Dan Gould

John Abbey at JC is a legitimate source? I think we need to wait until 1 pm. Matthew, Its the same Coltrane, just a different pic. I couldn't find the cropped photo I had used before. I was just discussing Roger's HoF credentials when he left Boston, presumably before he juiced. 192 wins before, 160 or so since. 3 Cy Young awards, 4 after. He clearly went from good pitcher on the decline (what was it? 40-39 over the last four years in Boston?) to legend in the making. The one problem is that its very tough to discriminate between stats padded by steroids for a pitcher vs those for a hitter. With distance estimates of home runs, you can make a rough calculation of how added muscle mass can result in X number of "juiced" homers. But obviously some of those were going to go out anyway. How the heck do you decide what part of Clemens accomplishments can be attributed to steroids? And in terms of the Hall, is it fair to assume that without steroids, he still would have ended up with, say, 280 wins? I'd be inclined to agree with that, which makes him a likely Hall of Famer, but not the first ballot HoF that he appeared to be. And that may be what happens: enough voters will refuse to vote him in for a period of time, but ultimately he will get in, just as he probably would have without the aid of modern chemistry.

I'm pretty sure that one is a re-packaged Storyville title that I got a couple of years ago. Very fine, mostly standards and ballads, the sound was exceptional, too. I actually transferred the audio part to CDR. Actually, including the one Jim is curious about, there are three Lockjaw DVDs available on the CD Universe site. As all were recorded in Copenhagen, I suspect that there is much duplication (as well as "triplication") among the three. CD Universe provides discographical data on only one of the titles. Can anyone point to which one is the best, i.e., the most "complete" to get? The three on the site are: http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?...amp;style=movie http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=6070908 http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?...amp;style=movie Marty, The first link is the DVD that I have. Second link has the same setlist as the first. No idea about the third.

Its also being reported that "several" high-profile Yankees will be named also. That leaves me hoping that at least a few Red Sox players, past or present, will be identified as well, because otherwise there will be Yankee fans pointing to the fact that Mitchell never resigned from the Board of Directors of the Red Sox and say that it resulted in a biased report. Personally I think its bullshit but Selig and Mitchell foolishly allowed him to keep his position when the appearance of impartiality is crucial to the acceptance of the report. As for Roger, there were certainly more than a few rumors, and he did go from the pudgy "twilight of his career" to a remarkable resurgence (and a huge gain in his physique). The question now is, how does it effect his Hall of Fame candidacy, since its pretty clear he's through playing? According to the report, he received steroids from the trainer while he was a Yankee and "before" - was that before period when he was with Toronto or with Boston? It kind of makes sense that it was Toronto - Duquette's comments stung, Roger knew he had to improve his fitness to get back on top, steroids were all over the game, its hardly surprising if he started using at that point.

I think John L has hit the nail on the head.

The MLB rumors site reports that the Tejada deal is a terrible one for Houston, that they gave up virtually all of their top prospects for someone who is already declining. It shows how much Tejada has declined, I think a year or two ago the Orioles had a deal for some solid major league talent but their idiot owner vetoed the move. Now they get a bunch of OK youngsters, who knows if they pan out or not? Really both of those franchises are being run into the ground. They deserve to do a deal like this together. I like the Fukodome signing, I'm pretty sure he will easily beat out Jacque Jones' numbers. Not the critical improvement the Cubs need but given the ownership situation, a pretty good addition. As for Rowand, its a pathetic indictment of the Giants that they would throw that much money at someone who is, at best, a number six hitter, yet he becomes their cleanup guy. Good defense, and offense that is grossly inflated by the tiny park he played in. This deal is neck and neck with the Torri Hunter deal for most mindless move of the offseason. The only good thing is that since he is only 30 now, the Giants aren't on the hook for as much of his decline phase as the Angels are on the hook for Hunter's.

I can't confirm myself, but it looks like this Ace compilation would be something close to what you are looking for:

Its been suggested that the Yankees backed off Santana because of payroll concerns. When you consider that their payroll is around 200 million right now and since they already pay the tax at the highest rate, 22 million a year to Santana actually equals 30.8 million. Its the same for the Sox, but with a 150 million dollar payroll, it doesn't seem quite as bad. Close, but not quite as bad. My guess is that the Herald has it right - they are sticking to their guns in terms of Lester OR Ellsbury, not both, and they feel good about any outcome: The Twins give in and they get the best lefty in the league without giving up the farm; The Yankees blink and add Kennedy, and the Yanks will put an inferior player in CF and lose two of their best pitching prospects; Santana doesn't go anywhere and the Sox keep their prospects, which very well may be the best long-term outcome. As for Masterson, I've heard different things, but it seems that at least the Twins see him as a superior setup man, perhaps a closer. He's very big - 6'7" and 250 - with a hard fastball/sinker combo. I know that his former coach, Tony Gwynn thinks he'll succeed as a starter but who knows?

It doesn't surprise me but I think that the writers are just looking for something to report. I am kind of surprised that they can't sweeten the deal with a fourth prospect to get it done, but maybe there's a chance of a really terrific Christmas present in the next two weeks.

If the vote favors vinyl, you need to insist on a pre-payment or you may end up with many more than you'll sell. I agree with Chuck - you should cost this out completely and let people know what the unit price will be before you base any decision on this poll.

I'm pretty sure that one is a re-packaged Storyville title that I got a couple of years ago. Very fine, mostly standards and ballads, the sound was exceptional, too. I actually transferred the audio part to CDR.

I've used winrar forever and I don't even get a pop-up guilt box.

I was the recipient of about four PMs during the board contretemps last week, yet just today did I actually receive email notification of those long received messages. Perhaps something for a newly appointed Admin person to look into?

If you are not interested in complete sets, you can pick and choose what Mobley, Donaldson or Parlan releases you do want through both domestic and Japanese reissue programs. Mosaic serves a different part of the market.

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If Mosaic's box set designs constitutes "ugly packaging" I really have to wonder what you think of 32 Jazz releases. Ugly? Give me a break. Beautiful photography, distinctive packaging. To criticize it is mind-boggling. As for box sets vs individual albums, you are simply ignoring the purpose for which Mosaic was founded. Furthermore, why would any label allow its albums to be licensed so that Mosaic can compete with their own reissue programs? If Mosaic took the approach you prefer, why would BN have any sort of reissue program? Sorry but your complaints are stupefying.

Dan Gould will send you a Christmas card for that MG He also joined the board on my birthday, and loves Stylings of Silver just as I do .... Were we separated at birth?

Oh HELL yeah!

I don't think it equates jazz with anything. It says what we already knew: 20-30 somethings couldn't give two shits about jazz, just as you couldn't pay me enough to party while musical crap like that is playing.

After all the arguments about should there/shouldn't there be, I'd like to request that Jim make the Classical Forum optional, as no one should be forced to see that forum if they don't wish to be exposed to it.

Getting screwed?

Won't the Pats forfeit that pick if they win the Super Bowl?

I'm about ready to start up the air conditioner today. ATL only has two seasons: summer and that small period of about 2 months when it is not summer. /In my day we had four seasons whether wanted to or not! Tell me about it. About 80 here and the AC is running. I went to a Christmas party last night and it was about 70 degrees outside, but dammit, it's the holiday season so people were wearing their big christmas sweaters. I won't miss the long frigid winters of the midwest, but I wouldn't mind a little cool weather. Maybe in the MF 50s at least? It's going to take me some time to get used to this place. don't worry, Paul, chilly weather like that is coming. There will be plenty of days with downright cold overnight temps and chilly daytime highs. The beauty of it though is that the really cold cold snaps will last three or four, maybe five days max. Then you'll be back to beautiful highs near 70 and occasional warm days. All bets are off, however, if global warming has made that much of a difference in the ten years since I left Tallahassee.

Obvious Man has a question: Have the Dolphins officially quit?