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That's beautiful!!!

Oh crap, it IS Teo on #9! This album: https://www.allmusic.com/album/impressions-of-miles-davis-mw0000316061 and yes, I DO have that record, no wonder!!!! I bought all (or almost all) those Teo records on his label from CD Baby about a decade ago, jsut to see what they all were, because there were a LOT of them! And they turned out to be a pretty interesting lot too. From what i can tell, since Teo was doing Miles' records, he had a really unique insight into what was being done what that music, not just the playing of it, but in particualr, how the records were being made (because he was the one making them!). Also gotta figure that Teo had some kind of studio time allotteed to him for his own discretionary use (Bob Belden had an arrangement with Blue Note where he'd get paid in studio time for at least some of his other work for the label, and he'd use that time to record his own projects, only a few of which were eve officially released), so there's that. Access to Miles, access to studio time, you know that automatically means access to players, right? What really made me add Teo to the guess-mix, though, was the simple sound of the record. It's got that older analogue sound (probably tape hiss out the ass b/c it was certainly not recorded for an actually intended release) and, sorry aobut Paul Metzger, don't really know too much about him, but damn, that dude sounds like he's getting ready to play on "He Loved him Madly", ya' know? That sound. And nobody outside of Miles' immediate orb would have been going there like that. I mean, maybe, but...not really. Teo almost certainly would have had to be within smelling distance of it, if not actually the one making the odor! But...I've slowly become aware that that last period of pre-retirement Miles had a LOT of ripple effect in the Japanese market. A little bit of it made it out here in the US, but I keep finding (at irregular intervals), these mid-70s Japanese records that have SOME kind of connection. And when felser said Paul Metzger, I started Discog-ing him, the first thing I checked out was a Sam Morrison record, becuase that guy was in Miles' very last live band, and that was part of that ripple effect. Anyway...yeah. Teo. Teo an deeper than might be thought. oh god, you know what happened? I youtubed the Phil Woods cut to compare, in seperate tab, and did not shut the BFT off, nor did I start the YT videos. so I'm thinkin a-HA! when in reality...noooooo.... OOOOOOOPS!!!!!

OST https://www.discogs.com/Teo-Macero-Impressions-Of-Virus-%E5%BE%A9%E6%B4%BB%E3%81%AE%E6%97%A5%E3%81%AE%E5%8D%B0%E8%B1%A1/release/6297280 Dave Sanborn AND Lee Konitz?!?!?!?!

White Elephant on #9? Not at all familiar with that record except on the most casual of levels, probably should be by now. but hey...

I'm just grateful that Sonny is not like the rest of the world. He shows that it can be done! Also, wow, here's a guy whose career was likely ended because of a respiratory illness possibly brought about by 9/11, now living in a world threatened by a respiratory pandemic.I'm sure the dark irony is not lost on him. And yet - he remains positive about life and what it all means.

both y'all's votes are showing as logged on this end. So far, so good!

That's what we're testing for with this poll. If you see anything askew, report it here. I'm showing no vote for you, is that correct? No, you're not an idiot. But I don't see a vote from you in Dan's poll. There is logged one here on this one, though. I can see that you voted a "no" here. To me, that suggests that either there's a bug in the software's polling that is not consistent across all polls, or else maybe you inadvertently clicked in that one before voting. If anybody else wants to set up a poll for similar such testing, hey, go for it. a larger sample size is always better. And it's not like i got opera tickets for tonight or anything. Did you actually pull the plug on #3? Because I don't see any votes on that one , at least not as of this writing.

Window open, let's play! TRACK ONE - Tuba! VERY assertive trombone. I've gone from thinking older band to newer, very Ra-ish in that way. Ultimately no idea, but show bizness, bay-bay! And now, ladies and gentlemen... TRACK TWO - "Willow Tree", I recognize the song from both Gil & Thad/Mel...with the organ, I'm thinking it's Fats himself? TRACK THREE - Spiky AND bouncy on that intro!!! I like the writing. Latter-day Gerald Wilson, maybe? But maybe not so much. doesn't sound like players he uses, voicings, yes, blend, no. TRACK FOUR - Duke. "Bourbon Street Jingling Jollies", from New Orleans Suite.One for the ages, imo.So many colors, so much depth to the orchestration, just....beautiful. TRACK FIVE - hmmmm...sounds like Chico Hamilton + harp and minus Chico...keep waiting for it to turn into something else, but it's not going to, is it...oh wow, an ALTO solo! Norris Turney again? Arthur Blythe? Bobby Watson? Some New London Jazz guy? The sound is identifiable, sorta, but maybe not at this age or in this context, at least not for me? I think I could like it, maybe? TRACK SIX - Phil Woods? Definitely Phil Woods-ish, but with a touch of Hank Crawford sprinkled on for that Jenny Saykwah aftertaste. Geez, those woodwind voicings are close...no room for error, pitch-wise...oh geez, that IS Phil Woods, that tribute to Oliver Nelson he dod. that explains EVERYTHING, then. It's heartfelt for sure, I mean, how could it not be? Woods saw some of these guys SO up-close and behind the scenes...he knew what he was going on and who he would love, and Oliver Nelson had to have been one of them. That would have explained those voicings too, Woods arranged the album, too, right? So he knew how Nelson worked that,, literally knew from exposure and being in there with it. Ok, Phil Woods, then. TRACK SEVEN - Randy Weston? Sounds like a band that would have liked to have played together more than they probably actually di...and I mean that as a compliment in the face of economic realities. But no, not Randy Weston? God, i wish that bigger bands had chances to play live regularly, it makes SUCH a difference when you have a band whose spirit is true. Ok, that head is familiar, not sure why they shifted the groove there, it doesn't add anything, really. Muhal, maybe, judging from how it ends up? TRACK EIGHT - Sounds like Los Angeles. Not that it is, just sounds like that, that post-Kenton thing with a "lab band" type of proficiency/propensity, writing and playing...and recording. I like that when it works, and this works. Don't know that I'd leave the house to hear it, but since I'm not having to do that for this, hey! Saul Goode! TRACK NINE - Every BFT has at least one "oh crap, I KNOW I've heard this one somewhere before" cut. Here it is. Sounds very much "of its time" and I mean that in the best possible way. Guitar is definitely going for a Dominique Gaumont/Reggie Lucas/Pete Cosey thing, so from that time, and that circle, I'd guess. The obvious guess is Brecker, but that does not sound like Brecker of that time to me, not on the finer points. Interesting...many possibilities, maybe up to and including Teo Macero? Or a record made for the Japanese market? I like it, definitely like it. TRACK TEN - Almost sounds like three hands, which would make it Buck Hammer? I've never heard his record, and probably still haven't! TRACK ELEVEN - YEAH! Balanced within itself. This is probably one of those "shoulda carpe-diem-ed when I had the chance" items": https://www.dustygroove.com/item/719497?sf=ray+nance&incl_oos=1&incl_cs=1&kwfilter=ray+nance&sort_order=artisan TRACK TWELVE - No idea, but surely that's McCoy? Also sounds like one of his compositions, but drawing a blank on the name of it. TRACK THIRTEEN - not in the mood for this right now..or am I? I think i can be...ok, I will be....and now I am. It's that tempo and that one chord. This is understanding how music works, not just how it sounds or feels, but what you need to do to get it to do all that. And the tenor player is taking their time. Hell, EVERYBODY is.Weighty without being burdensome, quite the opposite. Pretty damn nice compilation here, and thanks for not includinf Denny McLain!

Joe - I show your vote in THIS poll as having been counted. A "no" correct?

Ok, let's see what happens here. I see that Mr. Dolan has not been disenfranchised!

Hmmmm...at face value, that would seem to indicate that you might have voted w/o intending to. I'll start a new poll to test that for everybody. Ok, try this: Make sure you look at before and after, all of it.

You should be able to vote until you actually submit...if not, let us know.

Totally adjusted to telecommuting, carry-out/curbside etc.. no panic in the area at this time, fingers crossed...we "moved inside" a bit before things really started getting spiky. One positive thing that I've realized from my corporate gig is this - business continuity. We very much stress having not just a Plan A and a possible Plan B, but a workable, proven Plan B, and ideally, a Plan C, etc., as deep as possible. That kind of fits in with my general lifestyle anyway (Just as "a country boy can survive", a jazz musician CAN improvise!). so..."business continuity" is not just for corporate business, it's for LIFE business. You make sure you know the realities (including the cluelessness of others and the dangers inherent therein), make you know what and where all the options are, and then...you do your best in every way unless and until you can't. And if that happens, you're fucked. But nothing is guaranteed in this life, right? So we're good here, for now. Saying my fingers and crossing my prayers for going forth. I'm seeing that also. Did you click the Submit button?

Semantic hairs? Seriously? I said it's not the dominant factor in my life, and it's not. It's a factor, of course, DUH!!! Back to work.

I do like the Columbia sides well enough, though, especially Animation, which has plenty of tunes that could be played in a different format and work just dandy (or is it dandily?).

Yeah, those RCA records pretty much suck. But they don't suck because of the Rhodes, they suck because they suck.

Any and every? This is the second, and it's still open. And the first is still open for all to view. Hopefully it's not a major inconvenience to go find it and look at it. Here, let me make it easy: Y'all just keep it between the lines and everything will be fine. And for the record - COVID-19 itself is NOT the "dominating factor" in my life right now. I'm observing all possible precautions and adjustments, and am still working a day job and having a family life and playing records and everything else. I process the information, make the necessary adjustments, and keep on keepin' on. It's the Jazz thing to do! i feel blessed - truly blessed - to have that option. For those who don't, thoughts and prayers, etc. Seriously. For those who do have that option but choose to react differently to that which they cannot control...can't help you there. Here, it's BAUOD (Business As Usual Only Different) unless and until otherwise impossible. I still have people depending on me, both personally and professionally, and THAT is still the dominating factor in my life right now. Babysitting a bulletin board of ostensibly disciplined, responsible adults is still on the list, but not always at the top of it, so sorry about that. Like all of you, I have opinions - very strong opinions - about what has already happened, what has not happened but should have, and what I fear is going to happen not just in the immediate next few weeks, but in the months ahead. Very strong opinions. But this board and this thread is not the place for that, and moderation will proceed accordingly, especially as it pertains to anybody who insists on rambling on about conspiracy theories and such. That ain't playing here. Now, back to work, the kind that pays, like, real money.

To the best of my knowledge, the totality of Lucky's GM work can be found on three LPs - Goodbye Yesterday!, I Offer You, and a side of Concert Friday The 13th Cook County Jail (of which I've never been convinced that Lucky's tracks were in fact recorded live there). Of course, this being sonny Lester Cartel material, I'd not at all be surprised to find out that alternate takes had been released under some weird album with some weird name somewhere. And yeah, Cedar sounds great on Rhodes. A lot of people did for as long as they felt like it.

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I have no way to actually ban a poster, and don't have the time to micro-scrub an entire thread. IF this thread shuts down, it will be the same as the last time - nothing will be deleted, and a new thread is certainly free to begin in its place. That's not punishment, that's trying (probably in vain...) to demonstrate a respect for the common rules of this forum - no political discussion - and also a common respect for the agreement that this COVID-19 thread was going to be limited to factual information and personal proven experience. There is no room here for anything that is not provable, especially speculations about the underlying "motives" of either the cause or the response of the COVID-19 situation. Save it for Facebook or some place like that.

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Hell if I know. but any Lee Dorsey compilation will be a worthy addition to your life, imo.

Those Lucky records just don't get enough love, imo. They are beautiful.

Is there a possible connection to this music and the music on Wayne's "rejected" Blue Note session?