JSngry

Ive always dug the organjazz, but I've learned more about the finer points of it by listening to the experts here. Yeah, it's music first & instrument second, but at what point does developing a better discernment about the particularities of the instrument enhance the ability to hear the finer points of the music? At some, I'm sure. I know I hear things in tenor players that most non-players don't, & it only enhances my appreciation (or disdain) for the music the player's making. The goal is definitely expression, but it's done through craft. Balancing the expansion of one's grasp of both craft & expression is a good thing, no? Mr. Yannow's little bit of passive-agressive drama is ok with me (it's just one form of drama among many found here), but really dude, are you saying that you can't learn more than you already know about something you've already heard? If that works for you, fine, but... When it comes to some things that some people say, I ain't listening too close, because I already done heard all that. But when somebody hits on something I don't already know about something that I know I like, even a little, I'm taking heed and paying notes. Yearnin' Learnin'

Nifty little group.

Can't say that PIL & PT struck me as playing the same game even a little. For one thing, PT was always relaxed underneath it all, and PIL....wasn't. Must be one of those non-related parallel out-of-time universal convergence flukes of the universe things you were talking about earlier. They do happen...

Is there any reason to hope that he's a more interesting tenor player than he is clarinetist?

I wasn't aware that it was a cage match.

Despite your protestations, you be much jumpier at 13-17. Music encountered during this period "imprints" and it is up to the recipient to allocate importance. I have youthful weaknesses for Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley and even Timi Yuro. Never started a thread about this stuff 'cuz I know (and accept) what it is. Many post in the past but no response. It is very important when one encounters music and how that is folded into one's personal taste. The pop "imprinting was well underway by the time I reached those years. 13 was when the tide began to turn. 14-17 was spent listening to anything but Top 40 pop radio music, except that which was unavoidably around in the environment (and that which "crossed over" from the cave into the mainstream). Some's stayed, some's gone. 18, I got sentimental and turned the radio on again, and it was fun. Guess I had a "youthful weakness" for, a.o., Armstrong, Ellington, Ayler, Bird, Trane, & Sonny that I've still not shaken. OTOH, "youthful weaknesses" for "jazz-rock" as an umbrella style, weirdness for the sake of weirdness, and all that type of stuff have pretty much been shaken. It's fun, but that's it. And I don't mind having fun. But the meat stays, and there is meat there, whether it's to your liking or not. Weather Report & electric Miles are substantially (& substantively) different musics than "fusion" in general. Etc. etc.etc. It's a good argument in theory, Chuck, but it's only partially accurate. If you ever catch me saying that The Buckinghams were "major artists", then you can smack me down. Until then, one size (or one age) doesn't fit all. You of all people should know that.

And that's another thing - I've never seen a cat @ a bus stop w/a Leroy Vinnegar side in his bag.

Dammit, it's "lu-PEEN-o", not "lu-PAIN-yo".

Apparently, by 1974, to get to the other side: Quoth da'bastards: Judging by the title "Damn My Feet Hurt", all that walking took its toll...

Songmy is really an Ilhan Mimaroglu thing, imo, allt hings considered. Russell, remember...

Well, if you want to talk about people who got into electronics in "ways that partially transformed their musical vision", and if "taste" is not a consideration, then you gotta put Don Ellis in there. For every 10 (or 100...) pieces of gimmicky bullshit, there'd be a thing that showed real vision. Probably more trouble than it's worth finding them, but if you're so inclined, they're there.

If this is it, then it did: http://www.dustygroove.com/warehouslp.htm#21846 If it's not, then I don't know...

Figured you might enjoy it. Glad you did! Now, if you don't already have this one...

Mister DJ Mister Magic Mister Mister

No problems here w/electric Ornette. Some's better than others, ranging from great to merely pleasant, but no real problems. Probably just those damn hormones interfering w/my judgement.

Behoove!

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IIRC, Milton Berle was the host & the show was a disaster because of that.

My "hormone period"? Dude, I hope I never have a time that's not my hormone period in some form or fashion! The neutered life is not for me, thanks anyway.

Yeahyeahyeah & blahblahblah, but show me a substantive precedent for that beat distribution on side 2 of OTC and then we can talk.

What album(s) was/were that? If it's Merry-Go-Round, I might suggest giving them time. Jan Hammer's playing some very cool shit on there, even if there's a blatantly wrong note in the ensemble head of "La Fiesta" which I'm shocked that the producer didn't catch. Wait a sec - I just consulted the LP insert & saw that the producer was George Butler. Never mind.

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Life is good!

Never would have guessed Teddy Edwards. Doesn't at all sound like him to me in terms of instrumental fluidity. Oh well! Purcell in 1984? I rest my case.

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