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The more that is coming out the more I'm thinking that everyone, Paterno included should go. They all knew that something very wrong was going on there and they didn't act in a manner that was intended to make it stop. They were more interested in preserving the image of the school and the folks running the athletic department. If I'm in the shoes of any of these people and I hear 'inappropriate' 'child' and 'Sandusky' in close proximity I CALL THE COPS! I also make damn sure that this guy doesn't even get to breathe the surrounding air of the college or any of its satellites. Nobody did any of that to their eternal shame. It's worse than that - by doing nothing, they all enabled Sandusky in his preying on kids. If you all knew how highly respected his Second Mile foundation is (the phony "charity" he used to troll) - and how high-profile they are in terms of their supposedly "helping" at-risk kids - this would snap into focus fast. It's a very wealthy "charity," and I doubt people are going to stop donating unless it is shut down. (Not so coincidentally, Sandusky and Second Mile have held sports camps on Penns State campuses - and recently.) Me, well... I want that stupid statue of Paterno toppled today! What really sickens me is that so little attention is being paid to the welfare of former and current victims. They must all be suffering, yet the attitude seems to be "Well, they'll get over it." Which is one of the reasons that both Spanier's and Paterno's true colors have been shown (with their unconditional public support for Curley et. al.). The board of trustees needs to fire some people now, but that's only the beginning...

Re. tk 3 - that heavy trombone sound is from NYC and surrounding area. I had a good guess as to who it was as soon as I heard it, but Noj (who is more up on this than I am) beat me to it, and rightly so!

Have you tried CD Universe? Also... check Half.com and Ebay. You might get a good deal that way. (I used to buy a lot of discs through Half.com sellers and found some pretty rare titles for very reasonable prices.) Edited to add: http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Chicago-South-Side-1923-1930-CD-Mar-2002-2-Discs-Fremeaux-Associes-/3507237#

Oh, I don't believe their PR and never have. But the juxtaposition of the squeaky-clean image (and I literally mean "image," not reality) with this is especially disturbing, imo. although I'm not really a football fan, my take is that Paterno should have gone at least 15 years ago, if not sooner. And... I have to wonder how much of a part Sandusky played in getting the team into the Big 10. It seems like that's one plausible (if sickening) reason that people looked the other way. Am not exactly sure if the State College PD would have handled things properly, supposing they had been contacted about one or more of the incidents described in the grand jury report. The thing is, there have to be more... people who are afraid to talk or, for whatever reason, literally are not able to speak up. (I have very strong opinions on the moneyed alums, too, but.) Edited to add: I can't help wondering about what's been going on with Penn State's women's basketball team, too, and just how much Renee Portland got away with (possibly) before she was fired. At any rate, recruitment etc. scandals are one thing, but Sandusky's offenses are another kind of thing entirely.

You can read the entire grand jury report on pennlive.com; there's also lots of coverage at centredaily.com (site for the local newspaper in State College). The phony "charity" that Sandusky set up has been heavily promoted throughout central PA for many years - there were/are fund drives and collection tins in restaurants and other public places. And now - to know that it was a front for him to troll for victims. This is sickening beyond words. The grad student whose eyewitness report was ignored for 10 years ... that is literally criminal, in many senses. Graham Spanier knew about this stuff and covered it up. (He makes a big deal out of his approachability; hosts a couple of TV and radio shows focused on public welfare and education that are pretty much geared to giving him a Mr. Wonderful image.) imo, he and all the athletic department staff who were in on it should be thrown in the slammer. For decades, Joe Paterno (and university PR) have presented a very clean-cut image of the team - kids have to attend classes, get good grades, etc. or they can't play. It really makes me angry to think that all the time, there was truly sordid stuff going on and nobody had the guts to blow the whistle on Sandusky and his cohorts, let alone do anything to help those kids!

Tk 11 - the only reason I was able to nail it was Howard levy's playing. As for the rest, well... win a few, lose a few!

Tk 11: That sounds like Howard Levy playing harp... My money is on this album. Tk 15: definitely sounds like the Hypnotic Brass Ensemble, but they don't normally work with a bassist. Hmm...

Am listening through to this and really enjoying the music, Ptah! A few thoughts - Tk 4: that sounds like a bluegrass fiddler - Darol Anger, maybe? Stuck on the guitarist... but by any chance, is this the title track from an album? tk 9: Sahib Shihab is (maybe) one of the soloists? (Just a wild guess). It's got a wonderful groove - instrumentation reminds me a lot of Birth of the Cool. (Is that "rechanneled [sp?] stereo," by any chance?) Tk 10: could this be the Hypnotic Brass with some guests? Or possibly the Youngblood Brass Band? (Ditto.) Tk 16: the instrumentation reminds me of Ralph Peterson's Fo'tet recordings from the late 80s-very early 90s. (Sigh... he's gone so mainstream since then.)

Amazon.com often has good prices on Fremeaux sets and individual discs... ditto for CD Universe. I think shopping around is a good idea, since there seems to be quite a bit of variance in the markup/list price(s). They offer some pretty amazing - and very hard to find - material from Brazil, Cuba and the French-speaking Caribbean.

I'm in - download preferred.

Low tech can be deceptive... for example, many W. African drums now use high-quality, non-stretch marine and/or rappelling [sp?] line for lacing and tuning. A lot of Africans have adopted this tech.

He's been doing some great work, but it's quite different than the records that you like, for the most part. See the opening post for some more info.

I get what you guys are saying (just bought it from emusic last evening), but... A.A. is right about the harmonies in Chico Buarque's songs. And I am a big fan of Guinga's work, though I wish A.A. had chosen at least one of his medium-tempo pieces. That said, if you know the "songs" (meaning: pieces originally debuted as such, not as instrumentals) this is going to be a very rewarding listen (imo). But you're right - it's quiet and reflective, which is (again, imo) a characteristic of both Buarque's and Guinga's work.

Really? http://musicabrasileira.org/antonioadolfo/aachorabaiao.html

MG was a pleasure to meet and entertain in my home. It was even fun to haul him around town a little on the back of my motorcycle. He's a brave man! I really think he's one of the finest music fans I've ever met and I hope he can return to this conversation soon. I miss him and his many contributions, too. Must have been a wonderful visit, j!

I envy your getting to work with Donal Fox - having both these guys in the same workshop must have been great. btw, I like Murray's Ballads for Bass Clarinet - though, like you, I feel that a lot of his work is a "miss." (Might be partly because he's made so many recordings.)

Funny thing; when I watched the vid on the other thread, I thought they sounded like a Brazilian vocal group! Here's one of Os Cariocas' versions of Samba de uma nota só (One-Note Samba) -

The thing about that poem is that Cheevy is an alcoholic... http://www.poemtree.com/poems/MiniverCheevy.htm I like the stanza about the Medici.

I've never viewed the DG blurbs as "reviews" - they're ad copywriting, basically. But this one's certainly full of clunkers!

Thanks so much for the links - very intriguing! Love your guitar!

You might want to check out Cama de Gato, from Rio. Unfortunately, their discs are pretty hard to find.

you can try Google Translate or Babelfish, which will mangle text to varying degrees, but you really don't need it for the list of his recordings. He was a member of the Portela samba school (in Rio) and seems to have made a bunch of samba recordings. http://www.dicionariompb.com.br/noite-ilustrada http://www.allbrazilianmusic.com/artistas/ver/noite-ilustrada

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noite_Ilustrada

My views on why "swarming" is a bad idea were stated much earlier in this thread. No offense, but I think I want to get off the bus right here... no sense rehashing things.

Ptah, I was responding to a post where conflict of interest in another review situation (on Goodreads.com) was discussed. That's all. and this, from Jsngry