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Yeah, cooking the rabbit that he himself had wacked!

Those Geico caveman commercials are cool, if on the verge of overexposure. Some new ones would be welcome. Anybody know who the actors are? the one who "doesn't have much of an appetite" just nails that line!

I hear you. Just wanted clarification, that's all. If all you have is HMO care (and that's all a lot of people do have these days), my (anecdotal) experience is that they do the equivalent of reading off an insurance company approved script when it comes to call-ins. Don't get me started on that... Sorry to hear about your son. That's gotta be a tough hit for all concerned. Here's hoping for brighter days ahead.

And the problem with that is?

Wow. Did not know that. That was a great series. Yet another sign that "free jazz" was slowly but surely expanding its profile before the big chill hit full blast. To what extent was he involved in A&R? Was he simply working with what was given him (just doing the gig as a "career move" to get some profile with somebody) , or was he actively supportive of the music? Again, i hear stories that today he's all about "foregone conclusions".

Yeah, but I was under the impression that Conrad either doesn't have insurance or that his insurance ain't so hot to begin with. And really - "within a day or two" is hardly an acceptable timeframe for something that might require immediate attention, don't you think? You got a bite on your head that's causing swelling and shit and your doctor tells you he/she can see you "in a day or two"? Hell, in a day or two, you might be dead! Going to the ER for a cold or a stomach ache, or even a sprained ankle, is inappropriate. Those are "known quantities", so to speak. You know what you got, you know what it's gonna do, and you know how to fix it. No need to do anything other than ride it out until you can see your regular doctor. Going to the ER when you have received a potentially poisonous bite of unknown origin and your head is starting to swell up ain't at all inappropriate. I don't care what the insurance companies say. I've got pretty good insurance, and if they denied such a claim, I'd raise holy hell until it was accepted (done it before, and will do it again if needed). They're insurers, not doctors, and sometimes they need to be reminded of that.

Frustration Item #27843 - I have an LP of Keying In, near mint, that I don't hardly ever play because it's a trio session and Brackeen's playing by itself doesn't engage me enough to sit through an entire trio album. She sounds nervous to me, like she's wiggling on the piano bench because she's gotta go pee, but can't because the tape's running. I have a cassette copy of Ancient Dynasty that I can no longer play because I wore it out in my car's cheap-ass tape player listening to all the Joe Henderson solos . That was one of his finer dates from those days. I see used copies of Keying In fairly often, but never of Ancient Dynasty. I can have what I don't want, but I can't have what I do want. Is this fair? Is this America? I wrote my congressman, and he said, quote - "I'd like to help you son, but you're too young to vote." Sometimes I wonder what I'm gonna do.

This is a very broad generalization, but I feel that "society" today has lost most, if not all, of its sensitivity to music as a distinct medium that is best enjoyed with a distinct set of engagement skills. It's just become another "lifestyle accessory", and with things like access to "product" and portability at an all-time high, there's really no need for the average Joe to even be aware that he might want to be curious about something "different", or that he might actually "get something out of" what is traditionally refered to as "serious listening'. Such has always been the case to one degree or another, but I have noticed a marked increase in these tendencies among otherwise intellegent people over the last 5 years or so. How are things in your town? Ours has become a society of total portability and having everything "on demand". The technology itself is beautiful, but if you leave a 50 lb. bag of dog food open and available to a dog, it'll try to eat it as quickly as possible instead of rationing it out. I see lots of people doing the same thing with technology, and they're being relentlessly encouraged to do so. Myself, I think that it's a diversionary tactic to keep people from sitting still in one place for too long, because when you do that, you might actually slow down, sit still, and take stock. That's breeding grounds for upsetting the apple cart right there and we can't have that now, can we. I guess what I'm saying is that music (of all kinds) doesn't "matter" to as many people as it used to. The "functionality" of music in general is changing. Jazz, once, always, and forever being a type of music that has personal communication as/at its core, can't help but suffer as a result. The challenge is rapidly becoming not how to get people interested in listening to this music, it's becoming how to convince people that listening, really listening, to any kind of music as anything other than a soundtrack to their lifestyle might be worth their while. I'm not optimistic about the chances for success right now, not on a scale large enough to really matter to society as a whole, but the one potential outlet for subversiveness might be in the electronica/ambient (and related) field, where you can at least create the illusion of passivity and non-confrontationality. And we all know that the key to successful subversion is the creation of a successful illusion, a "front". Thing is, I'm at an age and of a background where playing music that way is kinda counter-intuitive. So that makes me sorta useless. Oh well. At least I can watch and cheer from the sidelines, and come out of my cave whenever asked. Things could be worse. Yeah, sure.

Pops Poopadeaux Billy Joe Robideaux Rub a dub dub, Three Men In A Tub

Wow, reading the title of this thread, I thought that maybe The Revolution had begun!

Well, for a certain age group it might.

Or a comfortable and dignified denoumet, whatever the fates hold in store.

I say that if you can get people dancing in their feet (figuratively or literally), you'd be surprised how easy it is to get them dancing in their head.

Same from here. SUCH a spirit!

Buck Owens Jim Owens Jim Rowan

Would that it were that simple... A more accurate reading would be "when you come across great pop music that's got all the elements of past glories mixed in with strong "global" rhythmic concepts, a really hip sense of harmony, total control of (and over) today's technology, and a husband who writes arrangements like nobody's ever written for a pop singer, how can you not be in love?" And btw - she don't sing no sex songs (her version of "The Island" is incredibly sexual, but it's still a LOVE song, dig?). That's her problem right there. All truth and beauty and love ("hippy-ish at times, but I can live with that), and no songs about how hot her pussy is and how she's ready for us to riderideride dat azzzz. THAT would no doubt get her an American distribution deal, like, yesterday. THAT there's a market for. The "pop drum machine programs" are anything but that, trust me. Again, think of how Zawinul "humanized" the sound of synthesizers (not a universally held sentiment, to be sure, but I can't do anything abou that). That's what Monday Michiru has done for drum programs. Not just in the complexity of the grooves, but in the feel of them. She can (and does) mix real percussion in with her programs, and damned if you can tell what's waht after awhile. And damned if it matters. She's a chick who's equally grounded (and experienced, and skilled) in accoustic music and hip-hop technology. For her, it's all pretty much the same, just tools to make her music with. For that, and her courage to go on ahead and full-out do it like that, she has my unending admiration. Damn straight she does! Don't check her out if the possibilities of pop music (and therefore popular culture in general) being able to successfully accomodate forward musical thinking (and the celebration of gratification beyond the instant) is of no concern and/or interest to you. Otherwise, dig in.

Ruth Etting Kurt Elling Golden Earring

Nah, not wishy-washy at all. The Aric Effron Experience has always been just that - an experience. Yeah, he goes off the hook and over the top eventually. We all know that. That's what he does. If he ain't gonna do that no more, hey, beautiful. But if not, I'm along for the ride until he does, same as I always was. The guy's a genuine "cyber-character". If he was in my real life and he acted like he acts here, I would no doubt feel differently. But he's not - he's on my computer screen only, and there, he brings plenty of entertainment, and not just of the "off the wall" type. You can always depend on him for some genuine enthusiasm towards music (& life in general) and a unique way and perspective of expressing that enthusiasm. I for one find that entertaining and quite often uplifting, just as I find it sad and depressing when he loses it. And when he's off the wall, like with the Parlan/gay thing, it's so far off the wall that I find it impossible to be genuinely offended. I mean, really, complaining that it was beneath Blue Note's usual standards to hire gay musicians, that's just SO wack, in SO many ways, to look at as anything other than a view from a parallel universe, dig? Look - I've lived and still do live a life surrounded by "characters", some of whom would probably scare the shit out of Aric. I dig characters, and as long as they're not posing me any "real" danger (and for a wish of cancer and death to be a "real" danger would require resources and malevolence far beyond what Mr. Effron is likely to posess in real life), I welcome the flavor that characters bring. A lietime spent exclusively in the company of "normal" people ain't at all what I want out of life, ok? Now, I understand that not everybody feels that way, and that not everybody digs the type of character that Aric is, either some or all of the time. Different strokes and all that, and no hard feelings about that. "Normal" people can be beautiful too, and we got plenty of examples here. But I do dig "diversity of character", if you know what I mean, and for that I make no apologies. All I'm saying is that until Aric goes off over the edge again (and that's entirely up to him if and when he does), I'm glad to have him around. Again. And when he does cross the line, I'll not squwak about putting him out. Again. That's been the way this show has always played, and most likely always will play.

Dude - there's toxins in an area that's in very close proximity to your brain. That's not a good confluence of events... Sorry to hear that your area has such a f-ed up ER, and glad to hear that the symptoms seem to be receeding, but I still say you oughta have it looked at, just to be safe. Toxins & brains go together like bleach & ammonia...

In (sadly) typical "jazz fashion", we're sitting here worrying about the past, as if what's passed is still happening now and can somehow be "fixed". In the meantime, Aric has resurfaced as a cyberwoman, fooled damn near everybody (including myself - I saw some "signs" but never really made the connection), gotten really wrapped up in the whole Bird Flu thing, is moving to Canada as a result, and has placed Hawk & Tatum above Hank (what about Warne?) in his pantheon of musical gods. Ya'll tell me what's more interesting here, the past or the present?

What label is this on, and can we get an obligatory CDU link?

I knew there had to be a good reason!

I'vre always liked Chico, but seldom "love" him. His "inside" playing usually sounds kinda "un-natural" to me. The intent (and sincerity) is certainly there, but... Truthfully, I've not heard his more recent work. So the above is based on his work up until the mid-80s or so. The thing I have him on that I really like is Warriors, a Black Saint date co-led by him, Don Pullen, Fred hopkins, & Bobby Battle. That shit is off the hook!

Depends on what your preferences are. If you want to get your first hit from something with an overt jazz flavor, by all means start with 4 Seasons. If you want something with a poppy yet kinda wacked-out Brazillian/Salsa flavor, go with Optimista. And if you want something that's got all that plus some techno-dance touches, by all means get Routes, which is available in a Japanese version (usually in stock at Dusty Groove or one of the sites you can link to through this board) that has a bonus cut, or domestically through her website (she's part of the same ArtistShare program as Maria Scnieder & Jim Hall). The domestic version lacks the bonus cut but comes with a lot of other downloadable "extras". And don't let the "techno" thing scare you off. Monday's really impressing me with the way that she's using drum programs for rhythms in much the same way that Zawinul used synths for tonal colors. Her programming doesn't sound at all "mechanical" or otherwise oppressive. this stuff is at once rhymically complex in its layerings and irresistable in its propulsiveness. No small feat that, and coupled with her consummate musicality and arranging/production skills, I'd be tempted to say that she's on the forefront of creating a a new form of contemporary dance music that's as much focused on musicality as it is groove, but I don't know wnough about what's happening in contemporary dance music to make that kind of claim with any real confidence. Two things I do know, though, is pop production/arranging skills and songwriting craft. And on these counts, she's about as dazzling a talent as any I've heard, ever. Lon's comparison to "golden age" Stevie Wonder is not at all incorrect afaic, but Monday ups the ante by leaving room for extended jazz solos in a lot of her tunes. And she uses "real" jazz players like Conrad herwig, Dave Kikowski, her husband Alex Siapigin, Bryan Lynch, Dave Valentin (whose talents far exceed his limpy GRP efforts of yore), and Donnie McCaslin, whose playing elsewhere has me intrigued. McCaslin, in fact, has a long solo on the most techno/dance piece on Routes, "The Right time". What impresses me about him is that almost any other tenor player called to solo on this kind of piece would either do a total outjob deconstruction thing or else do a Breckerish hooty-tooty gland-stimulation. Both of these types approaches are tired cliches that were never much fun to begin with, especially the latter. But McCaslin PLAYS, develops ideas and motifs, playing some subtle harmonic games along the way while never losing his feel for the underlying groove. Maybe there's lots of cats who could play like this on a dance cut, but how many producers would allow it? And that's one of teh many things that I really dig about Monday - as her own producer, she not only allows this kind of shit, she obviously encourages it. It's obviously what she wants on her records - playing, real playing, real music, no "role playing". "The Right Time" is nearly 10 minutes long, but it's arranged in such a way that it doesn't plod on with the Fascistic Beat Beating of so many dance cuts. It's sectionalized (seamlessly), and there's an attention to pacing, dynamics, and texture that makes it very clear that although this is dance music, and that there's technology at play (GASP!), that this is first and foremost music, not "product" for the clubs. It's tempting to say that not since the Swing Era has social functionality and "art" been so organically blended, but that might be hyperbole. But then again, it might not be. Time will tell, but the evidence is available now for your consideration. I can definitely say, though, that it's not the type of thing that you ever encounter on a regular basis. "The Right Time" is the most overtly "club" cut on Routes, but it's not the only one that seamlessly melds "machines" (really, though, at this point in the game it's time we start thinking of them as instruments and start blaming the players, not the machines, for the far-too-often unhuman results that come from their usage) and "real time" playing. There's 2-3 cuts on the album taht fall flat for me, but the rest is as daring and satisfying a "pop' album (and this might well be a case of something being too good to be thought of as "pop", although as with the machines, I say it's time to start blaming the practitioners rather than the idiom for the rampant failures therein) as you're going to hear. The songs are bold and meaty, the arrangements oft-times startling (Siapagin's work adds a distinctly,as FFA noted, Woody Shaw-ish element to the proceedings when it appears, and again - if this is a "producer's music", then Monday's "allowance" of this type thing is her choice alone, and how many pop producers encourage the inclusion of Woody shaw type horn lines on their records?), and the production is more often than not downright bold. Routes is probably too "contemporary" for many here, but if you're not one of them, I'd suggest checking it out ASAP. Remember, her mom & father(s) are all serious jazz musicians, so she grew up surrounded by/immersed in non-idiotic music. And she herself was raised/trained as a classical flautist (in line for a scholarship at Oberlin, I believe, until a jaw injury sidetracked her focus for several years, but that's another story...). so this ain't no DIY geek with ideas but no chops to execute them in anything more than a manner that suggests what they really want to hear. This woman's got bold ideas and the skills to pull them off exactly as she hears them. Monday Michiru is the real deal.

Well, other than the truly fine Jones/Lewis stuff & (occasionally) the Hubbard cut, I don't listen to it much, simply because there's really nothing to listen to, the cuts are so short. The Steig thing is ok at best, but you can get better Steig in any number of places. But a 2:41 solo Burrell piece ("People" no less!), what are you gonna do with that other than recognize its existence? Or include it as a CD bonus cut. But where? The McGriffcut is a tasty item, but w/o context in the album. Again, what are you gonna do with that? BTW - the tour wsa the same one that resulted in two MPS albums - The Hub Of Hubbard & Richard Davis' Muses For Richard Davis. Both are fine albums that probably/hopefully capture the energy of the tour better than this Lester-released "document'.