Teasing the Korean

Yeah, that tune is on one of the albums I have. I did an online search of Buddy Rich albums from roughly 1970 on, and could not find several of the tunes from the 1980 gig set list on any albums. Maybe I need to look harder, or maybe I need to look pre-1970 (such as the Pacific Jazz album I mentioned).

Glad I missed it!

What on earth is that woman wearing? She looks like the female Ed Grimley!

Here is a 1969 video performance of Buddy Rich's Big Band doing the West Side Story medley. It may or may not be the same arrangement. It runs significantly longer than the version on the Pacific Jazz album, probably because Buddy takes a long drum solo here. Anyone recognize the guys in the band? Did any become famous after they got fired?

I'll have to listen to it on that LP I mentioned. I'm guessing it was a showstopper, as these things go.

As a follow-up, I went to the seldom-accessed Buddy Rich section of my LP accumulation, and I am kind of amazed at the number of his albums that I have amassed, probably each for a dollar or less. This seems to cover the period from roughly late-1960s to mid/late-1970s. Labels include Pacific Jazz, RCA, and Groove Merchant. Anyway, I see that on the Pacific Jazz Swingin' New Big Band LP, which I apparently liberated from the Stereo Jack's dollar bin, based on the sticker, Buddy does "Basically Blues" and the "West Side Story Medley." I don't see any of the other tunes that he played in 1980 on my LPs. Who knows if the arrangements varied over the decades, or if they stayed the same.

Not counting things like seeing garage bands play in junior high gymnasiums, the first "real" concert I saw - jazz or otherwise - was Buddy Rich at Dunedin High School in January, 1980. I went with my parents. This was the set list, according to an online source: Joy Spring When Johnny Comes Marching Home Best Coast (Buddy Rich) 'Round Midnight Grand Concourse (Buddy Rich) Birdland Good News (Buddy Rich) Basically Blues (Buddy Rich) Collage (Buddy Rich) West Side Story Medley I distinctly remember "Basically Blues," as our high school stage band played this arrangement. I also remember thinking that the piano player who played the opening improvised solo in that tune played it so much better than I. I also remember that I hated "Birdland" as much then as I do now. My parents said hi to Buddy outside of the tour bus after the show, being that they had worked with him back in the day. He was polite and pretended to remember them. I'm tempted to see if Buddy recorded these arrangements at around the same time and then recreating the set list for myself, less out of an inherent interest in Buddy Rich, but more as a way of reliving my first jazz concert. I previously wrote in another thread that George Russell & Max Roach at the University of South Florida was my first "real" jazz concert, but I realize that this concert was about a year later than the Buddy Rich concert.

Not particularly good, and I'm one who watches a lot of European films from this period.

I've seen the film, for what that's worth.

Thanks. I'm just questioning whether it meets the criteria of the thread. I'm not sure about its impact outside of the jazz world. The only time it has come up in film music conversations over the years are when I've mentioned it. This is anecdotal, of course.

Any time I've tried to find the CD, it is out of print. Is it available now? Also, in my experience, the soundtrack is not widely discussed in film music circles. Finally, is there an edition with cover art other than the image posted previously?

The album hasn't stayed in print continually enough to be very well-known. The "Yo-Yo" track is well known because it was on some comps. It is definitely the money cut.

No idea, but there are many examples like that. Why are there still so many sealed copies - with the 49 cents sticker intact - of Alex North's The Shoes of the Fisherman? Maybe they were bad at predicting the success of films.

Tangentially related to this topic is common soundtrack albums for forgotten films, vs. rare soundtrack albums for celebrated films. Using my beloved Kenyon Hopkins as an example, his soundtrack album for the forgotten Mr. Buddwing is very easy to find, while his soundtrack album for The Hustler, probably the most famous film he scored, is not.

Pat Williams - The Streets of San Francisco 2-CD set from La-La Land.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/music-labels-sue-internet-archive-over-digitized-record-collection-2023-08-12/?fbclid=IwAR0ERNu8MrbJ4BPjjUrlfWhZQQEepKcCBjd07_ssa7aH5Qx4yjYIBx-RwcM

I have his Tales of Manhattan album, which is a classic. I also have a CD collecting a bunch of his bebop 78s, with unfortunate cover art that suggests the music was taken from Edison cylinders.

What is this "streaming" thing of which you speak?

Does JALC ever perform classic albums by big bands/jazz orchestras from the original charts?

I struggle to imagine who the audience is for a record like this. Hot 5/Hot 7 completists? Wynton completists? People not into jazz who see Wynton on a PBS pledge drive?

I LOVE that film! I can't recall the music, though!

Yes, and I would say that Jerry Goldsmith may be the best example of an A-list composer, in every sense of the term, who scored more turkeys than classics. The most enduring film he scored is probably Chinatown, followed by Seconds and Planet of the Apes. But he provided amazing scores for some real dogs, such as The Swarm.

I think that because popular culture has become so fragmented into different subcultures, questions such as that asked by the OP are likely to elicit very different responses, depending on whom you talk to.

Both of the Who titles were albums first, films later. If we are using these as a barometer, we could include Sgt. Pepper. 🤣

Shaft and Trouble Man, for starters. I would add that Willie Hutch's scores for The Mack and Foxy Brown have had a long shelf life, primarily because of DJ culture. Ditto for Roy Ayers' score to Coffy. and the J.J. Johnson/Bobby Womack score to Across 110th Street. I would argue that Mancini's score to Breakfast at Tiffany's has had more longevity than the film, which is dated and problematic, primarily because of the insensitive and offensive casting of George Peppard as the male lead. Times were different then.