Teasing the Korean

Does Warner still have Elektra and Asylum?

I have lost track of all the corporate mergers. Are Universal and Sony/BMG the only ones left?

If you want the core albums, definitely get the expanded editions. They contain mono and stereo, and also contain most of the oddball tracks that found their way onto Kronikles and Great Lost Kinks Album. I would start with Village Green, Face to Face and Something Else, and then work backward and forwards as you see fit.

Thanks all for these replies! I am familiar with many of the composers that have been mentioned, and, of course, others are completely unknown to me. Lots to explore.

And by "modern," I do not mean "contemporary." I love the orchestral music of Debussy and Ravel. This music was my gateway into classical music as a teen, because the harmonies and chord voicings were similar to those used in a lot of the jazz I liked. I love modernist "primitive" works along the lines of Le Sacre, Night of the Mayas, Scythian, etc. And I know the major serial composers. I have lots of Bartok. Villa Lobos is hit or miss for me. And I am very into modernist film composers such as Alex North (who studied with Revueltas), Jerry Goldsmith, Leonard Rosenman, and Jerry Fielding. I am looking for music with lots of orchestral color, and bold or lush harmonies. Looking for 20th (and perhaps 21st) century stuff, Debussy/Ravel and later. I realize that this this a pretty broad category I'm describing. What are some gems, not the obvious ones , that I may have missed?

I listen to La Mer frequently in Summer, and since this thread has started, I can't stop!

Not to change the subject, but did Debussy write that much orchestral music? I keep coming across the same 5 or 6 works. That said, if he'd written nothing other than La Mer, I would be satisfied.

I have this recording, and I agree it is very good, but I don't think the cello passage we've been discussing is executed as well as it is on many of the others.

A good friend of mine is a music librarian. She indicates that the main revisions were subtle, and mainly concerned a brass fanfare someplace. But, that percussion change could have occurred also, I suppose.

Debussy revised La Mer in 1909, and apparently the revisions are subtle. (Trying to find more detail.) So this may provide a clue.

Fritz Reiner does the second tympani hit. Paul Paray only does the first one, unless the second was so quiet it is buried. For whatever that is worth.

Yes, that is the passage I am discussing. I think it comes down to performance, dynamics, and miking. The balance on the Inghelbrecht is close to what I hear on the Ormandy. Inghelbrecht takes that part pretty fast, in comparison to other versions I've heard.

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La Mer is an absolute favorite of mine. My Dad had it on LP - forget which version - and as a teenager it was the first classical LP I bought. Being into jazz, the impressionists were the perfect gateway into classical. I have several recordings, most on LP, a few on CD. Most of the latter are at work right now so I can't compare. I did quickly listen to Ormandy, and that passage comes in significantly earlier than 5:20. I do hear the pizzicato bass hit after that cello passage starts, but it is hard to tell what the tympani is doing, if anything, with those low basses. i have not looked at the score. If the tympani is playing quietly, perhaps it is just an issue of miking and balance in different recordings. Incidentally, that cello passage, with the open harmonies, is for me one of the test passages when comparing different performances. I have heard several recordings with somewhat ragged playing during that passage, along with some tuning/pitch issues.

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Thanks for posting. His remarks on The Black Dahlia were interesting, because I had interpreted the music very much as he intended. For example, the 3 "death chords" that haunt her throughout the album. I had also interpreted that first loud chord as the murder, and that the rest is a flashback, as he had intended.

I like Plas Johnson and Strings. Imagine if Charlie Parker had done an album with Les Baxter, although the Chico O'Farrill sides come close. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YXX3RZ5uoTw

Thanks. I just picked up the two-disc version and have not had a chance to spin it yet. For some reason, it is fairly pricey on Amazon. Has it gone out of print already? The way those two descriptions are phrased, I guess there is some ambiguity as to whether it was remixed a second time, or just remastered for the latest edition.

Paul McCartney in 1964, for one...

Can anyone tell me if the mixing/mastering on the two-disc Legacy edition - the one with both Ah Um and Dynasty - is different from the mastering on the previous single-disc Legacy edition, and if so, how the two compare?

I will check it out. The Black Dahlia is the only thing I know about him.

The Black Dahlia is one of the greatest crime jazz albums ever, easily on a par with the best 1950s/early 60s crime jazz. How sad. 58 is awfully young. RIP.

How does the sound on the Blue Note disc compare to that on the Chronological CD? I ask because a few tracks on the latter sound kind of rough in places, not that it's a big deal.

I noticed this also. My interpretation was that Don did not go back to NY to conceive this commercial, so his out-of-tune chanting reinforces the idea that he was in no position whatsoever to teach the world to sing.

It is/was an amazing show, possibly my favorite ever, for many reasons.