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"Row Your Boat" is an excellent example of a 6/8. 6/8s are usually brisk like that. The one-two, one-two thing that I mentioned above is perfect for marches, as it becomes left-right, left-right, ... There is a similar difference between 4/4 and 2/2. 2/2s are usually brisk, too, and are used a lot for marches and so-called "incidental music", such as "The Land of Chocolate" music on The Simpsons. "Colonel Bogey" is a 2/2 march. 2/2s, also known as "cut time" and sometimes denoted by a C with a vertical line through it, show up in jazz and dance music. Miles used 2/2 a lot in the 50s, with "All of You" being a typical example. He got that idea from Ahmad Jamal. I sometimes lead the songs in our Church services. I remember that one song was written as 4/4, but it was really a 2/2 and I had to conduct it that way. They are not the same.

You often hear that the flute is the quickest instrument, and it certainly is very fast, as its keys are small and light and don't have to move far. But I think the clarinet is a contender, for the same reason. Maybe we should be asking "who's the fastest player?" A lot of classical violinists are stunningly fast.

Brad, it's been pretty well covered already, but 6/8 is a thing unto itself. It has a definite feel of its own, and isn't the same as 3/4. A 6/8 is mainly felt as a one two, one two, thing, where the one and the two each cover three beats. Lots of marches are in that time signature. (I don't know the names of the well-known marches, so I can't give you an example - sorry!)

I think the Umlaut is missing, Lon. I haven't played these for a long time, except the Three Sounds one, which gets my vote both for being very good, and for making available previously unissued material. But I recall really enjoying the Morgan CD. Really, they're all very good.

I was wondering about that, too. Does the board software block the Umlaut in topic titles?

I know of one OJC that isn't available on CD: "The Red Garland Trio" (that's the LP title, as well as the group's name). So I guess that one is digital-free. It is also the only album of Red's trio with Paul and Art that I have not yet obtained. If anyone would kindly post a discography of the recordings of that unit, I'd be very grateful, as I want to listen to their work in order. Their output has been scattered over many albums, and the Prestige discography book is too expensive for me. A box set would be a great idea, of course. I always enjoy Red, and he holds my attention throughout each track. Nothing experimental, just very good. As it happens, I am more than happy with the sound on the 16 bit OJC CDs. The only thing I don't like is the thin, trebly way that Rudy recorded Paul Chambers during 1956. He must have changed mikes in early 1957, as there is a big difference on the recordings from then on.

Perhaps this has been released twice before, then. My copy is a 1993 version and the phrase "rare groove" is nowhere to be seen. Not that it matters, of course, and I'm glad that the new CD makes it not rare.

A non trivial problem is the fact that the picture of Gerry Mulligan on the new Mosaic box is a mirror image. I hate that, as it shows the horn the wrong way around. This has happened on a lot of Impulse digipacks, too. You frequently see sax players playing their instrument with the right hand at the top end. Uggh!

Very good point, Aric. I assume that most mono session reels still exist, and may rot away without being used again, the audiophile LPs aside (which most of us will never hear, to be honest). I'm thinking of the sessions where separate mono and stereo tapes were made simultaneously, as with Riverside and Rudy Van Gelder. My first ever Blue Note LPs were three that I bought: "Ready For Freddie", "Flight To Jordan" and "Little Johnny C". All were mono, though I had a stereo player. BN LPs were hard to come by, for me, and I was glad to be able to grab whatever I could, whether mono or stereo. The sound on that Hubbard LP just about leapt off the vinyl at you as they raced off to an exciting start on the first track; Art Davis's bass was particularly prominent in the mix and it sounded very exciting alongside McCoy and Elvin.

I got curious and dug out the old U.S. CD. My remarks above are way off and do not do this session justice. This is another example of an album arriving and not being listened to properly - probably because several other things arrived at the same time - and then getting set aside. Many of you know all about that, I'm sure. Anyway, THIS time, I found a very enjoyable album, with a great vibe throughout; good, tasty compositions; very nice arranging, and fine solos. It's the kind of record that you want to hear again when it's over. After the comments about the use of an LP, I listened, and yes, there is the occasional audible scratch, but the LP they used was in NM condition, and it's not a problem for me. The sound on the old CD (engineer not mentioned) is terrific as far as I'm concerned, and I won't be getting the new CD. There's plenty of bass and treble, and the presence is fine. But, obviously, as the old CD is out of print, I'm glad that the album has been reissued. It deserves to be available. Duke Pearson is tops with me. With James Spaulding present, the album has moments that remind me of Bobby Hutcherson's "Patterns" (that ethereal quality), and "After The Rain" is a gem in the manner of Pearson's other tune "Say Your Mine" (on the "Phantom" album and in the Mosaic Select set). There's even a bass solo by Ron Carter on one track! It must be at least the third Carter solo that I've heard.

... plus, there are still some excellent sessions that you can only get by finding a used LP. Both eBay and gemm.com are good for used LPs. I must admit, though, that I transfer my LPs to CDr for convenience when playing them, and, I can't tell the difference in sound. Musicmatch does a superb job with analog to digital.

He is outstanding! I have never heard him sound bad on any session. As well as the fine albums mentioned so far, don't forget the Savoy albums. I have pretty well all, and they are superb, too. They are not as easy to find as the others. Where is the thread about Fantasy being bought out? As soon as I heard that, I thought the same as you, Brownie: "Uh, oh, the constant availabilty of the Prestige, Riverside and other material may soon come to an end." We have relied on this for years, and bought BN and other CDs instead, but we may have to scramble to get those albums that "I can always pick up later ..."

Someone made a couple of bogus charges to one of my VISA accounts last year. The bank was very good about it, and repaid the funds to my account. They also changed the VISA number, and this brought the problem to an end. But really, we are never going to be immune to such problems. Someone also assumed my eBay identity, and took over the email address that I used with eBay. Fortunately, I didn't use that email address for anything else. I never got that email address back (it was a Hotmail address). eBay was very nice about the ID theft, and reinstated me, though it took a long time to find their helpline. They have a real-time talk room where they quiz you until satisfied that you really are you. Here's a question. How can you REALLY prove who you are? My son recently wanted to open a bank account. The bank said that they would have to see his passport first. So we applied for a passport. We had to go to the bank to have the photo witnessed!! The lady who witnessed it was the same one who would not open the bank account, and she signed that she had known my son for at least 5 years, whereas she had never seen him before. She signed the photo as a favor for me, as she has seen me in the bank for years. Taking this further, how could my son prove who he is? We have a birth certificate, but it has no picture. My wife is dead, and hardly anyone around here knows who we really are. We could be anybody! Think about that for awhile. I'm glad that Jesus, my Saviour, says "I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine." (John 10:14) Otherwise, I could end up totally unidentified.

This is hard, as there are so many excellent ones. I think I'll go for "In A Silent Way" (not because Tony M has just said so, though no disrespect intended, Tony). It just happens to be one that I've played more than any other, and it still sounds fresh, after over 30 years - I had the LP when it first came out. What a shock it was to hear the "original" version of "Shhh, Peaceful" in the box set!

Movies and Mel Gibsons aside, "Christ died for our sins" (I Corinthians 15:3) "The blood of Jesus Christ ... cleanseth us from all sin." (I John 1:7) "Without shedding of blood is no remission." (Hebrews 9:22) (That is, remission of sins.) "God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." (Romans 5:8) Jesus, who is God in a body, came to earth, lived a totally sinless life for about 33 years, and allowed himself to be offered as the only acceptable sacrifice for the sins of all mankind. (By the way, Jesus did NOT break the law of Moses. His sinlessness is in many Bible verses, but I Peter 2:21-22 will suffice, which includes the words "Who did no sin".) "There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; who gave himself a ransom for all." (I Timothy 2:5-6) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have not yet accepted Jesus' payment for your sins, all you have to do is repent and believe the gospel, that is, come to God admitting that you are a lost sinner, and ask him to save you because of what Jesus has already done for you. "The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23) "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved." (Acts 16:31) Salvation is a free gift from God, without works or religion of any kind. Furthermore, there is NO other way to heaven. (See John 14:6) There is no need for any other way. One way to heaven is enough, and it's available to you, and all others, right now. The offer expires when you die. As you don't know when that will occur, it would be very unwise to hesitate for one moment longer before accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour. I hope you will. By the way, the Jews are not to be blamed for Jesus' death. The whole human race was lost when Adam sinned, and Jesus died for all humans to win them back. The New Testament says that there is no difference between the Jew and Gentile as far as the need to be saved (= born again) goes. However, the Jews are still God's chosen nation, and the Bible warns that anyone who dares to persecute them is going to get it from God.

The TOCJ is a significant upgrade on the Conn version, and I highly recommend it.

I say, Old Bean, that's dwedfully unkind!

Here is the link, and fascinating it is. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?View...&sort=3&rows=50 Also, what a professional presentation of each item - a pleasure to read. But bidding on these is way out of my league, and I sure don't have time to listen to 66 Commodore LPs! That's a lot of LP!

Those Commodores should be in great demand. That's a body of material which should be constantly available. The stuff is part of the National heritage and public organizations should step in and make it available to anyone who wants to hear it. Sad it is that such pieces of American history are so badly neglected.

You did a fine job, Garth. It is very kind of you to type out all that information.

As Weizen said, most existing JRVGs have only the tracks that were on the LPs, so the number of tracks is not usually an issue, making the sound comparison the main thing - unless one strongly dislikes the mini LP covers. Those JRVGs that do have bonus tracks are sonically identical to their domestic counterparts, so there's no need to spend the extra on the Japanese versions. This topic has been throughly discussed over the years. My take on it is that the TOCJs ("Blue Note Works", strictly speaking) are the definitive BN reissues, period. I like the sound on all that I've heard, and you get a good-size facsimile of the LP back cover - I really love those. The sound on the JRVGs has been well described as a "crap shoot". There are quite a few that I like, but there are some with "AM radio" sound that need quite a bass boost. Those can usually be fixed up by twiddling the tone controls, unlike a lot of "you-know-who's" stuff. There are none that I actually hate. There is another important point. The TOCJs of albums that were originally issued on 1500 and 4000 series LPs are derived from LP masters, rather than the original session reels. The JRVGs (and RVGs) are all of more recent origin, and are taken directly from the session tapes (where these still exist, and most of them do). So, if there is by now any deterioration on the tapes, this will be heard on the JRVG, but not on its TOCJ counterpart. Examples include "Dippin'" (Hank Mobley) and "The Horace Silver Trio" (which features Horace Silver, I think). So, although I never vote on these threads, my vote goes for TOCJ rather than Kerry.

Did King Jazz issue all of the selections, or just a sample? This material deserves to be permanently available. Too bad that Fantasy does not own it .

I am very fond of all the participants on that session, but somehow this album has never really grabbed me. Do any of you guys count it as a favorite? I haven't played the older CD in awhile, but I don't recall the sound being all that bad on it. I never even noticed that it was not made directly from tape until someone pointed it out. There is an excellent version of the title track on Cal Tjader's "Hip Vibrations" LP, by the way. For me, its arrangement is even better than the original one.

You'll have to find an LP of it (try gemm.com), but "Hip Vibrations" is a classic. It's more of a straight-ahead jazz album than most of Cal's other albums. There are arrangements by Benny Golson, and the star-studded cast includes Herbie Hancock, Jerome Richardson, Mel Lewis, Richard Davis and Ron Carter. There's plenty of solo space for the sidemen, as well as for Cal. I've played it more times than I can count, and it still sounds fresh. It even boasts liner notes by Christiern! This is not to disagree with the other recommendations. I like all the Verves that I've heard. (By the way, "Several Shades of Jade" is another good'un, and the CD includes an extra album.)

I saw that on eBay, too! You can't miss it, as the dude has it on display on the main jazz CD page. May I also say $1200, wow! Absolutely nuts, considering that many of us could easily get a burn from a friend. Basie is tops, but $1200 for 8 (was it?) CDs! When I saw the item, someone had already bid about $400, which, I think, is also ridiculous. Also, I suppose the CDs will be old 16 bit ones, with sound not up to today's standards. Anyway, we enjoy freedom of trade, and a guy can sell anything for as much as he wants.