sides for the label. Besides those two there was also Signifyin', Maintainin'. and the one on where everybody was so fucked up they pissed their pants but played the session anyway, without changing 'cause the buzz was too good, Triflin'.

True, but then you'd be frontin' instead of representin'. OTOh, any motherfucker who would change a street named after General Lee to one named after Lee Allen would get my vote in damn near any election!

I got # 7421, fwiw. Maybe somebody bade a "1" that looked like a "7"... 7419 instead of 7479?

I'd like to know who it was that was doing the dissing...although, gee, it's hard for me to conceive of a bunch of NYC jazz musicians being anything but unbiased and objective about a "competitor". I'm on record in that other thread as saying that Murray had some problems, to me, obvious problems, earlier on, but to focus on them at the expense of overlooking his just as obvious gifts is just as bad as going at it the other way around. Here's the deal - everybody wants HEROES & GIANTS because that's what used to be. Well, today...not so much, so a lot of people seem to have lost any sense of balance when it comes to "critical evaluation" (as in individual sensibilities, not "the critics", although that shoe fits quite often as well...). So when a guy puts out as much as Murray has, the gut reaction is either HE'S GREAT! or HE SUCKS! Nothing in between, which is a shame, really because that's a great deal of his work lies, and all things considered, that ain't a bad place to be. Besides, technically, he's a significantly better player now than he was in the 70s & 80s. It's obvious that the guy's been doing the work. Just good old-fashioned...labor. Not a particularly "pretty" picture, but that's how skills get got.

It's one thing not to like it. It's another thing altogether to not know the difference between real playing & warming up. Personal taste is never anything to have to defend. But personal taste and ignorance are hardly the same thing... Right?

Where you live that you can get that party started for only $20? At least w/o sharing?

The Steeplechase audition date w/Tete Motolieeuouew(sp?) audition date was, when, 1978? And Then Again - good, not great, Midnight Walk is still the best Elvin/Atlantic imo. Also more Hank/Elvin/Atlantic on the Elvin/Philly Joe album, for those who care.

It's a drag to have to go to a tux gig in a suit & tie...

Absolutely. So much knowledge in that man...

After making an attempt to notice every birthday last year, I was going to make a point to not mention any one this year. Which does not mean that there is not room for a random utterance of deep love, gratitude, and respect for the man named Larry Kart who appears to have had a birthday today. Even if his opinion about Frankie Dunlop is proof that nobody, not even this guy, is perfect. Close, though! I sincerely hope that we can have you as a guest in our home someday.

As long as you maintain a strong sense of ethics, an iPod & the internet means never having to say you're sorry (to anybody, for anything). Or finished.

If it clicked, hell yeah.

Norris Turney Gene Tunney Gene Tierney

Wesley Snipes Flem Snopes Flim & the B.B.s

"Post-Coltrane" works for me...I mean, it's not like Coltrane was the end of the music's evolution, it was just the end of (or, if you prefer, "the apex of") harmonic exploration as a foundation for improvising. after that, plenty of people found other things to do. O-BOARD SPECIFIC DISCLAIMER: Which is not to say that people still can't use harmonic exploration as a basis for "satisfying" music and such, and whatever you "like" is fine and all that, but for the "hungry spirit", once you get to looking into harmony (and I know, "listeners" don't usually give a rat's ass about this, but the musicians who make the music usually do, so it is relevant at some level), you're going to find that it pretty much has all been done (at least with "Western" harmonic systems), and Trane pretty much brought it to that point. Anybody who wants more than that has places to go now, thanks to some people, and those who don't want more than that have at least as many places to go, thanks to other people. In other words, it happened, it didn't go away, and now it appears that there is a market for historical retrospectives. Unless you're one of those who thinks that it was all one big "mistake" that was motivated by The Forces Of Evil, there's nothing to be upset about other than...live is moving on, as it always does.

The Tomato side might be "difficult" for a newbie...the intonation is very "interpretative" on that one, I think. But - Sam has a right to do that, and the grooves are killer.

You beat me too it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRyzJYvZzSk&feature=related

Oye, Chuito: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=47841&hl=madison&st=0

Paul Revere & The Raiders hold up really well.

Exquisitely put, sir!

Not a bad thing to do, actually.

That hard-panning was not untypical either...

And I'm sure that Sharon thanks you for that not being an across-the-board ideology!