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Goes great on the way to - or from - church!

The beer that made Mel Famey walk us.

I've done just that, and made it clear that I'm just curious. I'm not a lawyer (thankfully!) or an heir or a consumer advocate looking for a class action suit against MCA or anything. I'm just curious. So... Q: how do you make a "music fan" apoplectic? A: Tell them shit in the vault has been destroyed. Q2: how do you make a "music fan" get over it in a big hurry? A2: give 'em something from the "vaults", that proves it's still there!

McLean/Morgan/Mobley/Higgins, in any combination Same with Konitz/Marsh/Ind/Levitt Corea/Burton, whether or not you like it or not, they go together Parker/Drake So many more...

I figure that a guy from a company who responds to a thread regarding his/her product does so to engage the community, which means at least acknowledging questions. Or not. It's ok to to just pimp with the profile, so there we go about that. No interrogation intended, it seems like a pretty basic thing to ask. "Third degree" shit is reserved for Fresh sounds and all the other EuroMusiPorns, like who are you paying, how are you paying them, where you getting all this shit, what about the pictures you use, why are you so crooked and yet so legal? That's 3rd Degree. As far as Mr. Taylor popping in here, I guess I misread his intent. As far as Mosaic not participating here...why the hell would they? The got the whole damn street team on board here already!

I don't know if anybody has questions about needle drops as it pertains to this set. That's kinda ill-informed actually, because it was ALL on a record of some sort as it began life. If there ain't a "needle drop" in the mix at some point, there ain't no CD, and very unlikely no LP of this material. Duh. Nor is the idea of a tape transfer a big deal for me. 16" 33 1/3 transcription discs, hell yeah you're going to transfer those to tape at some point, at least if you got any sense. Now, what is a fair question is what are you using for this set and why. Are those OG transcription discs still available, and if so, were you able to go back to them and do your own work? And if they're no longer available, what tape source did you use? Or what digital transfer did you use. Those are all legitimate enough questions that are fair to ask and the only bad answer is a dishonest or obfuscatory one. But none of that matters to me, not really. What I would like to know is simple - what source was used for the Decca material? Why is this relevant? For musical reasons, none, not really. But a few weeks ago, people were OUTRAGED about the MCA warehouse fire and all the culture that had been disregarded and all this and all that, and no matter how little of that outrage was really sincere on a detail-level rather than emo-outburst, the point remains, yeah, shit got lost that some of us would rather not have been lost. I would think that the Nat/Eddie Cole Decca material was housed in that MCA warehouse, that would be where it should logically belong (and if somebody pulled it out of there and took care of it, so much the better). So now the question is - what did that warehouse have, of this specific material - before the fire, and what does it now have after the fire. And what did Resonance have to work with? Dubs of individual 78s? LP master tapes? DATs? Purely digital files? This is not a hard question. And it's not got one whit to do with "needle drops". It's got everything, though, to do with what we and those after use, can look forward to in terms of source material. Resonance can't control that (but they can control their messaging...), but really - MCA wants to act like nothing happened. Well, something happened. And it pertains to this product. Either "best available sources" has a different meaning after the fire than it did before, or it doesn't. Which is it? I'd like an answer.

I have infinitely more confidence in Resonance's ethics than I do Fresh Sounds'.

If you right click on a photo/image, you can view it's properties. Copy them and paste that into a Google search and proceed accordingly. No need to save the image first, unless you want to. https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZisF2xt_10E6WOGkWdsK3u3m_1ZuvjKcOcFYwBP_1bvdFz7_1u8Klhe8euTD5mhJggKQYADv2NhjSQnUK4xixElcIlFdNlnFb9deS92myU01wlDSMtZCVYEOkHAW3qf5PuzXQacMRz7EibKfBwm67jPRAnudgjX-G_1QhzxcCLQcxnpPrdkVBq4IIuHPzbYG2x0MSCYtlwcrF3ISf2SbalwOisSgJSsF5bqP9JBD5W0q8wxrmg_1DMn-mpsfHmaGwwse1hLLj1_1mc-Vf7oOtOCHcufemd8VkCPaDNGql1HC-1ET6YigwrdpaCH0zzYrK7war0TbRGhVerZ5YjJVuWB0oiXNF2uURVStQ&btnG=Search%20by%20image&hl=en Then there's this guy: https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZivSeWMTv-F3SGTjjPIjBt6mspv-qFn820d_1P_1f6j9MRibrhTfbpSJDmPOPDq1HZJQb5BhlTPmkrKmqRa31WryhqTClcsNH6XX7UxgcJgSVoT9SUXvMVYCn2SFLx9U3pNsW1sSsMLg9_1oYzZ6q4CjPRTJjYshi2AYBlwll_1hzcIHrDnqiYAbMND49VIUVB-ylvlpeClAdAElyFQpWEzJYn-Rm6B7HeAgrwPtsvOTHkBm2xFXFVjgTTH4LZDv-wLN8Rf0ylw8G1lRPEn8Uy4JZVbO9gMyI6tcnKro0UzTfdUPTWs84Xlp1uZqNsun1iBO3j8jD-_1qu3-jCGuS9VMrxPjwQvsQ9g&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMqfOoisvjAhVXj54KHc3GAMEQ9Q8ILCgA

Helluva ride. RIP

Thank you. I will keep an eye open for them. Bartok (and Beethoven) quartets are a (very) slowly unfolding project of mine, and new names are always welcome.

This is at once accurate and not accurate...it was an amazingly broad look at a relatively narrow spectrum of global culture...the comedians, oh my god the comedians...and the acrobats/jugglers/etc...you don't see that shit today (for better and/or worse)...it was one of the last links to the concept of vaudeville, a true variety show, you show up at a theater and you get get an evening's worth of entertainment by a variety of acts doing a variety of things. You can't make that kind of show now for the general market, because that type of general market no longer exists, just like with the old AM Top 40, Sinatra, Hendix, Johnny Cash, and Aretha all together, totally absent any hipster irony and/or etc. But yes, this segment was more or less done under duress, The Jazz & People's Movement, they got Sullivan's org to play ball because they didn't want his show to be disrupted like some other shows already had been disrupted, I think Merv griffin was one of them, the guys would just show up at a taping and start going for it right there, shut that shit down and make their demands. Now THAT'S something I'd like to see footage of!

which quartet were you looking for, if you don't mind me asking?

I concur with this interpretation, but will also add that I have every confidence that they are indeed using the best currently available sources. I have no reason to think otherwise. so let me ask it this way - what are the best currently available sources for the Decca material?

Same!

RIP

I think they're both high.

It's been released to the wild without the consent of the owners, so I'll say that "art" has been served, the etiquette/social contract of consensual commerce, not so much. Some days you when, sometimes you lose. Score's the same either way, the variable is what team you're on and/or rooting for, if you have one. Either way, we all like our souvenirs. Bottom line - it's there if you want to go to where it is. Proceed accordingly and drive your own bus.

Pretty solid guess.

But it all stemmed from a disk of some sort or other!

damn

Well, yeah, tape. And everything here stems from a disk of some sort or other, and at some point has been transferred (either to analog tape or to digital) from an original disk source. I mean, yeah, no shit Sherlock. Who knew? But the Decca stuff...let's assume that the metal masters were gone before the fire. Just lost or trashed or rusted or pocketed by Jerry Valburn or god knows what. So you - Decca/MCA - got tape transfers dating back a while, most likely pretty good ones. Did they get lost in the fire or not? If they survived, excellent. And if not, just say so, tell us what did, what did you use for this set, and then pimp it out like hey, we're doing this right and nobody's ever going to do it more right, because this is all that's left to work with now. We got what was left and nailed it for posterity. Now sit down, STFU, and say "thank you". Or is this one of those industry politics things where everybody's sworn not to talk about it except people who are threatening to sue, and you know, Resonance ain't gonna last forever and at some point people might need to ask for a gig at MCA, right? And I find no fault with that, except...just tell the truth, all of the truth. This set might not be simply for collector geeks, it might be for true posterity, ya' know, like reference for the rest of time.