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Sorry Chris, but archive ASAP. I figure it'll be at least a day or two before anybody from Krypton checks out the suggestions, if they even do (yeah, uh....), but if/when they do, "Bite Me, Corporate Pig-Dogs" is probably not too high on the list of things they''ll enjoy seeing.

Gary Payton - "Sure is a shame that Kobe gets into this jam in his free agent year."

Ok, I got 2 computers up and 1 shows the actual picture, but the other shows the creepy warning. How does THAT work?

WHOA!!! Where the fack did THAT come from????

Yep. It's possible.

Ok, folks, we got some SERIOUS misinterpretation going on here, and guess it's my fault. So Jackie McLean, kick my ass. The purpose of this thread was to try and get the Organissimo Board some play, some profile, some linkage. Nothing more. Apparently, BN still gets enough hits on their BB page that they felt compelled to offer two options for redirecting interested viewers. As somebody who thinks that this is at least as fine a board as the ones offered by the BN page, I think that a link here would be appropriate, as well as beneficial to the cats who run it. So I played "the agitator". Some of you got the hint and sent a note to BN, which was the object of the game. Like chicken soup, it can't hurt anything, can it? Some of you took it WAAAAY too seriously one way or the other. We've been through this before - BN IS a corporate entity now, has been, probably will be for QUITE some time. Life goes on. And like any corprate entity, you gotta get what you can out of them when you can get it, and that includes a chance for increased traffic to a VERY good site - the Organissimo Board. If I'd have said it like that straight from the gate, would ANYBODY have sent a note to BN? Nah - we're jazz fans, we LIKE being alone with ourselves! Forget about the "old" Blue Note (the board and the label alike), and focus on the "now", which is building THIS board into a quality jazz cybercommunity with a broader visibility so it can attract people that we can brainwas...er... ENLIGHTEN into the delights of the vast, bottomless, reservoir of jazz, past, present, and, hopefully, future. One thing this community has ALWAYS been good at, here and on Board Krypton, has been turning newbies on to a big variety of quality sounds that defies easy pigeonholing. THAT'S what has to be done to keep the music alive for the future, and the broader exposure we have in cyberspace, the better chance we have of doing that. We're on a mission from God, Jake. Ok, game over. Looks like I miscalcumalated a bit (but DAMN do I know who to play poker against now! ). Unless anybody seriously objects, this thread will self-destruct in 12 hours or less.

The AllStar Game's at the "new" Comiskey (sorry, can't call it "U.S. Cellular Field". Not now. Not ever.) this year, so howzabouta "RVG DEMOLITON NIGHT"?

Cool, but the game ain't fun when too many people fold after the first bluff.

Yeah, I can heartily recommend inviting the Nessas into your house. Ann's a TOTAL sweetheart, and contrary to what some might believe, Chuck doesn't bite. They're some damn fine folks themselves.

Poker, anybody?

It's on AND HIS MOTHER CALLED HIM BILL. Check it out. For me, it's nothing less than devastating to hear Hodges work his way through Strayhorn's deathbed portrayal of, in order, shock, defiance, and resignation at/to his fate, and finally, slowly but surely, the final slipping into the grips of death itself. At least that's what I hear in it. STILL can't listen to it without a shudder and a tear. Give it a shot and see what you think. Maybe it's just me!

I fear that this "voice of the fan" schtick will get old pretty quick for me. I don't watch pregame to hear "the voice of the fan", I watch pregame to get info. I don't even like it all that much when the regular sports guys do schtick. Rush says he knows football, but I remember a guest spot he did on MNF a few years ago, and he really seemed in over his head. He really DID seem like a fan, but again, who wants that on a sportscast? At least this will be pregame. Another thing about Limbaugh is that he seems to be most effective when operating solo, where he can do his "all-knowing" schtick (and schtick is definitely what it is) in complete control of his pacing and his timing. The few times I've seen him outside of that element, like on talkshows or the previously mentioned MNF bit, he seemed a bit at a loss, as if he was trying too hard NOT to be the know-it-all that his fans love. It's a fine line he walks, and if he doesn't bring enough of his trip to the show, he'll be toast. BOR-ing! But if he beings too much, he'll get shot down REAL quick by the pros who KNOW how to work a show like that, and he'll lose all credibility. By the same token, I think Rush "works" much better on radio than on tv. The few times I saw his syndicated TV show, I was struck by how senseless it was - he was pretty much doing his radio show, and the few visuals he put in really broke the vibe. So this is likely to be a BIG challenge for him - can he work in an ensemble effectively, and can he use more than his voice to do so? I detest the man's politics, but I'll be the first to admit that he is an EXTREMELY effective communicator in his own realm and to his own audience. This smacks to me a bit of the Dennis Miller thing that MNF tried. I LIKE Miller, and I enjoyed his quippage, but when he stepped outside of his niche as cynical wiseass and tried to talk football straightup with Fouts and Michaels, he floundered miserably and came off as a pitiful wannabe. Sports broadcasting is neither all about sports nor all about broadcasting, it's about both simultaneously, and a shortcoming in either area seems to prove fatal pretty darn quick. Miller knew the game as well as most any "fan", but who cared? Again, who wants to hear somebody tell them what they already know? Rush might prove to an expert about the game to a degree that surprises us all, but I'm inclined to doubt it, since his "voice of the fan" role seems to stipulate a lack of "deep" knowledge from the git-go. So what's he going to do. try and stir up some shit just to be "controversial"? I'm sure there are some who might go for that, but on gameday, I want straight talk about the games, not some contrived controversy. Will Rush prove to be the second coming of Howard Cossell and find a way to be controversial AND relevant? He might, but Cossell paid SOME dues in the sports broadcasting industry before gaining his high profile. The whole thing smacks of gimmickry to me. It might work, but I'm skeptical. It's got nothing to do with politics, either. I just don't dig the aspect of condescension implicit in hiring a "civilian" to appeal to other "civilians". Leave it to the pros, I say.

Hey - my wife's looking for a job, and she's REALLY good at chewing them up and spitting them out. I speak from experience! I've softened the tone of my opening post, btw.

I'm still naive enough to think that music, jazz music in particular, is still at some level for people to share and enjoy on a personal level, and is not just a commodity to be bought and sold like pork bellies or some such. Blue Note fostered a commumity for a while that kept that notion alive. I for one would like to see them at least acknowledge the existence of a community that still believes in that notion.

Please, Ed, post whatever response you get. Same for anybody else too.

Not a bad idea. this thread is SUPREMELY deletable.

Quite possibly so Claude (& Chris), so let them know we're here! We have the potential to hype their better product (or shoot down their crap) better than either of those other two boards. If they don't know that, they need to. This board may indeed be a "baby", but babies grow up, dig?

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...t=ST&f=2&t=2332

http://www.bluenote.com/bulletinboard/ubb-...i?ubb=get_daily They should know we're here, after all the stuff that went down when they closed down their board. Most of us came here from there. The Organissimo Board is worthy of broader recognition. This is a quality board, and in many ways the most informative and stimulating one out there. HEY BLUE NOTE - LET PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE WE'RE HERE!!!!

I have nothing to say on this topic, but Blue Note is shafting the Organissimo Board BIG time. http://www.bluenote.com/bulletinboard/ubb-...i?ubb=get_daily

Fair enough, but have you heard "Blood Count"? Ain't NO sweetness there, just a devastating portrait of a sick man's last few days, right down to his dying breath. Every rule has an exception, right?

Yeah, me too. Reminds you that a lot of guys got into the business out of a true love for the music, not like today's "careerists" who think purely in terms of numbers and product. Fuck THEM! Dorn may (or may not) be a lot of things as a businessman, but I don't think anybody questions his enthusiasm for the product that he handles so (seemingly) ineffectively, and that means SOMETHING to me. More than a little, actually.

HARVEY!!! Used to read his writing in Down Beat long before he became "famous" as a cartoonist. Gonna run the risk of throwing this thread off track, but you know who else used to write for Down Beat in the early 70s Leonard Maltin. Yes, THAT Leonard Maltin. In fact, he wrote a profile of the Duke Pearson Big Band that I've got lying around somewhere.

First noticed this "trend" back around 91-92 when I took my then preschool age son to see the then-new Jetsons movie. The cahracters still looked the sme, but they no longer "LOOKED" the same. Everybody was now being drawn with shadows and shadings and all other kinds of "improvements". Hell, I even saw a Ren & Stempy commercial last night and THEY had been drawn with the shadings. Well, I say stop it. STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT. STOP IT. Please. Draw the new stuff any way you want, but leave folks like the Jetsons and the Flintstones in good old flat Toodeeland. I'm sure that this new "improvement" is due to computerization, and that if you ask Jake Hanna or Yogi Barbarra, they'll say that this is the way they wanted to draw them back in the old days but it was time/cost prohibitive or som other kinda we're=so=glad=to=have=machines=to=do=the=work=of=people=so=we=can=pocket=the=savings=ourselves=sucking=of=the=digital=cocque, but whatever. Save it for the dummies. Just stop trying to make flypaper look like shag carpeting, ok?

Ok, that's cool, they're back, we're back, it's back.