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Get me a pizza for lunch tomorrow, that would be great! You got their number?

Apparently. So...the Gershwins like to control the way their Negroes are portrayed? How noble of them.

Thank god. Now it can reach its full potential of meaningless.

So, do you like his "post-Asian" records? Have you heard them? Those Philology releases in particular are delightful!

It's not really picking hairs - if you want to designate "pre-Asian and NOT "post-Asian", you just leave it hanging, like he did that and then did nothing dlse. He did a lot else. There's definitely a "post-Asian" (whatever that really means?) period, I mean, my god he made a record with a trad band, and a buttload full of records just playing standards, so, yea, "post-Asian" is not splitting hairs at all. Have you heard any of these records, or did you just go up to the end of the "pre-Asian" period and just stop? You can think of anything you want, but if you're factually/historically wrong, you're wrong.

well, not necessarily...will there aloes be "post-Asian" recordings? There certainly were a lot of them!

https://www.therestisnoise.com/2011/08/the-gershwin-estates-porgy-and-bess.html Worth noting is a comment from Joshua Cohen: "Why are we even talking about this? That is, why can't anybody do anything with Porgy and Bess that they please? Why does current American law keep a work more than 75 years old, whose last creator died more than 25 years ago, under copyright?" This is indeed the underlying issue. If Porgy and Bess were in the public domain, we'd have revisionist productions all over the place, and dunderheaded schemes for it would quickly come and go. But the Gershwin estate exercises a powerful hold over all uses of the composer's work. And, as this Copyright Primer helpfully explains (see Scenario 9), the joint action of the Copyright Act of 1976 and the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998 means that Porgy will pass into the public domain only in 2030. Yes, 2030 — Gershwin will have been dead for 93 years. People often blame the Walt Disney Company for these ludicrous extensions of copyright terms, but the Gershwin estate has also played an active role; in both cases, the expiration of the Rhapsody in Blue copyright was looming, first in 1980 and then in 2000. The families' cash cow has remained sacred.

Not sure what you mean by "pre-Asian"? He did those "meditation" albums and then set about living all over the world playing all types of jazz, including "normal". It's not like he Zen-ed out and live in Kyoto for the rest of his like.

WTF? is this all about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porgy_and_Bess_(film)#Unavailability_of_prints Goldwyn's lease of the rights was for only 15 years. After they expired, the film could not be shown without the permission of the Gershwin and Heyward estates, and even then only after substantial compensation was paid. Despite repeated requests, the Gershwin estate repeatedly refused to grant permission for the film to be seen.[38] Prints of the film are "beyond rare" and the film has been called "the holy grail of missing movies." Though bootleg copies are available, it is not known if a complete, quality print exists. Michael Strunsky, the trustee and executor of the Ira Gershwin Musical Estate, told The Hollywood Reporter in 2017 that Ira Gershwin and his wife, Leonore, viewed the film as a "piece of shit" and directed Goldwyn to destroy all remaining films 20 years after release, as was their right. However, Michael Feinstein, who was Ira Gershwin's assistant, denies that this ever happened.[2]

I mean, if people start to think, OMG, what a hoary, overweight fluff spew THAT was, it means they're maybe just not feeling that anymore. Now, what they start to feel instead...who knows, really, who knows? But if it's crap, at least it will be different crap. And if it's actually better, hey. Either way, the though will have evolved, just as the body will have by then evolved into having three eyes, and the brain to handle it well. But if that can't happen, at least get over Rhapsody In Blue That thing truly defecates all on everything about humanity that I find wonderful and/or beneficial

Evolution happens in thought as well as in matter.

Not really...one thing leads to another.

My sincerest hope for humanity is that there is some place in the future where such a thing will not only be possible, but usual.

I'm not the one to recommend a Fresh Sounds product for anything, ever. But there are exceptions to every rule and this is one.

The Anthony Davis opera.

Or, if you want a new twist, spend some time with Tania.

Wheels are not turning, they are grinding the trapped into the ground. Narcissism is rerun culture distilled to it's essence.

Oh please. What aging Boomer doesn't do a standards album? What movie doesn't pull up a standard as a signifier of sophistication? It's everywhere, repurposed from a living music to a petrified commercial condiment. Rerun culture. Radio, movies, and then TV did not reflect in any way the full palate of American culture. They didn't even try to. So...what else was? Plenty. What else is there? Everything else. What else can be there? Depends on where we think we are. This isn't about "cancel". What's done is done, there it is. What it is about is erasing the lines that we assume we're naturally drawn by forces of nature. They weren't. What good is it to hook a fish and then not reel it in? And what good is it to reel it in and then not eat it...or at least use it as fertilizer?

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NOT "just" hype. Just lamenting the inability/unwillingness to see what's there without the hype. There are things there, just now whole-world-defining things, unless that's the world you want them to have, and by extension, for them to sell you. Buyer beware!

Same.

Yeah, had a good run. And will keep on running, no doubt. It's Pavlovian behavior on all sides. But why? Do we really need more versions of "Summertime"? At what point do they stop referring back to themselves? Will the time ever come again? We've had GERSHWIN (and the GAS in general) shoved down our throats - consciously, as business moves - for so long that we as a culture reflexively look "there" for our "heritage". Well, ok. But I'm somebody (and I might well be alone, but I don't think I am) in finding that we've been there, done that, I'd like to clear the vision and see what else was, is there, and maybe can be there. Enough of this small set of monocultural domination of "our" heritage. "Our" is, in actuality, (or was...maybe now it is was, sadly) a big buttload full of stuff that doesn't involve GERSHWIN and all the other UPPERCAPS. there. Rerun Culture. Brainwashing is what it is, and quite intentionally.

I liked it too at the time, played the record a good amount when it came out. Just haven't been pulled back to it since.

Ok, listening to that video (sic) again, the only "sad" thing about is Miles being there, like Pavarotting being here...I mean, this is the purpose of the event, but still... In both cases, I feel a shame in enjoying the forced disconnects, but, hey, I'm sure I'm not alone. Most of us are never as good as we like to think we are.