JSngry

"Classical" music is a support system of its own. I'd not consider public subsidies a "failure" if the alternative is being broke. There's money to be had there, believe me.

In many ways, this is my favorite Wayne album, period. It strikes me as almost operatic, a succession of arias which Wayne sings beautifully & passionately.

A sad story: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/arts/mus...=2&ref=arts

I don't know if I do or not, there's such an extreme sonic disconnect between Trane & the overdubs that it's all but impossible for me to hear them organically. The line "I really like what you're trying to do" comes to mind, and unfortunately, because I think it's all better than that. What would be nice would be a collection of A) the original album, B) the original performances, and finally C) the original album remixed to restore a more natuiral balance between things, so it sounds like it should sound, that is, not a way-overdone overdubbing. In the meantime, I have it and I still listen to it and am inspired by it (hell, it's Trane, how could it not?). But it frustrates me still.

That's it, thank you. Kinda sounds like Mavis & Pops, or at least like they're thinking about them anyway.

Not really stupidly unclear, just...I wasn't sure what you were getting at, that's all. And now that it's cleared up, yeah, that makes perfect sense.

The marriage of Nat & Maria Cole was not a "mixed" one. They certainly had "assimilation" problems along the way, but none of them stemmed from having a "mixed marriage". There was none! Maria Cole was once a singer w/the Ellington band under her maiden name - Marie Ellington. She is no relation to Duke. i don't believe that's what Allen is talking about. Allen, were you referring to Nat's "other woman"?!? Perhaps I did not understand the implication, if there was one, that considerations of the difficulties of mixed marriages also applied to extra-marital affairs as well. My bad, and Mayor Culver!

One of the greatest "trash records" of all time!

Has the version w/the full length into ever been released legitimately/commercially, even obscurely? As always, thanks in advance.

The marriage of Nat & Maria Cole was not a "mixed" one. They certainly had "assimilation" problems along the way, but none of them stemmed from having a "mixed marriage". There was none! Maria Cole was once a singer w/the Ellington band under her maiden name - Marie Ellington. She is no relation to Duke.

Yeah, I remember the Coryell & Vinson sides, both recorded live @ Montreux iirc (was there one other?) . For some reason I thought that label was a Flying Dutchman/Bob Thiele offshoot. Obviously not. Obviously? Hmmmm....

Way back in 1983 or so, one of the WSQ, Bluiett maybe, told me that they called their music "black classical" instead of "jazz" because "classical" music got paid a noticeably higher airplay royalty than did "jazz" or other "popular" musics.

Spring Can Really Hang you Up The Most is good too, not particularly long or anything, but effective. Chris Connor did it on her Atlantic album w/Maynard, arrangement by Willie Maiden, celeste by Jacki Byard, cool shit from start to finish and back again. Once I was a sentimental thing, Threw my heart away each spring; Now a spring romance hasn't got a chance Promised my first dance to winter; All Ive got to shows a splinter for my little fling! There's little pauses in there that are quite effective too. Timing!

"You, Mysterious You" by The Originals. Words fail me on this one, other than to say that.....words fail me. There's really nothing else quite like this, at least not that I know of, especially in the Motown oeuvre as of 1969. Stunning in its subtle yet thoroughly era-bending originality, totally predictable in its subsequent obscurity. Not heard until Saturday night, and not posted until now becuase I wanted to make sure I was hearing what I thought I was hearing. I was.

Yeah, thaat one really blew me away. I was just not prepared to hear music like this with Louis Bellson in the mix and not have him "stick out" in some way.

Very true, and don't think I haven't thought of that as well, or that I've not confronted the same issues within myself. We all have, I think, a tendency to "lock into" a certain time frame and it's ways as "our way of life" and then proceed to look at everything else, past, present, and future through that lens. Totally human, but the thing for "public" expressionists such as writers is that after a diligent reader reads enough of a certain writer to figure out what that lens is, it then become easier, I think, to get a feel for when the words are actual living, breathing, semi-freshly created insights or "just" fresh pages out of the same general scrapbook. You know, with some guys, they could write about Pee Wee Russell or about Clifford Brown or about Guy Lombardo or about Stokowsky and only the details would be different, if you know what I mean. None of which is evil or anything. It's perfectly human. But it does explain why I no longer feel compelled to read, or feel compelled by, the work of Francis Davis. Even though the facts and "insights" might still be there, the...vigor is not. And he is not the only one. Me, I don't begrudge any human being comfort or relaxation. But when it come to those human beings whose work I enjoy reading (or music I enjoy hearing), I'm kinda partial to the vigor. If you can get the one and keep the other, more power to you. You win at life!

Really?!?!?! I though he was still NY area-based. Or something. Major Culver!

Thanks, Phil, you too. Good to see you in these parts again too, by the way!

Agreed. But htf did he end up hospitalized in Pine Bluff, Arkansas for a finger infection, that's what I want to know.

Found in the latest JazzCorner e-mail: Pine Bluff, Arkansas? HUH?

Ted's doing the MySpace thing! http://www.myspace.com/teddaniel