Guy Berger

I blame it all on Francis Davis's excessive lurking habits. Guy

I wonder, if Shaq was playing at 100% instead of 50-60%, whether we'd even be talking about this thing going to game 6. Anyway, the Pistons caught a really lucky break with Wade's injury -- that might be enough for them to sneak into the finals. I figure this thing is going to 7. Guy

Well Moose, you can relax because "Spanish Key", "Sanctuary" and "Miles Runs the Voodoo Down" are devoid of trickery and hence "real jazz". Unlike phony jazz performances like "Blue Train" (I believe there's a splice here!!!), "Ah-Leu-Cha" (1955 Miles Davis recording -- spliced in the middle of Mr. Davis's solo), and "Agitation" (1965 -- drum solo and main tune recorded separately). Guy

Out of curiosity, are end-of-track fadeouts (obviously studio trickery, and present on many pre-1970 jazz sessions) legit?

During the regular season, the Pistons held opponents to 89.5 ppg During the regular season, the Spurs held opponents to 88.4 ppg ← There you have it. The Pistons would have locked the Suns down with that stifling defense. ← ??? The Spurs have an even more stifling defense than the Pistons (playing much tougher opponents than the Pistons) and still gave up 15-16 ppg more against the Suns than normal. Why would the Pistons be different? Guy

During the regular season, the Pistons held opponents to 89.5 ppg During the regular season, the Spurs held opponents to 88.4 ppg

For the month of JUNE all CDs are overpriced, instead of being extremely overpriced. Guy

Non sequitur. To convince me that the Pistons could beat the Suns, you'd have to argue that (1) The Pistons, unlike the Spurs, could hold the Suns to under 100 ppg or (2) The Pistons could suddenly become an offensive juggernaut that could outscore the Suns at their own game. Which of these do you think is realistic? Guy

The Euro's fall is good for Europe, though -- it makes European exporters more competitive. It could help yank Germany and the other stagnant European economies out of their economic slump. Guy

No, that was 104 ppg against an elite defensive team (the Spurs) during the playoffs. You'd have to assume that either the Pistons would be much more effective than the Spurs against the Suns' offense, or that the Pistons would suddenly become an offensive juggernaut. Guy

But let's not exaggerate how stymied the Suns' offense was -- it's relative to their usual production. They still averaged 104 ppg in this series. Detroit was something like 6-12 (33% winning percentage) this season when their opponent scored 100 pts. Guy

Hey dude, they're still the 2nd best team in the NBA. Neither Miami nor Detroit could beat them in a 7 game series. Guy ← I do not agree. Either the Pistons or the Heat would kill the Suns. They do not play defense and they have no solution for teams that play defense against them. They would be lucky to win one game against either team. ← They handily beat the Grizzlies, a defense-oriented team (one that many people predicted would give the Suns headaches). The Heat and the Pistons are better than the Grizzlies, not nearly as good as the Spurs. Hence I think the Suns would probably beat either team. Guy

The Grizzlies were known as a good defensive team -- 6th best in the NBA in defensive efficiency. The Suns ran all over them. The Spurs are unusual because they're a good team at the Suns' type of game. There aren't many other teams in the NBA that can do that -- probably none. I think all 3 of these teams teams would consistently make the conference finals if not the finals if they were in the east. (The Kings, not anymore, but 2 or 3 years ago.) The western conference has been much, much more challenging in the past five or six years, and at their best they've consistently gotten more wins than the #2 teams in the east (and occasionally the #1) while facing much tougher opposition. ???? This eastern conference had 3 (if you include the Pacers with Artest), maybe 4 teams (Bulls borderline) that could have made the playoffs in the western conference. The Bulls lost to the Suns by an average of 19 points/game this season. Guy

Hey dude, they're still the 2nd best team in the NBA. Neither Miami nor Detroit could beat them in a 7 game series. Guy

1. Haven't you noticed all the "Teo edits" being restored (Miles, Monk, Mingus) - and which Miles albums are you including in "classics". No edits, no Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. As far as "classics", Bitches Brew, In a Silent Way and the Gil/Miles collaborations come to mind, though edits pop up on other Columbia albums here and there. Guy

It's been said a bunch of times already, but the sound is fine as long as you're not too sensitive to high-end buzz. Guy

Maybe FD isn't a lurker here, but rather posting under an alias. Clem has been trying to throw us off the whole time! Guy

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Very nice suggestions. I think the first few Weather Report albums (Weather Report, Live in Tokyo, I Sing the Body Electric, Sweetnighter, Mysterious Traveller) are also essential, as are various Miles Davis recordings from 1969-1975. Some of the best jazz recorded during this period. Guy

Very interesting... thanks for posting that. Guy

Thanks for resurrecting this thread, Moose -- I missed it the 1st time around. I haven't bought a Cuneiform CD in at least 3 or 4 years but it was nice to see them on there. Guy

Is this the same penthouse in Lincoln Center where they've had smaller J@LC gigs for the last few years? Two years ago I caught two sets of the Herbie Nichols Project up there for $10 (student rush). Hard to beat the view, though the atmosphere was a little pretentious. Guy

Anybody who's read the liner notes to All My Relations is probably familiar with this story, but here it is:

Why is this thread blank? Guy

I'd really like to have a complete Charles Lloyd + Chico Hamilton on Columbia select or big box. Guy