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70 years ago today... the Blitz was also going full-tilt. I cannot imagine living through that, let alone with the aplomb demonstrated by so many who were under fire.

When I was going to the Library of Congress on a regular basis, back in grad school, I saw various photos (color prints) from this collection on a regular basis. But I think this (Boston) is the 1st large exhibit of them outside of the LOC - which is great. (I even bought reproductions of several items from the collection, back in the 1980s...)

Was Elmer related to these folks, by any chance?

Well... I'd add the following (none of which I own; hard to find stuff, mostly) La Perfecta, (1962) El Sonido Nuevo: The New Soul Sound, 1966 (with Cal Tjader) and/or Bamboleato (also with Cal, 1967) Molasses (1967) Champagne (1968) Justicia (1969) Sumperimposition (1970) his live sets at Sing Sing (1972, 2 discs) and/or (maybe) Live at the University of Puerto Rico (1971) Lucumi, Macumba, Voodoo (1978)

Not sure myself - didn't he also record for Tico?

Bill - not to sound like I'm shilling, but www.descarga.com is likely your best source for reissue dates for the Fania catalogue (and much more). A lot of Fania titles were reissued a few years ago, but most all of them are o.p. now. However, there's another label that's going to be reissuing the entire Fania catalogue, or as much of it as they're able to. I forget the name, but it's small, run by salsa (etc.) fans. There's much more info. on the Descarga site. (Also, they're trying to do a better remastering job than was the case with the last batch of Fania reissues...)

Re. Tin Tin Deo - I'm still stumped, but thought it might be fun to throw out a guess... Arturo Sandoval, maybe? He does play piano, though I've never heard his "My Passion for the Piano" (or any of the other albums where he switches off, though I checked his discography and apparently there are a few). That said, I'm still thinking it's someone from the US, and wondering why the drummer isn't taking breaks and interacting more with the pianist.

The more I hear that version of Tin Tin Deo, the more I think Bill threw us a curve. Whoever it is has extraordinarily little interaction with the drummer, which makes it... kinda dull. The soloing - that gets samey, too. And i think the pianist tries to pull one too many tricks out of the hat to make it interesting. (Has the opposite effect.) Am very curious to find out who this is...

De nada - I hope I haven't hijacked the thread! (Also that the videos were helpful... I'm really not the best person to try and explain what was going on in the NYC salsa and Latin jazz scenes at that time.)

Eddie and Charlie Palmieri, playing a rumba, from 1981 - the song is Oye Lo Te Conviene. Vocalist is Ismael Quintana. Eddie Palmieri, some Latin soul - "Idle Hands," from his album Harlem River Drive (1970). Charlie is playing organ on this album - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akhVgotIlhk

Here's a 1974 vid of Ray and his band, performing "Ban Ban Quere." The user has it tagged as "salsa dura" (hard salsa), which seems about right to me... Vocals: Ruben Blades. Here's Joe Cuba's "Bang Bang" (1967) -

*** I misspoke: Chocolate Ice Cream is very much an NY-style tune, but an offshoot of what a lot of people now call "hard salsa" (salsa dura). If you listen to some of Eddie's earlier recordings, you'll see what I mean. Ray was very involved with making dance music (straight-ahead NY-style salsa) for a longer time than Eddie was, but... I think Ray's love of jazz always showed through. (Which isn't a very good explanation at all; maybe I can find some videos for you over on YouTube...) Eddie was working more in the "Latin soul" style (also bugalú - kind of a subset of Latin soul) when he made some of his most famous records in the late 60s-mid 70s. It's an NY thing - coming from the Puerto Rican community + all the other folks in the NY barrios at the time. You can hear a lot of that same sound in recordings by Joe Cuba. (One of my faves!) I guess one of the most simplistic ways to describe it is salsa (NY-style) crossed with soul. It was - AFAIK (which isn't very much!) - pretty influential... Eddie was an innovator for sure. I'm kind of a fan of Charlie Palmieri - Eddie's pianist brother; more so than Eddie per se. (Except for his very early stuff.) Which is probably why I didn't get this one, though I should have! I have to smile at my having called the tpt solo as either Ray Vega or Charlie Sepulveda, because *all* the younger guys have been heavily influenced by Chocolate Armenteros' playing. You know who could explain what I'm attempting to say far better than I can? tpt1, over on the AAJ board. He's been gigging with NY salsa bands for many years now; also playing Latin jazz when he gets the chance. Edited to add - classic early Eddie - La Perfecta - You might be able to get this one at www.descarga.com

WAY TO GO, NOJ!!!! THAT IS CORRECT!!! This is the one song that I thought that no one would identify. It is written by the Cuban trumpeter Alfredo "Chocolate" Armenteros, who plays the trumpet solo. Eddie Palmieri plays the piano solo. I first heard it on the recent Eddie Palmieri career retrospective anthology on Fania. The liner notes are interesting as they state that Eddie Palmieri would from time to time leave salsa music for the much less interesting genre of Latin jazz, before coming back to the real music, salsa. It is not said quite that bluntly, but almost. The notes state that within the Latin jazz genre, "Chocolate Ice Cream" is one of his best recordings. Noj, you have surprisingly wide tastes, rap, now this! A good friend of mine has connections with the Fania label, and he gave me a whole bunch of 'em so I was on a salsa/latin jazz kick for a bit. "Chocolate Ice Cream" is just sublime by my tastes, and has been in my Overall Favorites playlist for about a year. So good. I was useless at identifying any of the other tracks, so I read everyone's posts. I knew I'd heard #2 before, and I have this mountainous Sun Ra collection including the album this song is from that I haven't been able to spend all that much time with yet. Very enjoyable compilation, Hot Ptah. Thanks for putting it together. Noj - great, great move!!! I *should* have recognized it, or at least, I should have nailed chocolate's playing. (Guess I was right in saying it wasn't contemporary... but it doesn't have all the hallmarks of an NY tune - if you listen to Ray Barretto's from the same time period, for example, you'll hear something different.) I feel like this is "What's My Line?" or "To Tell the Truth." a terrific BFT so far, and a great panel.

Well, hey.. a shot in the dark, right? (The 2 wrong answers.) And i used the emusic.com search engine to pull up the correct answer on "Eronel," so I'm not sure that I really *did* earn that A+. (they've got 30-second clips over there, just like Amazon.com does.) McCandless seems to be on albums by everyone under the sun, which is one reason I chose his name. Hmm... back to cogitating. That pianist (tk. 13) is a poser! If I should happen to guess that one right, it'll be a randomly submitted name.

I believe the player on #9 is Ran Blake, from this album... and although I kind of agree with what jeffcrom says about the playing, there are things about it that I genuinely like. (thank you, gods of emusic.com!) Edited to add: is #3 Paul McCandless on oboe? #13 is bugging me... I think I do know the pianist, though this might not be a setting where I'd expect to hear them. Nice groove, and some very nice tpt soloing. It sounds like someone contemporary playing in a somewhat "retro" style - most "Latin jazz" artists today are working with much more complex material, not groove-based tunes like this one, except as a way to lighten up the mood after some really dense tracks. (Sort of; I don't think I'm explaining this very well.) So - is it Edward Simon playing with Terence Blanchard's band, by any chance?

Damn - Newton was my other guess, and I almost went with him! Who's the pianist?

Hah - I don't know! Ray Vega, maybe, or Charlie Sepulveda (on tpt, that is)? (this is totally off the top of my head; I still haven't heard the entire cut.) What about Prelude to a Kiss, or was that covered in earlier posts?

# 11 must be Lew Tabackin with Toshiko, although the comping seems a little restrained for her...actually, the ending sounds *very* typical (for both of them). I wonder if he was playing with a shakuhachi headjoint? (If not, wow... he's one of the very few people I know of who can get those bends and glisses from a Western transverse flute.) That version of Tin Tin Deo is gonna drive me bonkers until I figure it out - which should be "if" instead of until, really. Whoever it is ... well, they're a fine pianist, but I think they're not from the Latin jazz end of things. (Though again, I could be very, very wrong on that!) I can see why Mabern's name has been mentioned. Re. the Kirby track, that's lovely! A lot of his recordings used to be available on emusic.com, but unfortunately, there's some sort of licensing problem in the US. Damn!

Google Chrome, Firefox and Opera. If Firefox was as fast as Google Chrome, it would be first on my list. I love Firefox, but on my system it can be balky and very slow. (And I don't think it's because of the extensions I use, but maybe I should doublecheck that...)

I'm in - would prefer a download. Thanks!

Not me - btw, there's a Joyce and João Donato from last year that would be worth hunting down. (i believe it's on Biscoito Fino; don't have my own copy as yet.)

Many thanks for the recs! I've been looking to buy, but some of the units I've checked out (in person and on the net) ahve seemed pretty pricey...

Yunupingu is from Australia... just sayin'!

Thanks so much for the link! RA can be problematic on my system... I hear you on the copyright issues, which are (imo) just crazy. (Used to deal with them myself when I was doing streaming broadcasts.)

Nice clip, randy! (Sorry, no ideas on names...)