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As promised: GOODBYE YESTERDAY - Groove Merchant GM 508 Side One - Home Come'n Tea Time Lazy Day Soul Lullaby Side Two - Then Soul Walked In Fillet Of Soul Back To The World All tunes by L.T. Thompson, Cedar Walton, Larry Ridley, Billy Higgins Liner Notes: I welcome the privilage to extend a most profound "Thank You" to all who shared this occasion...and must also include a special thanks for their spiritual depth, confidence,, and their professional talents, which were indeed a prime factor in making "Goodbye Yesterday" very much a reality today! May God's blessings, Good Health and Happiness forever be their companion for which, in my humble opinion, represents the only real success! Liner poem: There were numerous Occasions, When "Yesterday" Came too soon, But then was willing To step aside Gracefully, Out of complete Understanding And Respect For The NEcessities Of Today, And possibly Tomorrow." I OFFER YOU - Groove Merchant GM 517 Side One - Munsoon Sun Out Yesterday's Child Aliyah Side Two - The Moment Of Truth (T.Satterwhite & F.Scott) Back Home From Yesterday Cherokee (R. Noble) Tunes by L.T. unless noted Thompson, Walton, Sam Jones, Louis Hayes Main Liner Poem- "I OFFER YOU" From the first to my last day , Every good I can be , And a Soul Too lead the way , "I OFFER YOU" That which life holds so dear , Come troubles and despair , Warmth and passion shall be near , "I OFFER YOU" All that Spring cannot tell , Nor could Autumn write about , What my heart knows so well , "I OFFER YOU" More depth than the Sea has known , And height that Mountains could not say , Have ever been their own , "I OFFER YOU" Goodwill untill the end , The Pure which stands forever more , Perhaps some wisdom now and then , "I OFFER YOU" All I am and could ever be , And Love beyond eternity , Should there be more , "I OFFER YOU" Second liner poem - So Grateful and Happy , Too know , How much of nothing , I am , And though must travel , By myself , But never alone , (Spelling, capitalization, and spaces before commas as on album) Seems to be a concept working in the song titles and the poems...

Yeah, which leads to the question about the occasional similarities in his and Rahsaan's style, who influenced whom? Or maybe even, who influenced THEM? These "regional dialects" are really intriguing sometimes. A similar question could be asked about Trane & Jimmy Smith in the Philly days. Ultimately, I think it's a "community" thing, but you know SOMEBODY had to have laid down the roots in a particular area. Stuff just don't happen out of thin air, does it? Oh, for a time machine...

Sad about the demise of the BN Board? Me? Not any more. I waited until I could make a clean break, made it, and am now moving on. If they bring it back, I'll check it out, but the good thing about not reacting immediately out of pure emotion (and MAN was I tempted to) is that when you can make a clean break in YOUR mind, there's no lingering sentiment, and I have none. It WAS great, but it's over. That crop's done been harvested and turned over. Time to plant a new one.

I REALLY like the fact that this board is run by a jazz musician, a "dot-org", rather than a "dot-com. I know he's got his own product to sell, but there's a big difference between hawking your own wares and hawking the whole "jazz image" thing. Yeah, the latter is a fact of life, and not intrinsically bad, but given a choice, I'll go with musicians doin' it for themselves, and that's what this is. Still fluctuating between boards to see what's up, and Randy Hersom invited me to do a "Ask Quartet Out" thread on Jazz Corner, so I'm going there some, but this place is really feeling like a good after-hours club, and that's as good a rec as I can give anything. Chill out, lay back, hang with friends, and let the outside world fight their battle on their own time. Now, can I get a Double Jack, straight up?

Common courtesy, right?

Smart move, David!

Those people and almost ANYTHING mechanical make a bad combination! I mean, I love my mother, REALLY love her, but to this day she does not understand the idea of sydicated programming. When she comes to visit, she expects all of her favorite syndicated shows to be on at the same time and on the same network affiliate that they are at home for her. It's just been in the last 5 years or so that she's come to accept that us both having cable doesn't mean that all our station numbers are the same! God bless'em, though. I'm gonna be old and out of place someday. Hell, half the time, I already AM!

Charlie's better, not "well", but better. Thanks for the concern y'all. Yeah, Jim, your board be pretty. These are not commonly used colors, and I wonder why? They're easy on the eye AND attention getting. You know when I think the BN board started going downhill was when they changed the color scheme. That old black, grey , and blue was HIP!

Marchel was the first REAL jazz musician I got to know personally. He was a hero then, and he'll remain one until the day I die. The Leaning House CDs are excellent, but hearing him live on a REALLY good nite is even better. Tell you what - the nites back in the 70s when I got to hear Marchel & James Clay jamming w/Red Garland at a dump called The Recovery Room are nites that only my wife has been able to equal, if you get my drift...

Yeah, that kind of group playing is a whole 'nother bag than jazz soloing, but DAMN it's cool!

Yeah, the stuff seems to not have been handled well at all on CD. I'm lucky to have GOODBYE YESTERDAY & I OFFER YOU on Groove Merchant LPs. No dates or location, but the engineer for both was Malcolm Addey, if that provides a clue. Poetry & liner notes by Lucky in both cases. If you need personnel and tune listings, I can post those within (roughly) the next 24 hours, ok? Same w/the poetry & liners. I just dig the vibe on these. There's a stillness, a quiet, a peacefullness to them that I really dig. A totally personal reaction, no doubt. Was the COOK COUNTY stuff actually recorded live in toto? I SWEAR I hear another electric piano echoing waaaaay back in the background, which leads me to believe that overdubbing was done to correct for a live recording error.

It is becoming more "natural" feeling for me to post here for some reason. I intend to keep an eye on ALL the boards, and post as desired, but honestly, right now, I'm digging the intangible VIBE here. I wouldn't feel right posting about Charles Hodges on the other boards. I would have on BN, but hey... Remains to be seen how much of an interest in the "freer" forms there will be here, but no big whoop. The days of total boardal monogomy might be forever gone. But this place is really feeling like my #1 stop so far. And now, since my son is vomiting for the 3rd time in the last hour, I think it's time to leave cyberspace behind for a while...

I asked about the Blue Arrow on the BN board, and nobody really knew. I figure that you got some manuals or on-line instructions in the house somewhere, so WHAT does this thing mean anyhow?

I read that too, but I think he means in the current form. They've had forums for a few years, haven't they? Being a little older and maybe a bit LESS wiser, I feel a bit self-conscious about being viewed as a means to boost traffic to a commercial website. I don't mean "me", I mean all of us. Yeah, BN probably viewed it's BB community the same way at first, but by the time I got there, there was a real non-business vibe to it, w/Tom craking wise ocassionally and stuff like that. That might happen at AAJ, but once bitten, twice shy, as they say.

Dude, I DARE it to. I'd countersue SO damn fast it would NOT be funny. The zeitgeist and me have never really gotten along anyway. Must be fate. Or maybe just my shoes....

Pun intended. Ok, I've been on this Ann Peebles kick lately, and that means Hi records, Willie Mitchell, the Hodges brothers, and, specifically, the hipper-than-hip organ playing of Charles Hodges. Now, I've got no idea what kind of soloist this cat is, and don't really care either. The accompaniments he plays on all those Al Green, Ann Peebles, and other Hi sides just blows me away, even today. His seems to be a Gospel-rooted concept. You know, how the organist will accompany the preacher during the sermon with litle fills and masssive kicks, depending on what's needed. Also, a lot of the stops he uses seem to come out of the church, but that's something I really don't know anything about. However, this is R&B, not gospel, and as has been noted to the point of cliche, pretty much the only real stylistic difference is that one's about God and the other's about Sex (flip sides of the same coin if you ask me...), and Hodges' organ punctuations virtually REEK of sex. With his brothers Teenie & Leroy on guitar and bass (respectively) and either Al Jackson (simply, the greatest pure GROOVE drummer in the history of R&B, no slight to Clyde Stubblefield, Jabbo Starks, Zig, or ANYBODY else intended) or Howard Grimes (who was, in a sense, to Jackson what early Max Roach was to Kenney Clarke - similar yet different) laying down that deep groove that is nothing if not the rhythm of some really SERIOUS copulation, Hodges' organ functions as the soundtrack for what the rhythm is creating - he hums, he moans, he groans, he stutters, he whispers, he screams, he does everything but call your name and scratch the hell out of your back. Anybody else dig this cat? Or the Hi sound in general?

RE BOTC: What Chuck said. Definitely. Now, if BN hadn't pissed everybody off, there would probably be a market for a THIRD version - one combining the RVG with the live stuff. It might happen yet!

Yeah, that's a word that took me a while to get a handle on, but if you remember that the root is "commend" and that you're sort of "re-commending" something, it all falls into place. I'm a lousy typist and I used to do the double-c thing all the time w/o thinking. Funny how different typing is from writing by hand - I'd never spell "recommend" with 2 Cs when writing by hand. Yours trewly, Jim Sangrey - Spelling Dork

Just a point to consider for what it's worth - the entire AAJ site, including the bulletin board, is a for-profit business. Look beyond the bulletin board and you'll see what I mean. No dis intended, it seems cool enough for what it is, but a business it is nevertheless. The owners no doubt relish the idea of having new visitors to their site, have bent over backwards to be accomodating, and no doubt hope that the whole (relatively) massive influx of new faces creates more business overall for their operation, but ironically enough, some of the regulars over there might view (or at least fear) the massive BNBB immigration the way the BNBB people viewed Norah Jones - as the beginning of the end for their thing, and a chance to be sold out. Ya' never know.....

All the more reason not to use them!

Well, I made a post, as did several others, to the "Innovation" thread on AAJ, and got this "the BN Bunch seems to be missing something" response, which is understandable enough, and can maybe be worked through, but hey - if I'm forever to be stigmatized as a memeber of the "Blue Note Bunch" without being able to discuss ideas on their own merit, well, then that's not going to be any place I want to be at. Believe it or not, I had to "prove" myself at Blue Note too. I posted for about 6 weeks, I think, before ever getting ANY kind of response, and it wasn't until Lon and I got into a prolonged and intense, but totally civil and intellegent, disagreement over the Blue Note "avant-garde" that I think anybody of substance over there began to take me seriously and welcome me into the community. Lon and I have since become great cyber-friends - we know each other's tastes and play to the similarities. But I was just one guy, not 1000! I'd LIKE to think that once those of us who want serious discussion "prove" ourselves to the natives at AAJ that it'll be cool, but you just never know... I'm still liking this place for overall attitude and the fact that it's a "ground floor" community.

Well, if anybody would or COULD do it, it would be Rahsaan, he of the gifts far beyond mortal men. But seriously, Baccus was from, where, Cleveland? Toledo? Somewhere in Ohio...same as Rahsaan. Interesting to hear the common linkage there, maybe sort of a regional dialect of sorts. You don't hear that today as much as you once did.

You guys actually USE headlights?

If the penis enlargement spam and the septic cleaning spam came from the same company, I'd be VEEEEEERY afraid to call a plumber next time you had a clogged septic tank. He might be bringin' a NEW kind Roto-Rooter to do the job....

Self-service checkout is the hippest thing for personal lifestyle liberation since the Walkman. We've had it for a cuppla years at our Kroger (a Union store, btw, hmmmmm....). I'm outta there at least 50% faster on all but the biggest purchases.