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Pontificational, eh?

A few years ago, we stayed at a B&B in Jemez that was located in a hummingbird sanctuary. WAY cool! This is it: http://www.canondelrio.com/ but it appears to be on at least it's 3rd managment now. It was the Jemez River (the river does indeed run right beside it. Very peaceful at night) Bed & Breakfast when we stayed there. Not at all good if ytou plan on a sexual evening (there's no soundproffing in the rooms at all), but still, very romantic. Hell, take a walk out into the woods, if you know what I mean. Also, if you're driving between Albuquerque & Santa fe, be sure to go through Madrid. Trust me (unless things have changed...).

What's your opinion of him overall? I mean, I really dig the voice, but if there's not much else going on, I'm not interested.

That's pretty damn funny if you ask me.

The notion of a "consumer" wanting to buy unreleased ECM master tapes (which I've never heard anybody here even remotely suggest) is funny no matter who it is. The notion that anybody who would want such things would be disappointed by not finding them at a HP is just cracko-wacko. Whether or not the dryness of the humor is intentional, the mere premise breaks me up! Now, Tzewie, here's you chance to crack on me - I passed on a bunch of BN 78s at a HP back in the 70s. All Trad stuff, and I wasn't interested at the time. I also passed on some Bird Dial 78s in the same store a few years later because I had the stuff on LP. Bust me. I deserve it.

Shelley Carroll for under $10.00, y'all: http://www.cybermusicsurplus.com/online_ca...sku_tag=LHR3BB3 Carpe diem!

I was reminded, in different ways, of early Gil Melle & George Russell. But whereas Melle's struck me as a naive-ish goofball whose naiveness almost inadvertantly led to hipness, and Russell as a man who didn't so much find himself as he did find some sort of parallel universe that was waiting for him to move into it (and wondering what took him so long to get there), Tatro's writing struck me (admittedly after only three listenings) as somewhat Geppetto-ish. I will say this, though. I hear in Tatro's writing a keen grasp of the implications of the more "out" elements of the dissonance heard in the Mulligan-Baker front line, a dissonance that is there more often than one might think, and with more implications than most heard at the time. It's what he did with it that hasn't reached me yet. But whether or not I personally get it is neither here nor there. I would like to hear the material played by a group of players who might be able to breathe more life into the charts. No matter how "advanced" the guys in that band might have been as writers, as players, I'm not sure that they (or anybody, really) was equipped to do anything more with music like this that play it "correctly". I definitely hear "reading", not playing, and that's understandable enough. But... There may well be a life/world existing in this music that I'm not hearing yet, and I'd certainly be more than willing to listen to the charts again, played by people for whom this type writing is more "natural" after the passage of so many years and evolutions. Any ideas as to who such a group might consist of today?

We got a bunch of 'em. Most are interesting, if highly variable from visit to visit. I'll put it this way - I'll never not stop at one if I haven't been inside it for a few months.

Besides, jazz, "real" jazz, is all but dead. Plenty of great music ha escaped from the body and is out there keeping the gene pool active, but it's not "real" jazz any more. And thank god for that! Again -fear not the dead nor the necromancers. Unless you yourself are dead (or on the way), they can't hurt you unless you let them.

Sounds like the "type" of people who support JLC wouldn't have much of an interest in supporting something better anyways. So fuck all of'em, let them have their museum. Let the rest of us have some living music the way we've always had it - through word of mouth, throught the underground, through anything but institutionalized musical taxidermy. Problem is, nobody except the JLC "type" goes out & spends the buckage too much any more (or so it seems). So that one's on us, even if there are a lot of mitigating circumstances. But there's always been money in preserving an image of the past. It's an easy way to get glory w/o having to earn it. Just claim it for your own once it's already been created and left available thru death. There's a huge market for that, always has been, always will be. So let them have it. Ours is not to be feted by the powers that be, for we oppose the powers that be. You want the jizz, you gotta hang around the tip, prime the pump, and be ready to catch it when it spurts. To think otherwise is nonsense. Now, somebody tell me this - is there anybody, anybody, who could make truly creative contemporary jazz and get the same deal that Wynton's got? Hell no. Because truly creative contemporary jazz doesn't hang around the tip unless it's to bite it. Otherwise, it's all about going after god and/or pussy. Ain't no "cultural institutions" gonna subsidize somebody going after their god or their pussy, much less both. Eunuchs are not to be feared.

Mr. Grossman was not always in the "best of health" even in his youth...

Playing... alto Exactly!

Yeah, I got it in the sale. Seldom do I not get what Larry says in relation to any music, but such is the case here. I hear the "devices", but they just don't engage me at all beyond the "intellectual" level. I listened 3 times last night, and was left with a "well, ok, there it is" feeling and nothing more. Maybe it's the band, maybe they were so busy reading/interpreting the charts "correctly" that they didn't have time to put some flavor into them. Holman plays very nicely, though. Maybe in time...

Grossman's on record as feeling much the same way. He wanted to play tenor, but Miles wanted mostly soprano. So, here comes Gary Bartz!

Webste (in French): http://cunniewilliams.artistes.universalmusic.fr/ The samples don't sound bad, but they're just snippets..

I would hope that we all do in some form or another, but... The cut I heard showed him to have a voice somewhere between the speaking voice of Barry White & the singing style of Terry Callier. Interesting...

Joe South People Who Play Games You & Me

I had the same reaction. Apparently so.

People who buy gas at RaceTrack People who don't buy gas at RaceTrack People who don't know what RaceTrack is

?????????????????? I've just heard one song. Sounds like he has a great voice. But that don't mean shit by itself.

The Four Horsemen The Three Little Pigs The Two Seagulls, Gertrude & Heathcliffe

Jim Foetus Baby Laurence Harry Toddler

Why don't we bump our game up a notch by not taking the bait, tempering the jizzing on Curtis Counce cover comments, and seeing if we can prevent history from repeating itself? This time around has been fun. Hell, they've all been fun until things go left. Here's hoping that this one stays fun.

Which EW&F did you get? Undergroove Collection, or one of the others? Yeah, Undergroove. Only I got it as part of a UK two-CD set from Dutty Goove. It was $16.99 and in stock. Undergroove's $26.99 and out of stock. So for $10 less, I got a "best of" type CD + a $27 remix CD. Heckuva deal. Ok, I was wrong. What I got was something else entirely. Still by Soul Source, but actual remixes. Undergroove is essentially a compilation featuring the "jazzier" side of EW&F, with just a few, non-radical, remixes. It's a good set, but if you were into EW&F back in the day and bought/heard all the albums, there's no real reason to pick this up, especially at J-prices. I learned this the hard way this past week... The remixes, otoh, are fresh and invigorating. The original Soul Source Japanese album is another, more radical (and interesting) thing altogether. It's also pricier than hell. So that "Essential" collection that I got is definitely the way to go if you want to get this stuff. The order is different, and there's a remix of "After The Love Has Gone" that's been replaced by something else, but big whoop.

Johnny Ace (I don't know, sorry!) Lucky Luke Leon Leonwood Bean