Dan Gould

I think we can see who the bastard red-haired stepchildren of jazz are. (just watch, now someone's gonna vote for fusion and neobop just because ...

Simon, you've said a lot of stuff here, without a whit of evidence whatsoever, especially for your assertions about the "floating voters". "He's radicalised the people who were unsure about him before." WHO are these people? Your friends who didn't hate him quite as much as you do, but now they hate him passionately? This is ridiculous. I know plenty of people who found Wynton engaging in that series and have begun to investigate jazz because in between the talking heads, these people heard snatches of wonderful music that intrigued them. The answer to the question of why jazz has declined again is this: When Wynton got all the attention, jazz became "cool" again, as it periodically does. The fact that people drifted back away has nothing to do with Wynton, the intrinsic value of his music, or the supposed "impact" of his beliefs about jazz. It has everything to do with fads and the passing thereof.

Yeah, what the heck was that? Is it you telling your story about your arrival in New York and your encounter with the idiot cabbie?

Rooster, you got it by yourself. "Progressive '60s" is the universe of music influenced by Free, or the AG, everything demonstrably "beyond" bop and hardbop. In fact, I conceived it specifically based on your known interests, and I suspected that the Post-60s category would be your second choice.

I'm guessing the "classic BN era" will win by a landslide. BTW, if "progressive 60s isn't clear, I mean, what was demonstrably POST-bop, and POST-hardbop.

Sorry, but isn't this analagous to saying to Ernie Banks, "You're known as Mr. Cub. Considering that the Cubs still haven't gotten to the World Series, and blew it this year in heartbreaking fashion, isn't it time you step aside? Heck, why don't you just die already? You're obviously everything that's wrong with the Cubs." (I realize you'll miss the baseball reference, Simon, but others here know what I am saying). And I do not at all understand this comment: First of all, Wynton's "credibility" was damaged beyond repair among those who already disagree about post-60s jazz. So who are these presumed newbies who think Wynton is an idiot because Jazz didn't deal very well with the last forty years of the music? Wynton's credibility is exactly what it was pre-Jazz: For those who don't find anything worthwhile in free and fusion, he's fighting the good fight. For those who do, or are pushing the music into different areas, he's the anti-Christ. So what? Nothing has changed because of Jazz. And finally, considering the popularity of the Conn threads and the two different RVG threads, I'd suggest that jazz of the "classical" period is very much a preoccupation of this board, with far less centrality of the post-60s period. In fact, I think its time for a poll.

My copy of Coldwater Flat was signed by Gene Harris hisself, which is quite cool. I also have a personalized autograph from Eddie Higgins, and best of all, I now have Waiting for the Boogaloo Sisters autographed by all four musicians, and I think I'm the only one because Ron was slow to get to the autograph booth after the set in Clearwater and so I was the only guy to ask him to sign. B)

Speaking of Little, he still doesn't get it, and while I don't exactly expect him to be offered the position anyway, he's making noise about not really wanting it anyway: Little unsure he wants job Sox manager put off by team's hesitation By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff, 10/23/2003 MIAMI -- Faced with the increasing likelihood that he will be fired as Red Sox manager, Grady Little said yesterday that he's not sure he wants to manage the Red Sox next season. "I'm prepared for the likelihood . . . I'm not sure that I want to manage that team," Little said by phone from his home in North Carolina. "That's how I felt when I drove out of town. "If they don't want me, fine, they don't want me. If they want me to come back, then we'll talk and see if I want to come back up there. That's the way I feel about it." Little said he hasn't heard a word from Sox brass since returning home. "All I know is when I left there, there was some hesitation. That's all I need to know," he said. "If Grady Little is not there, he'll be somewhere. "Right now I'm disappointed that evidently some people are judging me on the results of one decision I made -- not the decision, but the results of the decision. Less than 24 hours before, those same people were hugging and kissing me. If that's the way they operate, I'm not sure I want to be part of it." If Little is fired, that may not play well in a clubhouse in which numerous players expressed their support for the embattled manager after last Thursday's devastating Game 7 loss to the New York Yankees in the American League Championship Series. "That's not my problem," he said. "Just add one more ghost to the list if I'm not there, because there are ghosts. That's certainly evident when you're a player in that uniform." Little was on the last year of a two-year deal he signed in March 2002. The Sox won 93 games in his first season, 95 this past season, when they also won the American League wild card, their first playoff appearance since 1999. The team holds one-year options on him for both the 2004 and 2005 seasons, but last March told Little they wanted to wait until the end of this season before deciding whether to exercise those options. Little, unwilling to go through another season of being a lame duck, almost certainly would not be amenable to just having the club exercise his option, which the Sox have until Oct. 31 to do. He wants the security of a multiyear deal. "The reason anyone wants to make changes is they feel that the team should have done better than it did," he said. Winning the wild card and advancing to the seventh game of what Yankee manager Joe Torre said was the greatest series in which he took part wasn't enough? "I'm not sure," Little said. "You've got to win the World Series in Boston before it's considered winning." Little again said if he had to do it over again, he would have left Pedro Martinez in to pitch the eighth inning of Game 7, when the Yankees rallied from a 5-2 deficit to tie the score off Martinez. "I know that wherever I go, I'll do the best I can," Little said. "I know what we did there. I'm sorry the results of one decision caused so much pain, and it sure helped sell a lot of papers. I feel bad for it. But gol'dang, I can't turn back the clock and make another decision, not knowing whether the results of that decision are good or not." Speculation has been rampant at the World Series about who the Sox might pursue if Little is let go, as expected. Dodger coach Glenn Hoffman, the former Red Sox shortstop who declined an invitation to interview before Little was hired, is a name that has surfaced here. Hoffman had briefly managed the Dodgers when Tom Lasorda was interim general manager there, and told associates that with the Sox GM situation unsettled at the time, he didn't want to go through that experience again. "Only time will tell," Little said, when asked how he thought the club would perform under a new man. "But if they think it's going to get better, they'd better watch out. I know how it was when I got there, and I know how it is when I'm leaving." Red Sox catcher Jason Varitek last weekend said there were a "billion things" that could have caused the Sox clubhouse to fall apart last season, and it was because of Little that it did not do so. "Most things people don't even know about," Little said. "Everyone knows the final results. We didn't win the World Series, so we lost. I'm only thankful that they're pointing the finger at me, and not at a player, because I can take it. I'm telling you that right now." Little was asked if Martinez spoke with him after the Game 7 loss. "He came and gave me a big hug and thanked me for the opportunity, just like a lot of other players did," Little said. Little said, "To tell you the truth, this ain't bothering me like it's bothering a lot of other people. I'll tell you right now, I did the best I could do, and I still think [his handling of Martinez] was right. Baseball people think that -- maybe not Red Sox fans -- but baseball people tell me over and over. "But in Boston, it's not just this one decision, or just one game. It's like this in May. People are talking about devastating losses, and it's the end of April or first of May. That's serious stuff. You don't play 162 games. You play 162 seasons a year. Every game is a season. That's why this doesn't affect me like it does a lot of people." Because Major League Baseball doesn't want the World Series upstaged, any announcement regarding Little's status probably won't come until after the Series. "If Grady Little is not back with the Red Sox, he'll be somewhere," Little said. "I'll be another ghost, fully capable of haunting."

Sad news. Wasn't he recently on that new show "Star Dates"?

Just saw this one in CNN's article about the comatose woman in Florida who's wish to die is being prevented by an over-reachng Jeb Bush: "Michael Schiavo, who already has one child with his long-time pregnant girlfriend, is his wife's legal guardian." I don't think the writer meant to imply that Schiavo's girlfriend has been pregnant a long time, but that they've been together a long time, and she is presently pregnant. There's gotta be a better way of saying it.

No deal! Nigella Lawson, and that's my final offer!

You do realize you're insane, right? OK, Hank Mobley, "My Sin" (from his debut LP as a leader), paired up with Product 19, an adult cereal for an adult tune.

He was pretty good in Game 1, but yet, its time for a Gould Household Tradition: TOTAL MEDIA BLACKOUT (except of course for Nelson's and Garcia's trial, conviction, and imprisonment )

Lots of pictures were taken, including one of me and the guys. But they stuck with tunes off the CD plus maybe a couple more, but none were identified as coming off of Ron's CD.

How about Philly Joe kicking the ass of his Dameronia band? Both LPs are highly recommended and someday maybe Uptown will manage to reissue them, as long rumored and hoped for.

Brad, what do you think of the Mance/Alexander? Some surprising tune choices like Got My Mojo Workng and Blueberry Hill, but I think the CD is superb overall. And Tony, I probably should have assumed that was what you meant, it just kind of bothered me the "your stuff was all vinyl" made me think others were making the same assumption. In fact, I was really surprised that at least one person and maybe more decided that the Jack Wilson was a vinyl source when it was a Japanese CD source, so I wanted to make clear just what was what.

Ah one, ah two, ah three ...

Yeah, Byrd definitely seems likely, since I am pretty sure by this time he'd done other dates with Coltrane for Prestige. But frankly, I wish I could go in the way back machine, make it KD who had the gig, and do whatever it took to make sure he made it!

Well, Jim, that was too bad with the phone number screw-up, but its cool that you got to meet Chick, Terri Lynn and Eric as well. Maybe when you reach that level of being headliners, you tend to avoid the crush of people who want to meet and greet. Celebrity's a bitch, and may you soon have it! I hate to admit it, but Mike had such an early start on Monday that we had to boogie after the Hazeltine-Alexander set so we couldn't stay for Herbie. Did he go all accoustic or did he have the big set of keyboards? And what did you guys think of Eric? Is Sangrey right? Looking forward to seeing the pics up here. B)

No, its Mack something or other .. Mack Daddy?

After hearing Jim Alfredson sing "I'm A Fool For You" at the Festival Saturday night, it is my devout hope that Organissimo's next project will allow it to qualify as a vocal/b-3 date.

Oh so true, and yet, after Pedro's rocky sixth and seventh, no one would have questioned it because of how well Timlin and Williamson had pitched. If they had come in and proceeded to blow it, I think the attitude would have been, "how appropriate, the bullpen had been crappy, then it performed tremendously, and now with the World Series at stake, it reverts to crappy form. That's the Red Sox-can't do it when its on the line." But seriously, I do not believe the "why didn't he keep Pedro in" second-guessing would have lasted long. I think everyone not in the Red Sox dugout felt that Pedro should be out and would have totally agreed with turning it over to Timlin (ONE HIT ALLOWED) and Willamson (ONE RUN ALLOWED). I do think the Fish can beat them-the Marlins play a great deal like the Angels of last year, small ball, run, steal bases, bunt, great defense ... the Marlins are definitely good enough to win. And God I hope they do, because the bloodletting in the Bronx will happen, just as if the Sox had done it themselves.

Not true, Tony. In fact, I was very surprised at the response to a couple of tracks, where CD sources were identified as being off an LP. For the record, #1, the Ike Isaacs-Jack Wilson CD was purchased from the Groove and is to my knowledge in print, or at least they got a hold of it less than a year ago. #2, Joe Williams-George Shearing was a VHS tape, available at CDUniverse: #3, the LD, is vinyl and has no known Japanese issue. #4, Red Holloway, is an inprint Highnote CD. #5, the flutes LP is definitely a rare one. #6, the Tadd Dameron tribute was just reissued, see this thread: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...?showtopic=4398 #7, Carmell Jones-very rare vinyl. #8, Houston Person, ditto, though I have seen it on ebay. #9, Teddy Edwards, in print on CD and DVD. #10, Eastern Rebellion, I'm pretty sure MusicMasters is out of business, but I am also pretty sure this could be found fairly easily. #11, Michael Cochrane/Wayne Shorter disc, in print Steeplechase CD, available from Stateside Distributors #12, Groove Holmes, definitely a rare vinyl album. #13, Japanese CD, I know that Brad got it from Mr. Tanno after the blindfold test. So, Tony, perhaps you meant that the tunes you enjoyed were all vinyl, but I'd like to reiterate that only five out of the 13 are definitely OOP vinyl albums that will take some tracking to find. And lastly, my opening post actually asks for purchases, on the hunt for, or requested burns of.

Tom, as I come down from the pain and anguish, I begin to understand and almost agree with your opinion of Little. I think he is the right guy for the clubhouse and over a 162 game season. In that regard, he is exactly like Dusty Baker-great to create a winning season, crappy on strategic decision-making. There is a fine column about this in today's Boston Globe-available at http://www.boston.com which argues effectively that no one should make a snap judgement on whether to retain Grady Little, and to think in terms of whether you can find someone who will bring both the season-long handling of a group of 25 men AND the strategic decision-making you need. And think about what his replacement will walk into, a situation where he can say to his new bosses, "OK-the old guy won 95 games, got the team to game seven of the LCS and lost in the 11th inning. If I do anything less, I'm a failure?" Its a good point, as well as the point of how well Grady handled Boston and the media and the expectations. There aren't a lot of managers who would do as well in that killer cauldron as Grady Little did. Nevertheless, he's a FUCKING MORON!! ARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!

Yes, Jim had a DAT off the board and was very pleased.