Dan Gould

Just got home from seeing the folks, rejoined the 21st Century ... to come upon this thread first as I wade through the threads I've missed. Very sorry to hear of this, Mark, but like others, I think you'll discover you are better off in the long run. So I'll leave you with this thought: Aren't moose like cats - they always land on their feet? I think the subspecies Jazzmoose will prove that its true.

Cool! Maybe we can talk about those Baby Face 45s. Pretty much share Chuck's view. You don't even want to drink with yourself?

FFA stole my post. Happy birthday, anyway, Aloc!

Perhaps its because reading and posting on the board is free (aside from the occasional crisis-averting donation) while attending a conference involves considerable expense for anyone who doesn't live close by. And what, aside from seeing your pretty face, is the difference between discussing these topics in person and discussing them on the board? One more observation: who exactly is going to pay Wayne Shorter to play for us? I don't think a $35 conference fee is going to cover it. My guess is that the reality is that those who would be interested would want to meet up someplace and see, face to face, the people they've been interacting with online for, in some cases, going on 8 or ten years. We don't need conference rooms and panel discussions or vendor tables. We need a cash bar and a stage for any musicians who want to jam. Located in a major city, we can plan vinyl and/or CD safaris. We want to hang with fellow O-people. If I could afford it, I'd love to sit down and drink a beer while Larry, Chuck, Chris or Jim regale us with stories. I don't have a great deal of interest in sitting in an audience while they sit on a dais and talk at me.

One more thread idea before I get my butt in gear to finish my travel preparations ... since we're talking about Santa, anyone care to recall a time that Santa really disappointed them? When you had that certain something you were dying for and it wasn't under the tree ... or it was there, but broke or was broken as soon as you started playing with it? In memory of the "recent" classic film, A Christmas Story, anyone have their own equivalent of the Red Ryder B.B. Gun? My one great disappointment was when I was dying for one of those electric race car tracks - a neighbor had one and I desperately wanted one, too - only the one Mom bought didn't work, and when we brought it back to exchange, they were sold out (anyone else remember Consumers Distributing? I think that was the name - discounted merchandise you ordered out of the catalog at the showroom (only the cheap jewelry was on display).) That was where we got the toy, and they didn't have one to replace it - so I got a Chuck Connors Shooting Gallery toy. You put empty cans on top of this box, the shotgun shot a red light and when it hit the "eye" just right, a plastic piece popped up and knocked the can off, just like it had been shot. That was fun for about two minutes, but I never did get the electric race car set.

I'll be heading to my folk's home in Connecticut early Sunday morning, where I will enter an Internet-less Stone Age environment (I'm lucky they got cable TV recently). I don't know how I'll manage, but I won't be around to wish the 0-Board Happy Holidays. So, Merry Christmas, I hope Santa is generous in ways big and small. See you in 2008.

Obviously she's yelling "will you f-ing hurry up? I got things to do ...."

Man, they really nailed those vacant eyes. So life-like ... so real.

Not that its important but Eddie Higgins attended Northwestern.

You remind me of a scrooge boss I once had. He told me that he and his wife didn't believe in giving gifts to each other - if they need something, they buy it. Otherwise - forget it. But they did decorate, and had gift-wrapped boxes they would put under the tree. If you and your wife don't celebrate Christmas - or don't celebrate it with gift-giving - then raise your child accordingly.

I'm not sure when I learned the truth, probably about the same age as Paul. No one had to spill the beans; I was a brat who wanted to know what he was getting for Christmas and I found Mom's hiding place for gifts. Some were wrapped, some weren't, but the ones that were wrapped and said "To Danny From Santa" were clearly not from Santa at all, unless he was subcontracting to UPS.

This one is also another "all-muted" session. Pretty nice, if also pretty mellow, with Benny Green, Rufus Reid, Carl Allen, and on several tracks, Kenny Garrett in support.

A really wild "Air Emergency" is on right now - the story of a suicidal FedEx flight engineer, who hitched a ride on a flight he wasn't scheduled for, with the intention of attacking the flight crew and dying in the resulting crash. He even twice turned the circuit breaker off for the cockpit flight recorder - hoping that if the sounds of the struggle aren't recorded, investigators won't know what he did (he did it twice because the engineer noticed it both times and flipped it back on). The attack was so brutal its remarkable that the flight crew survived.

And now, the guy that everyone said was "unfairly" identified because one person claimed that he told him he had used steroids, Brian Roberts, 'fessed up, too. And the admission says he used them once, the report said that he had stated that he used them "once or twice". Aggie is right, the people who deny deny deny will get their just rewards in the end. But less than a week after it was released, the Mitchell Report is looking more and more accurate. Its hardly complete, and there may be an unfair bias toward the Mets and Yankees because of the location of the two main sources, but its clear that the sources were honest. Clemens needs to come clean but then again he's been a congenital liar for a long time so why change now?

Sad news - he was someone who had such a positive impact on the music - it leaves me wondering whatever happened to the Left Bank tapes that one of his companies had the rights.

Good porn title. Exactly what I was going to say, but my PC antenna suppressed the post... I had my PC antenna surgically removed, it was an outpatient procedure performed by Dr. Allen Lowe.

I still say it will take a cruel act of God for this Miami team to salvage the franchise pride and win next week. Speaking of which - I am flying on JetBlue to LaGuardia while that game is going on - does anyone know if their seat-back TVs have Fox/CBS/NBC channels? I'd sure like to enjoy a blowout while I listen to tunes.

No, I was genuinely surprised when you stated that you enjoy juiced baseball more than the previous kind and were completely indifferent to any long term impact the juice might have.

I find one aspect of Andy Pettitte's confession somewhat amusing: He says that he used HGH to 'recover' from surgery, not to get an unfair advantage. If that is so, why did he go to his trainer to get it? Why not consult with the surgeon who performed the surgery or his regular physician? The obvious reason is that neither one of them would have said "yes, HGH will help you recover faster, here's a prescription." The NY tabs are all over Roger the Dodger about how bad Pettitte's confirmation of McNamee's story is for Roger's denials. Pretty funny too is the fact that both Andy and Roger use the Hendrickson's as their agents - and one decides to confess, the other puts out a belligerant statement, and both are "fully supported" by their flacks. Does anyone think this hurts the relationship between the two? Pettitte had to know that any confession that confirms the trainer's statements would look bad for Roger.

I think this is Jim's call but MG makes a good suggestion. I've no doubt that we'd raise the same amount a year from now, if Jim were to take $1900 to cover 2008 and the remainder was applied to the previous CDs debts, or to the next CDs release.

Maybe I'd like to know if we reached the goal of paying for two years in advance. Jesus Christ.

In other words, create a whole different game than baseball? Or at least, an extremely different version of it? I was being facetious. But my point stands -- if we are going to get extremely exercised about the health risks faced by professional baseball players, then there are plenty of things that could be changed in the sport that will have a far more significant impact on this "problem" than cracking down on steroids. More seriously, we have video footage of the sport going back to 19xx -- we can establish that as the upper bound on acceptable physical exertion for baseball players and enforce it as necessary. That wouldn't create a "whole different game" and would reassure those in this thread who are agitated about the health risks faced by professional baseball players. Once we have taken those steps we could consider reducing less significant health risks like those caused by steroids. I'd still be glad to see any concrete medical evidence (published in top journals) that establishes the health consequences from using steroids. Guy I can't believe I'm dealing with this kind of foolishness. Number one - we're talking about the health consequences of using substances that are illegal without proper medical authorization. That is completely different from the foolishness you are spouting about ways to reduce the health risks associated with playing the game as it was intended. Number two - I don't have time to go find multiple medical journal articles about the effects of steroids. I just googled "medical impact of steroid use" and one of the first hits was this article. While the topic is women's use of steroids, what is the first sentence of the abstract? NUMEROUS STUDIES HAVE DOCUMENTED THE PSYCHIATRIC AND PHYSIOLOGICAL EFFECTS. That's good enough for me. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Now that there's been some time for checks to arrive, can we get an update on the amount that was ultimately raised?

Well that's the final nail in the Rocket's coffin. Proof that the trainer spoke the truth - what else do we need to believe the trainer is telling the truth when he says he injected Clemens? Too bad Pettitte's got some integrity and 'fessed up almost immediately. Clemens on the other hand, having the same gargantuan ego that will be Barry Lamar's downfall, didn't think about coming clean and being contrite, he had his lawyer hack put out a statement with words like "libelous" and "troubled man". Dan Duquette was right - Roger was in the twilight of his career - until he discovered the joys of modern chemistry.

Actually they didn't forgive the strike very quickly at all, it took McGuire and Sosa's steroid-aided "chase" to generate fan excitement again, four years later. There's no doubt that everyone in baseball is equally to blame for the situation. No one wanted to look too closely at the perverse results that were seen during the steroids era - like athletes in their late 30s and 40s performing better than they ever had previously, or a singles hitter like Sosa turning into Babe Ruth. Nevertheless, I think fans can absolutely reject the accomplishments that were previously celebrated - if they looked at these stars and logically suspected they were juicing but couldn't fairly draw conclusions without proof. That proof is here, and I think everyone is entitled to reject Clemens, Bonds, McGuire, the whole lot of them. They cheated and just because it made baseball "more exciting" (which I think is a total crock of shit), it doesn't change that fact.