Scott Dolan

I do, too. And the Dolphins.

I'd need a musician to help here, but wasn't Monk approximating quarter tones or something like that? I recall another musician talking about that, but I'm not familiar with the technical aspects of it.

Kevin, when did Microsoft implement that security measure in consumer operating systems? I know they had them in commercial/server releases, but through Windows XP I never had any issues switching hard drives to other towers, and they ran far longer than 30 days. This is a new one on me.

About the worst you'll have to deal with is potentially updating drivers on the new machine. That should take very little time, if even necessary at all. Or just vulture the power supply and be done with it.

Here is a free version. https://www.wsj.com/articles/cassettes-are-making-a-comeback-but-there-s-a-kink-nobody-makes-tape-1509723435 Pretty ridiculous, BTW.

Save your money. If ever a team could lose on a bye, it would be the 2017 Browns.

Fusion.

But the problem with that is that it's still The Grateful Dead. It's not like you're going to hear July '78 and think, "I have no idea who this is!" Absolutely! And I've never tried to say otherwise.

To be honest, I don't hear any advancement, only variations. Great album. Really great album. But I hear no new territory being explored. And once more, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Hahaha... I've nothing more to say than thank you!

Exactly. It’s using minutia to differentiate things which in a larger context aren’t much different at all. Hence: it’s still fucking Merlot. The thing that blows me away is that anyone would take offense to this, or see it as a form of degredation. Just because an artist has found their own voice doesn’t mean they’ve transcended the genre they call home. My apologies, but anyone that can listen to First Mediatations and Godspelized and proclaim, “huge difference” is just bullshitting themselves.

Ah, wine snob theory. While you enjoy all of your intense tasting notes, digging deeply into your well-honed sense of smell and taste, and waxing poetically on the limitlessness of the universe you’ve discovered with just one sip of this wine... ...I can still sit back from the table and say, “yeah, I taste all of that, too. But it’s still fucking Merlot.” While you and Clifford want to carry on about the complexity/depth/difference, there are still two things neither of you are getting. 1. I hear those differences, too. 2. At the end of the day, it’s still fucking Merlot. UNLESS! You’re talking hybrids. Like Mary Halvorsen’s blend of European Improvisation with a more traditional Free Jazz, and even Garage Rock approach. BUT! David S. Ware plays no hybridized forms. None.

The irony being that nearly 20 years ago you and I were having this same argument on the long lost Freejazz.org message board, with you claiming Free Jazz was passé because of what the Euro Free Improv guys were doing, with me defending good ol’ traditional Free Jazz. This conversation has now taken a turn for the hilarious!

That’s the point. It already IS the old thing...

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No genre of music that has been around for multiple decades has much, if any, creative ground left to break which will truly separate the contemporary artist from those who came before, IMO. I'm not saying the concept of the new thing is dead, just that we shouldn't kid ourselves that said new thing is going to be some kind of evolutionary leap. Fusion was, for example, because it was a hybrid. Then again, Fusion is also older than I am.

Yeah, the term "genius" becomes more watered down as this thread progresses. I'm expecting to see Phineas Newborn Jr. mentioned any minute now.

The problem with Free Jazz is that it quickly reached an end point. It simply could not go any further. Yes, you can have singular artists with their own voice and twist on the sub genre, but at the end of the day they're really doing little more than playing variations on the theme. It's like a Monk solo. Sure, THAT bar sounds completely different than THIS bar, but they're both just variations on the theme. Not something completely different at all.

But you can agree that David S. Ware doesn't sound anything like 60's Free Jazz?

C'mon, every artists is "singular" unless they're a cover band.

Then why didn’t you mention him amongst your geniuses of Jazz? Again, I think that you’re not really reading what I’m saying. You claim there is a huge difference. I’m simply saying no there isn’t a huge difference. If there were, this wouldn’t be a conversation. We’re talking variation of green tea.

As did David S. Ware!

I find it incredibly interesting that you didn't mention any comtemporary artists, especially considering the recent discussion we had about Ware.

Bush41 has owned up to groping women, as well.

I'm rather ashamed to admit that I didn't realize he was still alive... A legendary figure, to be sure.